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TCU is coming to town riding high and undefeated. Looking at their season results thus far, everyone has been able to score a decent chunk on them but not able to stop their offense.

What is their bread and butter? I haven't watched them this year to really get a feel for what they do. My early prediction has TCU being our last loss of the season but I'm actually now feeling we have a slight advantage at home.

Statement time:
55-45 Texas wins in a barn burner
 
TCU is coming to town riding high and undefeated. Looking at their season results thus far, everyone has been able to score a decent chunk on them but not able to stop their offense.

What is their bread and butter? I haven't watched them this year to really get a feel for what they do. My early prediction has TCU being our last loss of the season but I'm actually now feeling we have a slight advantage at home.

Statement time:
55-45 Texas wins in a barn burner
Stop Max Duggan that's where it starts.

Don't lose your composure like TT did in the 4th quarter yesterday.

I'm not certain but the horn thugs could be ranked #4 coming into to Memorial Stadium.
 
TCU is coming to town riding high and undefeated. Looking at their season results thus far, everyone has been able to score a decent chunk on them but not able to stop their offense.

What is their bread and butter? I haven't watched them this year to really get a feel for what they do. My early prediction has TCU being our last loss of the season but I'm actually now feeling we have a slight advantage at home.

Statement time:
55-45 Texas wins in a barn burner
Quentin Johnson #1 WR. He’s their stud. Their 2 RBs and Max Duggan are really good as well. I think it’s going to be a high scoring game. If Sark can get the 2nd half issues worked out then I like our chances. We have played really well at home all season.
 
Quentin Johnson #1 WR. He’s their stud. Their 2 RBs and Max Duggan are really good as well. I think it’s going to be a high scoring game. If Sark can get the 2nd half issues worked out then I like our chances. We have played really well at home all season.
I guess I shouldn’t complain too much, since we got the W. I don’t understand he not adjusting or doing anything about ksu’s all out loading the box so many times. I know Quinn hasn’t been perfect, but you have to play to win, and to do that, Sark needs to trust him at least a little bit more.
 
Wow! I show Texas -7 and the total is 64 1/2

Seems like Vegas is laying the trap for people to take TCU plus the points. That line is a head scratcher.
 
Wow! I show Texas -7 and the total is 64 1/2
Anything can happen but I think this will be an all out offensive game. Texas shouldn't be favored and 64.5 seems low imo.

That being said, I'd still take the over and Texas to cover. Wouldn't bet the farm on it though.
 
I guess I shouldn’t complain too much, since we got the W. I don’t understand he not adjusting or doing anything about ksu’s all out loading the box so many times. I know Quinn hasn’t been perfect, but you have to play to win, and to do that, Sark needs to trust him at least a little bit more.

we ran plays on 12 1st downs in the 2nd half of KSU

10 of them rushes after being largely balanced in the 1st half.

We need to maintain the balance and continue to attack the field, left right center, short and intermediate to keep the D off balance.

We let KSU dig in to stuff the run and for the most part it worked.
 
I think Texas wins the game. They play better at home, they have the monkey off their back on the “can they win a big game on the road.” You know Gary Patterson would love to be a part of giving TCU its first loss too.

and you combine this weeks win and a win next week I think some recruiting battles start tilting toward Texas as we approach signing day.
 
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I guess I shouldn’t complain too much, since we got the W. I don’t understand he not adjusting or doing anything about ksu’s all out loading the box so many times. I know Quinn hasn’t been perfect, but you have to play to win, and to do that, Sark needs to trust him at least a little bit more.
I agree. I thought he didn’t utilize the screen game enough either. I think after the OSU game it’s going to take a little bit for that trust to build back up. Whenever Quinn does figure it out though then look out, this offense is going to be scary good.
 
This year TCU defense has shown a propensity for cheap shots and borderline dirty hits. So far nobody from the other team has decided to show them why that’s a bad idea.
Do we have that guy on our D or are we just a team full of Christian Joneses. Nothing against 70 but he’s the nicest O lineman I’ve ever seen in my life. Do we not have anybody with some $&@) in their neck?
 
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This year TCU defense has shown a propensity for cheap shots and borderline dirty hits. So far nobody from the other team has decided to show them why that’s a bad idea.
Do we have that guy on our D or are we just a team full of Christian Joneses. Nothing against 70 but he’s the nicest O lineman I’ve ever seen in my life. Do we not have anybody with some $&@) in their neck?
About time somebody's else brought this up.

