Durant is the man
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Kevin Durant willingly wades into a heated NCAA football rivalry
By Kelly Dwyer
Kevin Durant(notes), albeit briefly, went to college at Texas. Texas is a football rival of the Oklahoma Sooners. Kevin Durant, since 2008, has played pro basketball in Oklahoma. And yet, Kevin Durant still enjoys rooting for the Texas Longhorns, and dismissing the Oklahoma Sooners. Especially on Twitter. Oklahoma residents, and some Sooner players, take issue with this.
And this is a … thing?
Apparently so. The Oklahoman's Darnell Mayberry recently delved into the iffy back and forthbetween Durant and Sooner fans, and comes down on Durant's side:
Durant has enjoyed jabbing the Sooners and their die-hard nation every chance he gets. He's added the phrase "Hook 'em Horns" to each autograph he's signed at OU football games. He's sat courtside at OU basketball games and flashed the two-finger Hook 'em Horns sign. He's even taken his needling to Twitter. On Saturday, Durant posted a simple but around these parts scathing message: "LSU > OU…"
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If you ask me, Sooners fans should be happy Durant doesn't embrace the school's sports. He shouldn't. Would you really want him to pretend to be something he's not? That's never been Durant's style in the first place. It'd be even worse if he genuinely accepted the Sooners.
Sooners defensive back Tony Jefferson, however, is far less charitable; tweeting this last weekend:
Chicago Bears fan that currently lives in Indianapolis Colts territory.
Fandom is fandom, and it shouldn't be tempered, dismissed, or overturned because of working conditions. The idea of community and territory has been just about shot to hell because of the presence of cable TV and the Internet -- witness LeBron James(notes) growing up a Yankees and Cowboys fan while living in Akron, Ohio -- but regional rivalries die hard. For Durant to take to this sort of (admittedly, silly) back and forth after just one year at Texas is kind of cool.
And, to echo Mayberry's thoughts, for him to stick to his horns, so to speak, is fantastic. This is a star in need of some edge, and in an era where tattoos can't even raise our ire, we'll take what we can get -- 140 characters at a time.
Hook 'em, KD.
By Kelly Dwyer
And this is a … thing?
Apparently so. The Oklahoman's Darnell Mayberry recently delved into the iffy back and forthbetween Durant and Sooner fans, and comes down on Durant's side:
Durant has enjoyed jabbing the Sooners and their die-hard nation every chance he gets. He's added the phrase "Hook 'em Horns" to each autograph he's signed at OU football games. He's sat courtside at OU basketball games and flashed the two-finger Hook 'em Horns sign. He's even taken his needling to Twitter. On Saturday, Durant posted a simple but around these parts scathing message: "LSU > OU…"
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If you ask me, Sooners fans should be happy Durant doesn't embrace the school's sports. He shouldn't. Would you really want him to pretend to be something he's not? That's never been Durant's style in the first place. It'd be even worse if he genuinely accepted the Sooners.
Sooners defensive back Tony Jefferson, however, is far less charitable; tweeting this last weekend:
Chicago Bears fan that currently lives in Indianapolis Colts territory.
Fandom is fandom, and it shouldn't be tempered, dismissed, or overturned because of working conditions. The idea of community and territory has been just about shot to hell because of the presence of cable TV and the Internet -- witness LeBron James(notes) growing up a Yankees and Cowboys fan while living in Akron, Ohio -- but regional rivalries die hard. For Durant to take to this sort of (admittedly, silly) back and forth after just one year at Texas is kind of cool.
And, to echo Mayberry's thoughts, for him to stick to his horns, so to speak, is fantastic. This is a star in need of some edge, and in an era where tattoos can't even raise our ire, we'll take what we can get -- 140 characters at a time.
Hook 'em, KD.
I don't really put much thought into where players of my favorite pro teams went to college. You get too much of a mixture that it's pointless to worry about. I know he's gotten into some twitter fights with sooner players, but I didn't realize that Oklahoma residents take exception to it.
