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Garrett Gilbert temporarily elevated to Cowboys QB1
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You have got to hand it to Gilbert, for overcoming a lot to be named a starting (although temporarily) QB in the NFL. Good for the kid.
Cowboys suck, though.
Cowboys suck, though.
Whenever I think of Garret Gilbert it reminds me of Kyle Allen.
They were both 5 stars and the number QB 1 in their respective classes.
They were both anointed as can’t miss super stars.
They both flashed in college, and then struggled. Hard to pin point the problem. Injuries, poor coaching, bad supporting cast, unrealistic fan expectations.
They both transferred, made it to the nfl, and are still playing professionally.
I wonder how their careers would have been impacted in a NIL environment.
They were both 5 stars and the number QB 1 in their respective classes.
They were both anointed as can’t miss super stars.
They both flashed in college, and then struggled. Hard to pin point the problem. Injuries, poor coaching, bad supporting cast, unrealistic fan expectations.
They both transferred, made it to the nfl, and are still playing professionally.
I wonder how their careers would have been impacted in a NIL environment.
He was nineteen. He was a kid. You can give that "sack up" talk to a 38 y/o man, but he'd barely gotten his feet wet in adulthood. I'm 44 and would absolutely hate 19-20 y/o me. I was timid, lacked fortitude, saw problems easier than I saw solutions, have almost no "make it happen" in me. I was a poor imitation of the man I am today. But the only reason I'm the man I am today is because I grew up. I made mistakes, got kicked in the teeth, fell down, learned, developed resolve, grew in critical-thinking and problem-solving, realized that problems are just opportunities to show off your abilities, et al. To make a cocky-*** statement that a teenager should just walk out of his parent's house with the thick skin, mental fortitude, and perspective of a man many decades into adulthood in the face of boos, hate mail, slashed tires, etc is idiocy of the highest degree.
There is not a single successful man that is not 8,000x the man at 40 that he was at 20. We all were idiots running around with poorly formed brains in our late teens, you included. And we all have benefited from the experiences we've gotten in the decades since. There's a reason Gilbert is where he is today. Because he learned. He grew. He developed resolve, a thick skin, learned how to fight for what he wanted. Maybe he fell short when he was 18, 19, 20 y/o at Texas. But dang, judge him on who he became, not who he was. I doubt there's anyone you'd appreciate perpetually judging you based on who you were as a teenager.
He was treated pretty poorly by segments of our fanbase, as was Chris Simms. Ridiculous behavior.
Usually as you age, you get the grace to not shit on people (or institutions) that were part of your earlier life. The Texas situation had many dynamics and a truly more mature person who had grown would have the maturity to realize that part of the problem might have been caused by his own actions. I truly admire people who do not blame others for their problems in life. There is always somebody who had it a heck of a lot worse.
The difference in how they were treated was not. It was despicable, but I can see how folks like you can't distinguish bad behavior from bad behavior.
Oh, he is now supposed to realize that the same adults who shit all over him as a youngster, and will do it to the next kid who doesn't perform to their expectations, are just extremely rabid fans, and laugh it off, and act like it never happened? Man, go back and read your post.....it is pretty poorly though out....
The board shit all over Sterns, Mitchell, Foster et al. Did you defend them? Or pile on?
There is a difference between calling out someone for poor play, and calling them on their cell and making death threats. No one is saying any of those players are above criticism, but extreme ridicule and threats are over the top. If that happened to any of the 3 you named, then, yes, that is just as bad.
How did he take a dump on anybody? Correct me if I'm wrong, but he has not publicly excoriated anyone related to his time at Texas, blamed anyone for his failures on the field, etc. He's just not a fan of the fan base because of how he was treated. That's valid. I can't think of any group of people that, a decade late, I'd hold in high regard after booing me, trashing my car, slashing my tires, sending hate mail to my parents, etc.
Is it poor form to not like people that mistreated you a decade earlier? Ohio State fans threw beer on my mom, spit on my wife (neither my dad, nor I were present when this happened), and we needed police to get us safely to our car. I've never been to B/CS that my car wasn't vandalized. I now haven't been back in 2 decades as a result. Do you think it's water, even though it's been 1.5 and 2 decades respectively. No. Not even remotely. I have no clue why people who act similarly in their own lives suddenly expect others to be the Pope and run around with a pot of forgiveness and grace.
All that said, nothing he’s ever done screams championship winning QB. Maybe a Greg McElory bus driver type on his best day.
Heck, I'm not even a championship poster. So he's got me beat!
Some of you all need to really to some self reflection, especially 10+ years after the situation.
I’m not gonna say it didn’t happen, but I am skeptical as well. I just don’t recall ever hearing about his car being vandalized, tires being slashed, death threats being sent to him and his parents etc. That all seems like stuff that would be front page in the AAS (you know Kirk Bohls would’ve been salivating to get his hands on that story) as well as ESPN if he truly went through all of that. I’d just like to see some sort of proof that those things went down before I believe some of those stories.
I don’t doubt that some fans were assholes and went too far in their disdain for Gilbert. But again, that is not something that’s unique to Texas and it’s certainly not reflective of the way the majority of UT fans treated him. Did he get booed? Yes. Were fans a little harsh at times? Sure. Is that all that odd when the starting QB of a major college football power sucks it up on the field week in and week out for an entire season? Absolutely not.
I honestly don’t expect GG to have positive feelings towards UT or our fans, I just think it’s a little silly the way some on here act as if the flack he caught was out of the norm or completely unwarranted, and I don’t think we need to kiss his ass now to make up for what was a very typical fan response to a player performing poorly. It’s football. Passion runs high amongst fanbases and it is absolutely not weird at all for a fanbase to turn on a player if he’s playing like shit. It happens, it may not be pretty but it happens, and everyone who played the game growing up knows that.
Then they completely changed the offense he was brought in here to run, to run an offense they had NOT recruited for. Laziness, all around by that staff.....
Which other players in the last 30 years do you remember getting booed in DKR? I don't remember any besides Gilbert.
They changed the offense because he couldn’t hit the broadside of a barn. It’s better to run the ball, than throw it, when your QB is just a likely to throw an interception as a completion. That was Gilbert.
This should be pinned. Mack set the wheels in motion for an entire decade wasted in terrible football.
Lol. Go back and watch the 2010 KState game. He still holds the record for interceptions in a single game. He was aweful. Half the time you couldn’t even tell who his intended target was. You would watch him throw, and “WTF” was the first thing that came to mind
All 85 players against UCLA in ‘97. Pretty sure Simms did particularly in the ‘00 opener against LaLa(?) when he threw a pick 6 and when we’re losing. The cult wanted their god inserted in the game. And you can split hairs all you want but the ‘01 CCG was a de facto home game with 60k Texas booing Simms quite loudly
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