I'm thinking put in some guy who isn't really part of the rotation. That way it wouldn't hurt when he gets ejected.

Win the toss and elect to kick off. Then unload on the return man.

Let's give an early warning of what the horn thugs are in for.
 
About time somebody's else brought this up.

I'm thinking put in some guy who isn't really part of the rotation. That way it wouldn't hurt when he gets ejected.

Win the toss and elect to kick off. Then unload on the return man.

Let's give an early warning of what the horn thugs are in for.

This needs to be done to Duggan, not the return man. Turn the tables on them for what they've done to opposing QB's all year!
 
we ran plays on 12 1st downs in the 2nd half of KSU

10 of them rushes after being largely balanced in the 1st half.

We need to maintain the balance and continue to attack the field, left right center, short and intermediate to keep the D off balance.

We let KSU dig in to stuff the run and for the most part it worked.
I agree on the balanced attack but after listening to Sarks presser I kinda understand why we veered away from slinging it.
KSU has been an interception machine this year and I believe Sark decided to protect his freshman QB from freshman QB oopsies and handing over the game on a platter.
I'm not saying I agree or disagree with it but I do somewhat understand the reasoning. We still tried our best to lose in the 2nd half but thank God Ford didn't get the message.
 
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I agree on the balanced attack but after listening to Sarks presser I kinda understand why we veered away from slinging it.
KSU has been an interception machine this year and I believe Sark decided to protect his freshman QB from freshman QB oopsies and handing over the game on a platter.
I'm not saying I agree or disagree with it but I do somewhat understand the reasoning. We still tried our best to lose in the 2nd half but thank God Ford didn't get the message.
Yeah I do think from a long term building standpoint you don’t want to make Quinn the reason for losses. I get that.
 
I agree on the balanced attack but after listening to Sarks presser I kinda understand why we veered away from slinging it.
KSU has been an interception machine this year and I believe Sark decided to protect his freshman QB from freshman QB oopsies and handing over the game on a platter.
I'm not saying I agree or disagree with it but I do somewhat understand the reasoning. We still tried our best to lose in the 2nd half but thank God Ford didn't get the message.

I'd buy that except we threw the ball plenty in the 1st half. Or does KSU only gain INTs in the 2nd half?

Realized Sark is largely a bullshit artist at pressers.

Thought the D saved us at the end. Once again the offense shit the bed in the 2nd half.
 
I'd buy that except we threw the ball plenty in the 1st half. Or does KSU only gain INTs in the 2nd half?

Realized Sark is largely a bullshit artist at pressers.

Thought the D saved us at the end. Once again the offense shit the bed in the 2nd half.
Offense moved the ball in the 2nd half. They just had drives killed by penalties and then that Worthy fumble.
 
Offense moved the ball in the 2nd half. They just had drives killed by penalties and then that Worthy fumble.

It did?

5 2nd half drives ended

  • Fumble 4 and out
  • Punt
  • Punt 3 and out
  • FG
  • Punt 3 and out
Not sure I call that "moving the ball"
 
I'd buy that except we threw the ball plenty in the 1st half. Or does KSU only gain INTs in the 2nd half?

Realized Sark is largely a bullshit artist at pressers.

Thought the D saved us at the end. Once again the offense shit the bed in the 2nd half.
Huh? You can’t be serious….

It was the first half. Of course your throw the ball, balanced attack and it worked just fine.

How you figure he’s a BS artist? All coaches have to be to a certain extent but he seems pretty genuine to me.

You obviously didn’t watch the game. Our D made Martinez look like a Heisman finalist in the second half except for one or two plays at the very end of the game. The offense did sh!t the bed second half but given how Ewers played on the road last game…and how KSU wins the turnover margin…you don’t think it was smart putting the game in the hands of a first round RB to preserve the win? That makes him a BS artist?

Im not saying it was the right move but I understand it given the circumstances.
 
I'd buy that except we threw the ball plenty in the 1st half. Or does KSU only gain INTs in the 2nd half?

Realized Sark is largely a bullshit artist at pressers.