I made a joke on this board that even in the NBA an Oklahoma team cannot win without someone from Texas. I mean I was kidding, I knew it wasn't true, even put a smiley face to know I was joking. But good Lord, those Okies took it personal.
Yeah it makes sense for those arguments to happen here. It's a college fan board and OU is our biggest rival. So there is going to be a healthy supply of punches back in forth. It's usually countered with a DKR being an okie and it doesn't stop until the thread is locked. As far as my mentality goes when talking about my pro team I don't care where a player went to college if he can play.
I think most professional football players do keep the rivalry alive. I've seen a few players from one school bet each other when the two rivals play. It's all good! I'm sure KD does it on purpose and I wouldn't be surprised if some OU fan didn't instigate some banter while on twitter.
This article is very old, but when it happened, I remember wondering why in the hell, would Tony Jefferson allow something so petty to hurt his feelings. Of course Durant is going to give the sooners hell, regardless of the state he plays professional basketball in. He has no ties to ou, through the Thunder. Some people are a special kind of stupid.
The great thing is that 99% of those Sooners are going to stay completely silent on this. The last thing they want is for KD to take his ball and go elsewhere.
bubba2023 and I take opposite approaches on this.
Rooting for your alma mater makes complete sense to me. You got your Bachelor's there, and that's a connection for life. An identity. Or if a team has a family member or friend on it, that makes complete sense to me, to root for that team.
Rooting for a pro team makes no sense to me, unless you have a personal connection somehow. Next season, you might move to another place. The star players might leave in FA. The owner might move the team. There's no reason for a lasting connection there. It's all arbitrary that you live near where a team plays, with that roster and those coaches, and that owner who might screw it all up.
So, yeah, I'm definitely interested in a pro team with Longhorns on it, and not so interested in ones without. I watch pro sports for the strategy, and to see excellent play, like Lionel Messi's ball-handling genius.
Before the Oilers left Houston, and before I became a Longhorn, I rooted for pro teams.
bubba2023 and I take opposite approaches on this.
Rooting for your alma mater makes complete sense to me. You got your Bachelor's there, and that's a connection for life. An identity. Or if a team has a family member or friend on it, that makes complete sense to me, to root for that team.
Rooting for a pro team makes no sense to me, unless you have a personal connection somehow. Next season, you might move to another place. The star players might leave in FA. The owner might move the team. There's no reason for a lasting connection there. It's all arbitrary that you live near where a team plays, with that roster and those coaches, and that owner who might screw it all up.
So, yeah, I'm definitely interested in a pro team with Longhorns on it, and not so interested in ones without. I watch pro sports for the strategy, and to see excellent play, like Lionel Messi's ball-handling genius.
Before the Oilers left Houston, and before I became a Longhorn, I rooted for pro teams.
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Çan KD and Russ lead OKC past the Warriors? Well they do have a chance, not a great one but a chance nonetheless. How can they do it?
The Thunder led the NBA in losses where they led at the end of the third quarter. I got frustrated watching them turn into the Philadelphia 76ers when it counted. They went 2/7 against the Cavs, Spurs and Warriors. To much depended on KD and Russ but what was most frustrating to me was watching them take the gas in the closing moments of a game. In February KD was having a great game against the Warriors but in a span of 30 seconds he went from hero to goat because he flat out choked. And their bench was mediocre.
The Spurs are everything on the court that OKC should be. They pass the ball around getting everyone involved, playing a disciplined game. Never was this more evident when the Spurs humiliated the Thunder in game one. Game 2 had a controversial to say the least ending. But they played good enough to win. They collapsed in the clutch in game three and just like i thought at the beginning the Spurs would take them. But the series took a dramatic change in game 4. Dion Waiters finally found his stroke and he came up huge in game five as well. In game 5 the Thunder finally proved they had the kind of poise necessary when the game is on the line in the closing seconds, Westbrook led the way. In Game 6 Andre Roberson of all people came up huge on the offensive end. In this series they actually outplayed the Spurs when it came to loose balls and things like that. The Spurs are the kings when it comes to this like this so maybe the Thunder are finally learning what it takes to be champions. They're finally passing the ball around. But mostly the most impressive thing about OKC is Steven Adams. A few days ago Charles Barkley said that SA was the best center of the teams still in the playoffs. He's definitely raised his game in the playoffs.
