From Former Big 12 coach Barnett

[utexfan5]

Gary Barnett ripping current Texas coach Charlie Strong during a radio interview ...

"It's like a big soap opera down there," Barnett said. "I don't think he's gonna survive it. ... It's just one Band-Aid after another, and he doesn't cure anything. He doesn't solve anything. He just puts a Band-Aid on it and creates another crisis. ... When you have to change that many coaches, there's something wrong - and it's wrong at the top."

"I don't think he deserves to survive this. When you can't make any better decisions and stick with people anymore so than he's done, then you deserve to go sit down a take a time out. ... He needs a time out and a little time off to go relearn how to be a head coach because he's just made this a disaster down there."

"He didn't want to take that job in the first place," Barnett said. "Lou Holtz talked him into taking it. Charlie wanted to go to Florida or South Carolina and they both opened after he left. So, he didn't want to be there, he doesn't like recruiting, he's disorganized, he's all those things. It isn't so much 'Who is the right guy for the job?' it's just that Charlie isn't the right guy. ... It's a hard job. I think it takes somebody that is familiar with the culture and Charlie is not familiar with the culture - and has never taken the time to learn it or throw his arms around it. It's a completely different bird there than anywhere else."

 

[Son of Wasatch]

Barnett sucked as a coach, but it's hard to argue with what he was saying. I think it comes down to Charlie being a horrible fit for Texas. There were things I loved about Charlie, but they are overshadowed by his suck.

 

[bubba2023]

"He didn't want to take that job in the first place," Barnett said. "Lou Holtz talked him into taking it. Charlie wanted to go to Florida or South Carolina and they both opened after he left. So, he didn't want to be there, he doesn't like recruiting, he's disorganized, he's all those things"

I agree he's disorganized, but the rest of this WTF?

 

[TapeFace]

Barnett sucked as a coach, but it's hard to argue with what he was saying. I think it comes down to Charlie being a horrible fit for Texas. There were things I loved about Charlie, but they are overshadowed by his suck.

That's kind of harsh and not really accurate. He won 2 Big 10 titles at Northwestern where nobody had won before and a Big 12 title with Colorado and nobody has won there since.

 

[LongfellowDrew]

I think it comes down to Charlie being a horrible fit for Texas. There were things I loved about Charlie, but they are overshadowed by his suck.

I agree. I don't think Charlie is a bad coach just bad for UT. He got into something that's way bigger then he can handle and sometimes that kind of thing happens.

 

[westx]

Sobering words. I am glad it is an outsider saying it. I haven't had time to listen to much national talk radio the last month or so, but, lately it seems that several have actually been critical of Strong. Usually the opposite occurs where it is fake PR to be supportive of the coach (especially ex-coaches) and critical of the school and boosters.

 

[clob94]

Well, Dr. Lou is on college Sirius XM all the time. I will gladly call him and remind him that he recruited me and ask him if he really did talk charlie into it. It makes sense seeing as how Lou has been one of his most ardent supporters.

 

[Son of Wasatch]

Charlie has done a lot of good things, and I'm glad he cleaned up the program and got rid of a lot of bad attitudes. Our guys are going to class and they are doing well. For that I love Charlie.

However, if we fire him, it won't be for all the good he did. Let's look at the facts.

1. In 2 seasons and 4 games into his 3rd we have had 11 losses by 18 pts or more.
2. Texas has had 3 extra pts blocked, how is that even possible. Two of which were returned for touchdowns
3. Two losing seasons
4. Shut out by KSU and Iowa State
5. All but two of his original assistants are gone. One of the two just got demoted.
6. Allowing a team to get the ball to start both halfs because you can't manage a coin flip
7. 3 offensive coordinators in 3 seasons


Honestly, that is stuff off the top of my head. Fact is both he and Texas need a fresh start.

 

[DHHorn]

How anyone can say that is a short leash is beyond me. Any school would part ways if their coach had that record. Texas may have some administrative issues but parting ways with Strong is not one of them. If he doesn't turn it around and still stays, then that would indicate things are screwed up at Belmont.

 

[Belldozer1]

That's kind of harsh and not really accurate. He won 2 Big 10 titles at Northwestern where nobody had won before and a Big 12 title with Colorado and nobody has won there since.

A one time , during Barnett's tenure at Colorado, they had a tough defense. He fizzled towards the end but he wasn't a bad coach in my opinion.

 

[Belldozer1]

Charlie has done a lot of good things, and I'm glad he cleaned up the program and got rid of a lot of bad attitudes. Our guys are going to class and they are doing well. For that I love Charlie.

However, if we fire him, it won't be for all the good he did. Let's look at the facts.