Thought the D saved us at the end. Once again the offense shit the bed in the 2nd half.
I can't recall any presser not riddled with some sort of coach speak. They all do it, some better than others.
I do believe Sark is a bit lost as to our refusal to close out games. Pretty sure some of it is his overthinking and veering away from what got the leads in the first place.

Who really knows.... Hopefully they figure it out.
 
Huh? You can’t be serious….

It was the first half. Of course your throw the ball, balanced attack and it worked just fine.

I was talking about the 2nd half play calling, the 1st half was brilliant and what we thought we were getting, but for 60 minutes not 30.

Huh? You can’t be serious….

You obviously didn’t watch the game. Our D made Martinez look like a Heisman finalist in the second half except for one or two plays at the very end of the game.

So the D did'nt play well? I guess you missed that opening 4 and out they secured. or responding to the short field TD with a 3 and out to get the offense the ball back.

What game were you watching? (since you want to play jackass)

Odd, they held Vaugn to 3.8 yards per carrier. This is a guy held to HALF his prior 3 game average vs TEXAS.

yes they missed tackles on Martinez but Heisman candidate? They also forced 3 fumbles in the 2nd half, bad luck for us (good luck for KSU) we only secured one of them

With virtually no help from the offense in the 2nd half, the D made the plays at the end of the game to secure the win. KSU had not cross the 50 yet and was down to 24 seconds.

The offense did sh!t the bed second half

So if we won, isn't that a credit to the D for carrying the day?

but given how Ewers played on the road last game


That was last week, this is this week and Ewers had a great 1st half.

So why go away from every play that worked in the 1st half? Why stop spreading the ball around, keeping KSU's D off balance?

…you don’t think it was smart putting the game in the hands of a first round RB to preserve the win? That makes him a BS artist?

Sark takes coach speak to another level, his press conferences are largely devoid of any information.

I'm fine putting the ball in BiJan's hands but run up the middle was virtually every call. We ran twice as often as we passed in the 2nd half. Not balanced at all. Running BiJan into a 9 man box is not good play calling

Where was the 1st half mis-direction plays? Where was the WR screen or RB screen? Why didn't we target the TEs in the 2nd half? How about a jet sweep?

You obviously didn’t watch the game.

I'm not sure you did based on what you are saying.
 
Wow, you really went for it guy lol I also don’t give two sh!ts what you think I watched.

I thought we were both referring to the second half…. So you thought the D played well second half opposed to the first? You also have to defend the pass, not just the run. We did we well at that I agree. But we made Martinez look like a Heisman hopeful all second half.

I didn’t say I agreed or disagreed with the play calling. Just understand with what he said at the presser given the circumstances. Quit being so emo dude.
 
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It did?

5 2nd half drives ended

  • Fumble 4 and out
  • Punt
  • Punt 3 and out
  • FG
  • Punt 3 and out
Not sure I call that "moving the ball"
The first drive of the second half started out with a 10 yard Bijan run. The next play was a Cole Hutson false start that put them in 1st and 15. It was then followed by a 9 yard run by Bijan on 1st down and a 5 yard run on 2nd down to bring it to 3rd and 1. The next play was a Jatavion Sanders false start to bring it 3rd and 6. Quinn throws a nice pass to Worthy who picks up the 1st down but then proceeds to fumble, that's not on Sark.

The next drive was a 9 play drive that killed over 4 minutes of clock. Savion Red had a crucial false start that killed the whole drive.

The next drive there was another key false start on a 2nd down that put them in 2nd and 15. Bijan picked up 13 yards to put them in a 3rd and 2 but they couldn't convert because K State was selling out to stop the run.

Next drive was 11 plays and ran 5 minutes of clock and they got the FG. And guess what, there were no penalties. Don't think it's a coincidence the one drive they didn't turn the ball over or commit any penalties they ended up getting points.

Penalties and turnovers killed drives in the 2nd half.
 
The first drive of the second half started out with a 10 yard Bijan run. The next play was a Cole Hutson false start that put them in 1st and 15. It was then followed by a 9 yard run by Bijan on 1st down and a 5 yard run on 2nd down to bring it to 3rd and 1. The next play was a Jatavion Sanders false start to bring it 3rd and 6. Quinn throws a nice pass to Worthy who picks up the 1st down but then proceeds to fumble, that's not on Sark.