If there is one match up where OKC can have an advantage against Golden State it's at center. Andrew Bogut is nothing special, and his backup Festus Ezelli is nowhere near as big and strong as Adams. OKC's biggest strength is rebounding and Westbrook along with Adams is the reason why. If Adams he continues to play like this OKC has a chance. Maybe. Can their bench especially Enes Kanter and Waiters produce ..... maybe. Serge Ibaka has go to become a factor he's a better shot blocker than anyone on the Warriors can he do that against the them? But mostly it's up to KD and Russ. I've thought how could KD be playing so lousy in his contact year? Well there's still time for him to make it happen. Russ can drive me crazy with his to's and shot selection, he's also a mediocre the point shooter. But against the Spurs he came up huge from three point range. I've learned to live with his to's especially if he can produce like he did against the Spurs.
I still can't believe the Warriors. How did they turn into a 73/9 team in less than two years? I can't believe that they could hire a guy who's never coached a day in his life and all of a sudden he's made Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, and Pop look like chumps. Was Steph Curry a good player before Kerr showed up? Yes. Was he one of the top ten players in the NBA? No. But all of a sudden he's turned into an incredible shooter, especially from three point range. I mean all of a sudden it's Michael who? They've been mediocre for 40 years. To me the thing is the whole team can pass the ball and everyone on the team except Bogut can score.
GS is the ultimate finesse team the other champions are always physical. If OKC can impose their physical advantage over the Warriors ......
Probably not Warriors in 6
The Thunder led the NBA in losses where they led at the end of the third quarter. I got frustrated watching them turn into the Philadelphia 76ers when it counted. They went 2/7 against the Cavs, Spurs and Warriors. To much depended on KD and Russ but what was most frustrating to me was watching them take the gas in the closing moments of a game. In February KD was having a great game against the Warriors but in a span of 30 seconds he went from hero to goat because he flat out choked. And their bench was mediocre.
The Spurs are everything on the court that OKC should be. They pass the ball around getting everyone involved, playing a disciplined game. Never was this more evident when the Spurs humiliated the Thunder in game one. Game 2 had a controversial to say the least ending. But they played good enough to win. They collapsed in the clutch in game three and just like i thought at the beginning the Spurs would take them. But the series took a dramatic change in game 4. Dion Waiters finally found his stroke and he came up huge in game five as well. In game 5 the Thunder finally proved they had the kind of poise necessary when the game is on the line in the closing seconds, Westbrook led the way. In Game 6 Andre Roberson of all people came up huge on the offensive end. In this series they actually outplayed the Spurs when it came to loose balls and things like that. The Spurs are the kings when it comes to this like this so maybe the Thunder are finally learning what it takes to be champions. They're finally passing the ball around. But mostly the most impressive thing about OKC is Steven Adams. A few days ago Charles Barkley said that SA was the best center of the teams still in the playoffs. He's definitely raised his game in the playoffs.
If there is one match up where OKC can have an advantage against Golden State it's at center. Andrew Bogut is nothing special, and his backup Festus Ezelli is nowhere near as big and strong as Adams. OKC's biggest strength is rebounding and Westbrook along with Adams is the reason why. If Adams he continues to play like this OKC has a chance. Maybe. Can their bench especially Enes Kanter and Waiters produce ..... maybe. Serge Ibaka has go to become a factor he's a better shot blocker than anyone on the Warriors can he do that against the them? But mostly it's up to KD and Russ. I've thought how could KD be playing so lousy in his contact year? Well there's still time for him to make it happen. Russ can drive me crazy with his to's and shot selection, he's also a mediocre the point shooter. But against the Spurs he came up huge from three point range. I've learned to live with his to's especially if he can produce like he did against the Spurs.