1. In 2 seasons and 4 games into his 3rd we have had 11 losses by 18 pts or more.
2. Texas has had 3 extra pts blocked, how is that even possible. Two of which were returned for touchdowns
3. Two losing seasons
4. Shut out by KSU and Iowa State
5. All but two of his original assistants are gone. One of the two just got demoted.
6. Allowing a team to get the ball to start both halfs because you can't manage a coin flip
7. 3 offensive coordinators in 3 seasons


Honestly, that is stuff off the top of my head. Fact is both he and Texas need a fresh start.

Wasatch do you think Belmont is too embarrassed to fire Strong and are hoping against hope, basically, that he turns this around or makes it respectable. I've said all along, under any normal scenario in the working world, someone with Strong's results, given his pay grade especially, would have been gone already. It doesn't take astute observations to realize, you aren't getting what you thought you were getting. I agree with others that said Strong may have been a token hire due to Pattersons previous comments. Just my opinion.

 

[TexExSpur]

Still butthurt about 70-3.

 

[mm42]

Not sure why he would attach Strong. Charlie seems like a decent guy, but this seemed like bad blood was involved. Why else would he be such a prick about it? Maybe Mrs. Barnett likes her some Charlie, kidding of course.

 

[horn01]

the accuracy of this statement aside, why is it necessary? Everyone knows Strong is fighting for his job, and rightfully so. He'll either earn the right to keep it or earn his firing.

 

[TexExSpur]

He was passed over for Mack Brown. HE suffers from a bad case of the butthurt.

 

[bubba2023]

He was passed over for Mack Brown. HE suffers from a bad case of the butthurt.

Yeah but he's not really attacking Texas he's attacking Strong. If he were bad mouthing the admin and everything for all of their screw-ups, your butthurt argument would make more sense. I didn't hear the interview so maybe he did do that, but from what is posted above Barnett's crosshairs are directly on Strong. In which Strong has nothing to do with 70-3 or Barnett being passed over for Mack.

 

[TexExSpur]

Yeah but he's not really attacking Texas he's attacking Strong. If he were bad mouthing the admin and everything for all of their screw-ups, your butthurt argument would make more sense. I didn't hear the interview so maybe he did do that, but from what is posted above Barnett's crosshairs are directly on Strong. In which Strong has nothing to do with 70-3 or Barnett being passed over for Mack.

Half full or half empty.

 

[oldhorn2]

Barnett is a weasel....he was over rated and exposed as a coach....may as well ask Warren Buffet his opinion. It means as much in this instance.

 

[Cotton #12]

If I was a coach that got beat by Texas 70-3,I would not be opening my mouth.

 

[HornsRuleU]

Had I chosen the name TapeFace, I definitely would not be opening my mouth or posting.

 

[dtrain87]

What if someone posted that their father wasn't allowed to attend the game 62 years ago? Would you bow down to his father?

 

[Son of Wasatch]

I know this is going to sound shitty of me.

As far as I'm concerned, I can't lose today.

Texas wins and fantastic, we just beat blOwU, nothing better in October.
Texas loses and it's another nail in the coffin of the Charlie Strong era.

As far as I'm concerned it's a win for Texas.

 

[letterman]

When he left Florida as an assistant to go to Louisville,he brought teddy bridge water with him. Teddy goes to the nfl and Charlie goes to Texas.. Be very careful of these coaches who succeed with a superstar qb. Will tom Herman be the same without ward as his qb?? Just asking.

 

[Son of Wasatch]

Right now my short list is

John Harbaugh
Tom Herman
Chip Kelly
Dabo Sweeney

No order.

Herman is the least qualified from that list and might have the most upside. If either John or Chip are remotely interested you go hard and make sure money is no object. Those two are almost guaranteed home run hires. Dabo would be a great hire, but not necessarily a home run.

 

[73Card]

Cut to the chase, Charlie Strong was the wrong guy for the Horn gig from day 1. Strong's success at UL was based on 2 recruiting classes courtesy of Clint Hurt. Hurt later justifiably ended up on the NC2A **** list for recruiting violations while he was at Miami.

I was never sold on Strong primarily because I believed his entire persona was a charade.
Good luck, I have always admired UT, The institution and athletic program.

 

[Cotton #12]

When he left Florida as an assistant to go to Louisville,he brought teddy bridge water with him. Teddy goes to the nfl and Charlie goes to Texas.. Be very careful of these coaches who succeed with a superstar qb. Will tom Herman be the same without ward as his qb?? Just asking.

All true,from high school to pros,great players make the coaches look smart,bad ones get him fired.