The next drive was a 9 play drive that killed over 4 minutes of clock. Savion Red had a crucial false start that killed the whole drive.

The next drive there was another key false start on a 2nd down that put them in 2nd and 15. Bijan picked up 13 yards to put them in a 3rd and 2 but they couldn't convert because K State was selling out to stop the run.

Next drive was 11 plays and ran 5 minutes of clock and they got the FG. And guess what, there were no penalties. Don't think it's a coincidence the one drive they didn't turn the ball over or commit any penalties they ended up getting points.

Penalties and turnovers killed drives in the 2nd half.

So 31 points in the 1st half (with one drive killed by a fumble)

3 points in the 2nd half.

And hardly a 1 time occurance. Over 3 road games, outscored 57 to 16 but you see no change in play calling in the 2nd half.

In fact in the 6 "biggest" games on the schedule so far, we have been outscored in the 2nd half of all but 1 of them

1st half of those 3 games we went up 86-48

PS, no one blames Sark for either fumble. Many of us see a pattern or trend which stretches back to last year.

Do you realize we are tied for WORST in FBS football in losses after blown double digit leads?
 
So 31 points in the 1st half (with one drive killed by a fumble)

3 points in the 2nd half.

And hardly a 1 time occurance. Over 3 road games, outscored 57 to 16 but you see no change in play calling in the 2nd half.

In fact in the 6 "biggest" games on the schedule so far, we have been outscored in the 2nd half of all but 1 of them

1st half of those 3 games we went up 86-48

PS, no one blames Sark for either fumble. Many of us see a pattern or trend which stretches back to last year.

Do you realize we are tied for WORST in FBS football in losses after blown double digit leads?
I challenge you to just turn the tape on and watch the 2nd half of games and see how many times the plays are there and the players just don't execute. Especially that Oklahoma State game. There were receivers running open in the middle of the field that game but Quinn was playing hero ball trying to hit the deep ball.

Can Sark be better, sure he can. But i'm telling you that all the 2nd half struggles are not his fault. I think a lot of it is due to inexperience. They are playing a ton of underclassmen. Just winning that game on the road does a lot for the mental aspect of this team. They are not far off from being an unstoppable offense.
 
Can Sark be better, sure he can. But i'm telling you that all the 2nd half struggles are not his fault.

No one said they were all his fault. Again with the binary thinking.

Certainly there are execution issues, OSU featured a QB playing with a broke hand. But Sark knew this and still called half a dozen "bombs away" plays and targeted Worthy 17 times.

Are you seriously trying to argue that after outscoring

OSU in the 1st half 31-24 then being outscored 17-3 in the 2nd half

Texas Tech Up 24-14 1st half, out scored 23-10 2nd half

KSU up 31-10 at half, outscored 17-3 2nd half

You do not see a problem there? A problem dating back to last year?

PS, Sark LOVES bombs away, he loves the big strike play. Why wasn't he coaching Quinn to throw the short and intermediate stuff? Whose in charge of that?
 
No one said they were all his fault. Again with the binary thinking.

Certainly there are execution issues, OSU featured a QB playing with a broke hand. But Sark knew this and still called half a dozen "bombs away" plays and targeted Worthy 17 times.

Are you seriously trying to argue that after outscoring

OSU in the 1st half 31-24 then being outscored 17-3 in the 2nd half

Texas Tech Up 24-14 1st half, out scored 23-10 2nd half

KSU up 31-10 at half, outscored 17-3 2nd half

You do not see a problem there? A problem dating back to last year?

PS, Sark LOVES bombs away, he loves the big strike play. Why wasn't he coaching Quinn to throw the short and intermediate stuff? Whose in charge of that?
Every route has built in check downs. Whether Ewers decides to take the check down or throw the deep ball is up to him and not Sark. Part of that is Quinn being young and trying to do too much at once. The offenses struggles have a lot to do with Sark not trusting his young QB. The fan base bitches when gets away from the run in the 2nd half. Well against K State he stuck with the run and the fan base still bitches.

He has got to find that happy medium with his run/pass splits in the 2nd half of games. As Quinn gets more experience then he will be able to lean on the pass a little more later in games.

Nobody is denying the 2nd half struggles. I just thought they had a couple of promising drives that were derailed by costly penalties.
 
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