I still can't believe the Warriors. How did they turn into a 73/9 team in less than two years? I can't believe that they could hire a guy who's never coached a day in his life and all of a sudden he's made Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, and Pop look like chumps. Was Steph Curry a good player before Kerr showed up? Yes. Was he one of the top ten players in the NBA? No. But all of a sudden he's turned into an incredible shooter, especially from three point range. I mean all of a sudden it's Michael who? They've been mediocre for 40 years. To me the thing is the whole team can pass the ball and everyone on the team except Bogut can score.
GS is the ultimate finesse team the other champions are always physical. If OKC can impose their physical advantage over the Warriors ......
Probably not Warriors in 6
outhereincali,
"I've thought how could KD be playing so lousy in his contact year?"
Here we go again, come on man. Lousy? He finished top 5 in MVP voting, averaged over 28 points a game, while shooting OVER 50%. He grabbed over 8 rebounds and 5 assist a game. I'm starting to think your basketball post, are for shock value.
"I've thought how could KD be playing so lousy in his contact year?"
Here we go again, come on man. Lousy? He finished top 5 in MVP voting, averaged over 28 points a game, while shooting OVER 50%. He grabbed over 8 rebounds and 5 assist a game. I'm starting to think your basketball post, are for shock value.
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I never post anything for shock value. I want to bring intelligent debate on topics just like you. If it wasn't for the trolls who try to hijack the threads we'd have that.
That said for all his stats KD has not been a 28 ppg 50% shooter when it mattered, not this year at least. He did come up huge in the Spurs series and I said that. But in the world of professional sports you either do it or you don't. I really want KD to win a trophy although he only played at Texas for one year he's still the greatest bb player in school history so it's only right he win at least one. In the wield of the NBA they pay you more than 15 mil for a reason. If I'm hard on KD it's because I want to see him win at all.
Lol, I can no longer take your basketball post serious. You take a game here and there, and try to make it his norm. Your basketball post are watered down, with no substance to back up what you're saying. When it mattered most was against the Spurs, and he handled up. If you want me to pull up his playoff stats, I can do so. I can also post his stats in the finals. You called him lousy, but your post about him are lousy.
As far as Durant only being at Texas for one year, that's something an ou fan usually feels the need to point out. You know why they never say that about players that stayed at Kentucky, Duke, or UNC for one year...it's because that doesn't matter. He's Texas for life. It's interesting that you called Durant lousy this year, which is asinine, but I've seen you brag on ou football players like Zach Sanchez, as if he was a beast this season. Suspect.
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There seems to be communication problem between the two of us. I love KD I grew up in San Antonio bleeding Spurs silver and black but because of KD the Thunder are now my favorite team. He could have gone anywhere coming out of high school but he chose Texas and we should all be grateful that he did. And I have never posted that KD was lousy this season. For reasons I still can't comprehend the Golden State Warriors have come out of nowhere and turned into monsters and it's like you have to play an almost perfect game to beat them. And I'm pulling for KD and the Thunder to take them down. The Warriors are the epitome of sissy basketball only Iguodala and maybe Green can play tough.
As for Zack Sanchez I've posted more than once that he's a liability as a tackler. That's why hedidn't get drafted until the fifth round. The only real reason I talk about him is that I have to point him out to these ignorant sooner trolls like heisenberg who don't even know anything about their own team. They have to have a damn UT fan explain to them.
"I've thought how could KD be playing so lousy in his contact year"
That's you...you said it in this thread.
Alright then I will correct myself. The GSW have been off the charts this year everyone knows that. I really want KD to take the Thunder to the title and they've played so our the charts and I worry they won't beat them. And did you watch the Warrior/Thunder game on 2/27? If you didn't KD went from hero to goat in less than 60 seconds. People on here who watched the talked about it in this board and we've all said the same thing. Is that clear enough for you?
