Herman's gone
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Would hate to see Herman at LSU especially since LSU already recruits the hell out of Houston. Miles should have been gone last year so his leash is short right now. A&M, Texas, and LSU all will be after him if they start sucking. LSU has the early head start
The only x-factor might be Fertitta. I've heard that he'll pay whatever the price to keep him at UH, and he has the deepest of deep pockets. This will be very interesting to see how things play out. Herman is definitely the hottest commodity in CFB.
Herman has one of the top 4 recruiting grounds in his lap in Houston, and if the school pays him, he can make UH the new U. If they have a great year, especially if they run the table and make the playoffs, there is zero reason for him to leave, especially if UH gets a B12 invite.
I disagree that they can become a perennial winner. A stronger institution will always come calling and pull Herman or whoever at whatever school. There is a lot of talk for UH to come to the B12 because they are hot, but, this is a long term investment. B12 shouldn't be so short sighted. Houston has never been a destination job in major sports. An argument can be made in the 70s/early 80s, but, I would still argue against.
It doesn't matter. Houston is not LSU or Texas. And Houston won't pay even what A&M will. A&M, Texas and LSU would still give him Houston recruiting. Adding the schools the Big 12 are adding aren't upgrades to the conference. It will be conference USA. Herman will bolt
Houston passed the interview Today beating the #3 preseason ranked Ou and the stadium was full of fans.
If LSU called Herrman would leave. LSU is arguably the 2nd best program in the SEC behind Bama. I don't think it's a lock that he leaves Houston forTexas A&M. Yeah A&M could pay more but is A&M even with Herrman likely to be as good as Bama, LSU, etc on a consistent basis? I don't know. His path to playoffs and championships so probably better at Houston. Especially if they join the big 12 which is probably likely imo
I think you guys underestimate Houston. Let's not forget Art Briles had a good recored at Houston and turned Baylor in to a power(ethics questionable). Sumlin replaced him and parlayed success there to the A&M job. So while Herrman has certainly taken Houston to new heights they weren't exactly a dog of a program before him. They would be a solid addition to the conference imo
Yes other programs probably will come calling. Doesn't mean he will go. Look at Gary Patterson. A bunch of programs would love to lure him away from TCU. Haven't done it yet. If I'm Herrman I'd probably only leave Houston for a few jobs.
Texas
OU
LSU
Bama
That's probably it. Especially if they join the big 12
I think you guys underestimate Houston. Let's not forget Art Briles had a good recored at Houston and turned Baylor in to a power(ethics questionable). Sumlin replaced him and parlayed success there to the A&M job. So while Herrman has certainly taken Houston to new heights they weren't exactly a dog of a program before him. They would be a solid addition to the conference imo
Yes other programs probably will come calling. Doesn't mean he will go. Look at Gary Patterson. A bunch of programs would love to lure him away from TCU. Haven't done it yet. If I'm Herrman I'd probably only leave Houston for a few jobs.
Texas
OU
LSU
Bama
That's probably it. Especially if they join the big 12
Herman would most certainly leave for A&M. Don't kid yourself. You can hate but Houston isn't the same job. I agree the others you listed are more lucrative but he would leave for A&M as well.
By your logic TCU should never have been let in, and Baylor and Kansas State would be highly questionable. Heck even Kansas brings nothing outside of basketball. Houston can be perennial. Florida and Florida State had zero tradition at one point. UH absolutely is a good long term investment.
A&M is more lucrative probably. Never denied that. I'm not talking just about money though. If it was just about money Patterson wouldn't be at TCU. Why would you go to A&M and go up against Bama and LSU every year just to get in the playoff mix when you can stay at Houston or go to one of the other schools I mentioned and have a much easier path?
I am not saying you don't have a point. I just think it is best for UT not to have too many Texas teams in the conference. If UT leaves the Big 12, I am all in on UH to the Big 12.
I get that. Unfortunately there are 10 D1 schools in Texas. I dont think any other state can match that. There arent enough conferences for them all to be in that are good, so unfortunately there has to be a conference with several, I think, and it just makes sense. And UH has the potential to as good or better than TCU year in and year out. The key is keeping the coaches. Miami wasnt always The U... It has to start somewhere, and UH does have some traditional. A Heisman trophy winner and teams that have been ranked in the top 5 before, albeit a while back. And the reasons I gave before. They are sitting on a recruiting gold mine. They can win a national championship and dont have to recruit any players not from the greater Houston area. There are very few schools that can take the best players from a 30 mile radius around campus and say that. UH is one of them.
If UH gets the Big 12 invite and they bump his salary up, I could see Herman staying until U. Meyer leaves Ohio St. I think he ultimately ends up there. With Meyer's previous health issues, he could leave at any time.
Charlie wasn't your first choice clob, apparently Texas isn't for everyone. But as far as prestige you are right and I won't pretend otherwise, but Texas doesn't always get what they want...and even when they do, teams leave and a conference and Texas is left trying to lure the SMU, Memphis, BYU, and Cincinnati's of the world. Yes Houston is decent addition as it stands but when Herman is gone what then?
I'm for adding solid programs wherever they are. Houston is probably the best most promising program of the group available.
Charlie wasn't the first choice, but our top choices elected to stay in their current jobs. What Clob is saying is if A&M and Texas were looking for a coach at the same time Herrman would go to UT over A&M. Not sure anyone could argue that.
