Hi.
I will begin this fairly lengthy post with a question so those who aren’t interested in this thread don’t waste time reading the rest.
I am curious from those who will be voting for Trump as to what he would have to do for you to no longer to support him?
A few things about me:
I am a registered independent and would describe myself as socially liberal and fiscally moderate, meaning I don’t mind paying reasonable taxes for government programs that benefit society at large, even if they don’t necessarily have a direct impact on me.
When it comes to the biggest issues in this election, I’m pro choice, believe there is a border issue that needs to be addressed but we shouldn’t just be deporting millions of people, don’t think Obamacare is a great solution but shouldn’t be overturned with nothing else of substance in its place, and inflation has very much hurt and government spending is out of control, but I think the economy is actually in better shape than most people want to give it credit for.
And here are a few things I think we can all agree on, or at least 95% of us:
This election more than anything (economy, abortion, immigration, etc…) for the very vast majority of Americans will come down to whether they like or dislike Trump and who they believe he is and what he embodies as a person. Everything else is secondary.
I also believe that even the most staunch Trump supporters have likely been irked and taken aback by some of the things he’s said and done.
So that brings us back to the original question. Assuming this is an election on Trump and assuming we all believe he has done or said some off putting things, what is the actual tipping point that would push you to stop supporting him? And by support, I don’t mean you’re voting for Harris. I think at this point, anyone still supporting Trump isn’t voting for Harris. They’re likely just sitting out the election entirely.
It clearly isn’t him being convicted of a crime. He has many of those already and you can certainly argue the validity of them and whether they were fair judgements or not, I respect that, I’m just stating the fact that a felony conviction is not enough to dissuade you from supporting him.
It’s not his role, whatever it was or wasn’t, on January 6.
It’s not the loss of support from many of those who used to work for him, including his own Vice President.
So what is the line he would have to cross? It can be something personal or it can be something policy related.
Is it something as extreme as him murdering someone? Is it something policy specific, for example, if he became president and decided to support Putin and Russia or implementing Project 2025.
I believe the vast majority of Trump supporters are good people who love their country, want it to be successful and simply believe Trump is the best candidate in this election to do that. I also believe everyone has a line they wouldn’t cross with any politician, no matter how much they loved them. What is yours?
I will begin this fairly lengthy post with a question so those who aren’t interested in this thread don’t waste time reading the rest.
I am curious from those who will be voting for Trump as to what he would have to do for you to no longer to support him?
A few things about me:
I am a registered independent and would describe myself as socially liberal and fiscally moderate, meaning I don’t mind paying reasonable taxes for government programs that benefit society at large, even if they don’t necessarily have a direct impact on me.
When it comes to the biggest issues in this election, I’m pro choice, believe there is a border issue that needs to be addressed but we shouldn’t just be deporting millions of people, don’t think Obamacare is a great solution but shouldn’t be overturned with nothing else of substance in its place, and inflation has very much hurt and government spending is out of control, but I think the economy is actually in better shape than most people want to give it credit for.
And here are a few things I think we can all agree on, or at least 95% of us:
This election more than anything (economy, abortion, immigration, etc…) for the very vast majority of Americans will come down to whether they like or dislike Trump and who they believe he is and what he embodies as a person. Everything else is secondary.
I also believe that even the most staunch Trump supporters have likely been irked and taken aback by some of the things he’s said and done.
So that brings us back to the original question. Assuming this is an election on Trump and assuming we all believe he has done or said some off putting things, what is the actual tipping point that would push you to stop supporting him? And by support, I don’t mean you’re voting for Harris. I think at this point, anyone still supporting Trump isn’t voting for Harris. They’re likely just sitting out the election entirely.
It clearly isn’t him being convicted of a crime. He has many of those already and you can certainly argue the validity of them and whether they were fair judgements or not, I respect that, I’m just stating the fact that a felony conviction is not enough to dissuade you from supporting him.
It’s not his role, whatever it was or wasn’t, on January 6.
It’s not the loss of support from many of those who used to work for him, including his own Vice President.
So what is the line he would have to cross? It can be something personal or it can be something policy related.
Is it something as extreme as him murdering someone? Is it something policy specific, for example, if he became president and decided to support Putin and Russia or implementing Project 2025.
I believe the vast majority of Trump supporters are good people who love their country, want it to be successful and simply believe Trump is the best candidate in this election to do that. I also believe everyone has a line they wouldn’t cross with any politician, no matter how much they loved them. What is yours?