I'm going to tell it like it is. The NBA is the easiest sport to watch when it comes to either you do or you don't. As to who did it
Tim Duncan check
Kobe check
Shaq check
Dirk check
Lebron check
D Wade check
Paul Pierce check
Players who couldn't have done it on their own but benefited by the players lasted above
David Robinson
Chris Bosh
Pau Gasol
Kevin Garnett
Players who had it what it takes but had a mediocre supporting class
Chris Paul
Steve Nash
Players who never did it when it mattered and players who never will do it when it matters
Karl Malone
James Harden
Dwight Howard
As far as KD and Russ go the jury is still out on them. Fwiw, together they made it to the playoffs five years in a row. Because KD was out most of the year they didn't make it last year. But in those five years in for of them the Thunder lost to the team who went on to take it all. I'll be cheering on every Thunder point in this series, especially KD. Clear enough for you or are you going to continue to focus on one sentence out of an op?
Tim Duncan check
Kobe check
Shaq check
Dirk check
Lebron check
D Wade check
Paul Pierce check
Players who couldn't have done it on their own but benefited by the players lasted above
David Robinson
Chris Bosh
Pau Gasol
Kevin Garnett
Players who had it what it takes but had a mediocre supporting class
Chris Paul
Steve Nash
Players who never did it when it mattered and players who never will do it when it matters
Karl Malone
James Harden
Dwight Howard
As far as KD and Russ go the jury is still out on them. Fwiw, together they made it to the playoffs five years in a row. Because KD was out most of the year they didn't make it last year. But in those five years in for of them the Thunder lost to the team who went on to take it all. I'll be cheering on every Thunder point in this series, especially KD. Clear enough for you or are you going to continue to focus on one sentence out of an op?
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And go see my reply in that thread, that convo was promptly shut down. You continue to come up shorter than a midget on his knees, let it go. And is what clear, the fact that you lied about saying Durant was lousy this season, and the fact that you know nothing about basketball. Yes, that is very clear.
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So much wrong with this post, but I pass this time. I'll let you remain in bliss.
Hey I can debate you all night long homeboy you want to call me ignorant, you think your Mr NBA? Back it up and prove it.
Not to get in this pissing contest.....as it is pointless.....since its arguing one mans opinions on players compared to another mans. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I think what the other poster was alluding to.....and definitely what made me pause about your post.....was the following.
You list David Robinson as never doing it on his own and Tim Duncan in the other category as leading a team on his own even though he had David Robinson and then others later in his career. Guessing you give him credit for those teams.
But what is really puzzling is putting Wade in the by himself category. He only had Shaq, not that the big fella matters at all or anything. And then he had LeBron. And you also put LeBron in that alone category....when he had Wade AND Bosh. But you put Bosh in the can't do it alone category. So apparently he doesn't get credit for the titles he won with Wade/LeBron....but Wade/LeBron do get credit for doing it alone (when they were clearly a big3). Just the start of what was puzzling.
You should have tossed Olajuwon on the alone category. Clyde Drexler on couldn't do it alone. And Charles Barkley on never coulda done it alone. John Stockton belongs next to Karl Malone too. And on and on.
Gracious sakes alive bb is a team game everyone knows that.
In regards to D Wade. In 2006, without LeBron, he led a the Heat to a title over the Mavs. That's why I give him a check.
In regards to Kevin Garnet. In 2008 the Celtics had a big 3 of Pierce, Garnet, and Ray Allen. Throughout the playoffs Pierce called for the ball and knocked it down every time including a fantastic, game 7 duel against Lebron James. In the finals against the Lakers Garnet didn't even want to shoot the ball until Game 6 when they were at home. That says a lot. I admit it might be a little bit personal for me KG is one of the dirtiest players of all time. He goes way beyond what's acceptable in regards to trash talking ask Tim Duncan. Amongst his peers he's the most hated player in the NBA. And for good reason.
