Won’t happen. We’re mired in mediocrity for the rest of our lives.
winning just doesn't matter at Texas. it is really true. 3 conference titles since 97?! it is really difficult to root for or support in any fashion a coach and team that still employ beck and warehime.
ask yourself this, how does tom hold an expectation of his team that they are excellent in everything they do, from peeing, hydration to eating to how they run on the field at practice to stretching and NOT HOLD WAREHIME, BECK, HIMSELF AND HIS STAFF to those same expectations. beck and warehime weren't good enough to really keep their positions so we'll hide them in another position and compensate them well beyond what they should be? for continuity?! continuity of crap and ineffectiveness!
herman has basically completed 3 years of mediocre football. his offense, defense and st are garbage. he is outcoached weekly and often. other teams play with more poise and passion and more DESIRE!
there is no reason to continue with herman. this entire program needs to be blown up. herman isn't turning this around.
ask yourself another question, who would be more successful if herman and riley switched teams and were allowed one month to prepare for the bowl?
the hell with urban.....I say full court press for Dabo...
oldhorn, there is ZERO chance that Dabo would leave Clemson to coach Texas. None.
Dabo is staying at Clemson until saban leaves Bama. Then dabo is headed to Bama.the hell with urban.....I say full court press for Dabo...
Anybody remember ole PearlandSooner/TexasSooner? He was arguing with us telling us that Franklin was the way to go. None of us were having it at the time (well at least as a leading candidate).James Franklin...who should’ve been hired in 2014
oldhorn, there is ZERO chance that Dabo would leave Clemson to coach Texas. None.
Bullshit. Anyone can be money whipped into anything. I would toss up a number that bama could never match and Dabo could never refuse.....plan B would be Franklin
Not really. Not everyone cares that much about a few extra million. Vast majority do, unfortunately, but not everyone.
If I was CDC, I would wait 1 more year to make a head coach change for several reasons: Herman needs another year to see if some coaching/staff changes produce better outcomes; need another year of data on Fleck & Rhule; need to see if Franklin or Meyer are interested.
If Herman doesn’t make it and I don’t Think he will long term, i would like to see Texas (assuming Meyer is out of the picture) target a coach with a minimum 6 preferably 10 years at a power 5 level school that has had sustained success, well 8-9 wins a year or more. If he built the program up even better. I’d be weary of any coaches with only 2-4 years HC experience or ones that weren’t in P5 conference.I agree with this somewhat. Thing is, all Texas fans are frustrated and want to win. If Herman were fired after this season, who could Texas realistically hire? Not just another "good coach", but the coach that will put us in the elite of CFB. Other than Meyer, I don't see that type of guy out there that is available.
These guys aren't coming to Texas:
Dabo
John Harbaugh
Saban
Franklin
Riley
Candidates:
Meyer
Gundy
Rhule
Campbell
Harsin
Greg Roman
Eric Bieniemy
Scott Satterfield
Mike Norvell
Herman has been a big disappointment. There is not disputing that. However, the pool of potential, available candidates right now isn't all that impressive. There really isn't an ideal, home run hire out there.
hes said penn state is his dream job. hes from not too far away from thereMM,
Why do think James Franklin is not an option?
hes said penn state is his dream job. hes from not too far away from there
Gee----- pretty sure I know someone who was pushing that narrative 5 or so years ago.I say the hell with college coaches. Go get Jon Gruden and let him run the whole football show. Give him the same deal Saban has at Bama where he has total control without all the meddling from boosters and administrators. When Bama hired Saban, he was mostly an average NFL coach with some college experience. It worked for Bama. I think it will work for us.
If Herman doesn’t make it and I don’t Think he will long term, i would like to see Texas (assuming Meyer is out of the picture) target a coach with a minimum 6 preferably 10 years at a power 5 level school that has had sustained success, well 8-9 wins a year or more. If he built the program up even better. I’d be weary of any coaches with only 2-4 years HC experience or ones that weren’t in P5 conference.
Meyer, Saban, and Dabo are the only home run hitters on those lists. I don't understand why nobody ever considers the other 3 most decorated college coaches out there; Pete Carroll, Jim Tressel, and - angels and ministers of grace defend us! - Bob Stoops. They sure know a hell of a lot more about winning on the big stage than all of those other flavors of the month.I agree with this somewhat. Thing is, all Texas fans are frustrated and want to win. If Herman were fired after this season, who could Texas realistically hire? Not just another "good coach", but the coach that will put us in the elite of CFB. Other than Meyer, I don't see that type of guy out there that is available.
These guys aren't coming to Texas:
Dabo
John Harbaugh
Saban
Franklin
Riley
Gruden
Candidates:
Meyer
Gundy
Rhule
Campbell
Harsin
Greg Roman
Eric Bieniemy
Scott Satterfield
Mike Norvell
Herman has been a big disappointment. There is not disputing that. However, the pool of potential, available candidates right now isn't all that impressive. There really isn't an ideal, home run hire out there.
I agree with this somewhat. Thing is, all Texas fans are frustrated and want to win. If Herman were fired after this season, who could Texas realistically hire? Not just another "good coach", but the coach that will put us in the elite of CFB. Other than Meyer, I don't see that type of guy out there that is available.
These guys aren't coming to Texas:
Dabo
John Harbaugh
Saban
Franklin
Riley
Gruden
Candidates:
Meyer
Gundy
Rhule
Campbell
Harsin
Greg Roman
Eric Bieniemy
Scott Satterfield
Mike Norvell
Herman has been a big disappointment. There is not disputing that. However, the pool of potential, available candidates right now isn't all that impressive. There really isn't an ideal, home run hire out there.
What about these guys?
Leach
Patterson
Holgorsen
Muschamp
Shanahan
I say the hell with college coaches. Go get Jon Gruden and let him run the whole football show. Give him the same deal Saban has at Bama where he has total control without all the meddling from boosters and administrators. When Bama hired Saban, he was mostly an average NFL coach with some college experience. It worked for Bama. I think it will work for us.
Hard to say who would consider it. someone like who you said gundy would probably be a good choice. Not splashy hire but he has shown a long body of work and has been very consistent or done an above average job. Texas is a step up, more tradition, better paying, more resources. I think he is reasonably available. Of course Meyer is available and I want us to make a strong push for him, but I doubt he ends up here for whatever reason.I don't disagree with what you said at all, but who fits this criteria and who realistically would consider the Texas job that Texas would want?
Jon Gruden got a 100 million dollar deal with Oakland. No way he is coming here lolI say the hell with college coaches. Go get Jon Gruden and let him run the whole football show. Give him the same deal Saban has at Bama where he has total control without all the meddling from boosters and administrators. When Bama hired Saban, he was mostly an average NFL coach with some college experience. It worked for Bama. I think it will work for us.
What about these guys?
Leach
Patterson
Holgorsen
Muschamp
Shanahan