By his fourth year it was obvious that David Robinson was not the kind of guy to lead a team to a title. He was to nice, he didn't have the cold blooded competitive instinct needed. Never was this more evident in the years where the Spurs lost to Barkley's Suns and Olajuwon's Rockets. But, to his credit when Tim Duncan came along Robinson realized the teammate he had and volunteered to be Robin to Tim's Batman. He's the only player I know of who did that willingly all other NBA players have to big an ego to do that. That being said as a man I love David Robinson. He's one of the few professional athletes who is what they say he is off the court and he was a deserving first ballot half Hall of famer. Considering the time he came to the Spurs you can make a case that David saved professional basketball in San Antonio. I was born and raised in San Antonio and I remember that time very well.
Chris Bosh was only a number three guy when Lebron led them to the title. In some of those finals especially the one against the Mavs he disappeared. In the way that James Worthy was a valuable number three guy to Magic and Kareem that's what Bosh was to the Heat. Ray Allen was also that kind of player on the Celtics. But Worthy and Allen were both better than Bosh in that roll. Also, after LeBron went back to Cleveland, Bosh was given a franchise player 20 mil power year contract. He's played about 50% of the time. Sorry, but when you got that kind of contract you're not expected to get hurt, at the minimum you have to at least get to the conference finals. Also in their first post LeBron season the Heart didn't even make the playoffs. And the only reason they got to the second round was because of D Wade I don't even remember Bosh even sitting on the bench showing support to his team.
In regards to Hakeem and Clyde, I'm only talking about the current generation They were both players who led teams their teams to titles. Along with Charles Barkley the only reason they didn't win more was because of Michael Jordan. MJ, along with Bill Russell, were the most dominant players of all time.
And as I said above in the five years OKC has made the playoffs, in for our those years they lost to the team that ended up winning the ring. That's significant but for some reason nobody on this thread has noticed it.
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What's crazy about the Warriors is that everyone on the team can pass and shoot the ball. Reggie was the best the point shooter I've ever seen until Curry came along. He set the single season record for threes last year and he shattered it this year with 402. 402!!! That's outrageous and take into consideration that he missed a few games out of the 82 game schedule. When you do that he makes an average of 5 game !!!!! For a whole season. One of the few games they lost was to the Spurs. In that game they rotated their defense and kept bumping them before they could square up for their perimeter game. It threw of their timing, their point game was off and the Spurs held them to 79. I can't think of any other way to beat them.
And he had freaking Shaq, Alonzo Mourning, and Gary Payton on that team. Even Antoine Walker had a pretty nice year that season.
But sure. Wade did it all on his own. Not like Shaq isn't one of the most dominant big men ever or anything.
I'm sorry, but that whole nonsensical check mark argument is riddled with inconsistencies. No point in arguing with the man who came up with whatever formula it took to get the check marks, though. Sorry for pointing out some of your own madness. Its cool. You are entitled to baffling opinions.
No, Hakeem led his teams to titles. Clyde couldn't get one in Portland and had to join Hakeem to get it. So it would seem he'd belong in the "couldn't do it on his own" category. Yet you seem to state otherwise.
I'm just saying. Phewwww
Ok in the two years they played the Bulls for the title. It was a game that Bulls won at the buzzer. In the closing minutes Malone went 0 for 6. He was a good free throw shooter during his career. But with 10 seconds to go he clanged them both. MJ hit one at the buzzer and instead of overtime the Jazz lost. Games 5 and 6 were tight and while John Stockton came through Malone was 0 for 8.
In the '98 finals while Stockton played great in the clutch Malone played mediocre.
That year D Wade was Batman and Shaq by his own admission was number two. Payton was at the end of his career and contributed as a roll player and Mourning hardly played. But it was D Wade who put the team on his back and took them to the promise land.
And yes there's no denying the contributions of GP, Walker, and of course Shaq. But there has to be somebody who the team can't win without and on that Miami it was D Wade.
The thing that is maddening for me about the Thunder is their mediocre assist to turnover ratio. I mean you look at the Warriors and the Spurs and they have like a 2 to 1, sometimes 3 to 1 ratio. Otoh the Thunder its almost even sometimes the turnovers are higher more than assists. Russ is going to be Russ and you can't change him. Between the two of them he and KD are always going to have at least 8 to's a game. In fairness to them they have passed the ball around and they set up for their teammates for open shots but they kept missing them. However, against the Spurs, Dion Waiters finally found his stroke and Adams and Enes Kanter scored around the basket as much as 25-30 points a game. This helps reduce the to's raises the number of assists. Also other players besides Russ need to contribute with assists. KD is good for a few, but other players have to contribute as well.
What's also maddening about Russ and KD's is how many to's occur in the fourth quarter. Players who make cross court passes drive me crazy it almost always leads to turnovers. They seem to telegraph their passes because the Spurs stole a lot of them. They also seem to have the ball stolen from them when an opposing player comes from behind to take it away on to many occasions. But in games 4 through 6 against the Spurs they started doing it right. In game 6 they only had 10 to's and 6 of them were in the fourth quarter when the game was out of reach. It's imperative they do this against the Warriors cause they're doing it against a team whose defense is built around steals.
T minus 4 hours 26 minutes until jump ball.
What's also maddening about Russ and KD's is how many to's occur in the fourth quarter. Players who make cross court passes drive me crazy it almost always leads to turnovers. They seem to telegraph their passes because the Spurs stole a lot of them. They also seem to have the ball stolen from them when an opposing player comes from behind to take it away on to many occasions. But in games 4 through 6 against the Spurs they started doing it right. In game 6 they only had 10 to's and 6 of them were in the fourth quarter when the game was out of reach. It's imperative they do this against the Warriors cause they're doing it against a team whose defense is built around steals.
T minus 4 hours 26 minutes until jump ball.
I don't have a dog in the fight here, but to say that Hakeem led his team and Drexler needed Hakeem represents EVERY championship team.
Jordan had Pippen
Magic had Kareem and Worthy
Lebron didn't do it on his own for sure. He had to get Bosh and Wade
Every superstar needs a wing man.
Oh I agree. And then some.
I just don't get how one person arbitrarily assigns some guys credit for leading their teams. Others no credit. Some partial credit. And others were in some strange "good enough to win it by themselves, even though they didn't" category.
Good grief I agree to. I specifically said that David Robinson willingly became Robin to Tim Duncans Batman and he won two rings doing so. Same thing with LeBron and D Wade. One more time Shaq was the number two guy on the Heat and he was to say the least an important cog on that team. But Shaq was 34 and his body was starting to wear down. The Heat needed D Wade more than him. Go back and look at 2006 Finals why do you think he won the SI Sportsman of the year?
One more time. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT BB IS A TEAM GAME !!!!!!
But the players listed originally led their teams to the championship. Good brief Charlie Brown do I need to remind you people that you have to have the alpha male to make the dreams come true. And the players listed did that.
Look let me yell you something painful about David Robinson. There's a credible hoops writer named Charlie Rosen. He's not right about everything hoops no one is. But his sources on the Spurs said the reason the Spurs never won anything when the team was built around David was because he really didn't care about bb. The person that said it was none other than Popovich. And Pop has been in San Antonio since 1988 the year before DR came to town. I mean I watched those games back then and I know it's true I saw it.
And there is no way on Gods been earth a team built around KG could win a title he didn't have the insides to do it. The only other sport I follow besides college fb is the NBA. I mean Kevin is not even liked by his teammates. Word around the campfire is he doesn't have one friend amongst his peers. Leaders like that never win rings. But as a supporting player you can which he did.
Another thing to back and watch games 6 and 7 when the Heat beat the Spurs. Chris Bosh contribution was minimal especially in Game 6. He was a non factor when Miami last to Dallas.
By no means am I a hoops expert, not even close. But go back and watch films of the games I mentioned. It's not true because I said it. It's true because the camera doesn't lie.
