Their record would have been the exact same if King would have played. He was no better than Calzada was.
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You seem like a reasonable poster for the most part but Jimbo does have to understand that of course people are going to be asking questions and speculating.
How many INTs did he throw against Akron?
The Texas 8-4feit fanfic around this class and Jimbo is amazing even for aggy.
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Wow, you truly are drinking the kool aid and have fully bought into all of Jimbo's BS. He's a blowhard. Gimme a break that "a&m would have won half of those games with King". King is a very average QB, and is really a marginal D1 QB at that. So is Johnson. Weigman is your only hope, and you never know how these kids are going to pan out, Ewers included. IMO a&m's limitation is at QB and Jimbo's out of date offense and play calling. He's too stubborn and too arrogant to see how he's holding the team back.
You mentioned in one of your other posts that "college station isn't what it used to be". Can you elaborate on that? What makes CS so attractive to kids these days? Is it because there are more chain and fast food restaurants there? No orange paint on the Home Depot, Whataburger and Hooters buildings? Seriously, what makes CS so alluring now?
To the aggy eyes, their athletic facilities are top notch. From what bad facilities they had in the past, I can understand their thinking. Its akin from moving from a single wide trailer to a more upscale home. They are good. But so are the facilities at Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, etc. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Living in College Station? Probably good for a middle income family, but I don't think that matters to big city recruits that much. The Lexington recruit is probably happy because it's close to home. All in all though, jimbo just beat other coaches...he's like a used car salesman.
If the aggys do not win the NC this year, something is wrong and changes should be made.
If the aggys do not win the NC this year, something is wrong and changes should be made.
The aggys got a great recruiting class....period. However they did it, they did it. Props to them.I would think next year rather than this year would be their best shot at a natty.
I do wonder why they are convinced their coach is so damned great? He won because of a generational QB, sorta like Gene Chizik and Mack Brown. At least Mack was winning 10 games regularly. Jimbo not only won that Natty, but he also came right back with a losing record and then flat out quit with 2 games left on the schedule. What kind of a guy does that? How can they trust him.....and then to give an out of work coach a 75 mill contract boggles the mind.
I do wonder why they are convinced their coach is so damned great? He won because of a generational QB, sorta like Gene Chizik and Mack Brown. At least Mack was winning 10 games regularly. Jimbo not only won that Natty, but he also came right back with a losing record and then flat out quit with 2 games left on the schedule. What kind of a guy does that? How can they trust him.....and then to give an out of work coach a 75 mill contract boggles the mind.
This is 100% false. Miss St and Ole Miss would have certainly been wins and LSU most likely. Arkansas they had a chance to win but honestly they just flat out didn't deserve to. King played crappy in the first half of his 1st game..then played well.
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I understand the questions. Again, I think this has been building for a while. Jimbo may be a used car salesman on the recruiting trail...aren't all of them?? All coaches are selling something. He also has some REALLY good assistants that recruit their asses off. However, I do understand the questions. Following recruiting like I do, I admitted the only 2 I was a little shocked by were Denver Harris and Evan Stewart. However, look at the other schools who recruited them and they were in shambles. If there were stability at those schools then I think Denver Harris and Evan Stewart wouldn't be Aggies.
I guess I'm referring to when A&M and Texas played each year, Texas fans who would visit College Station saw what it was then. I doubt many have been back there since. Why would they? I'm not saying College Station is some thriving metropolitan area, but I am saying it is a hell of a lot different than it used to be. There are a whole lot more nice restaurants besides fast food and more places to go. It just isn't as big of a country town that it used to be with a bunch of red necks. That whole image has changed. Don't get me wrong, they are still there, but now it is far more diverse.
You and I have disagreed on King and neither of us at this point can say one way or the other, but I have said he can win. Weigman could be a difference maker, but King OR Johnson can win with this group.
This year?? I don't know of one person that thinks A&M would win a title this year. I believe they should go 10-2 with this team though. I don't think they beat Bama and I think they slip up to someone else. The following year with this new class mostly playing mixed in with juniors and seniors from the previous 2 top 10 classes and yes that should be a year to expect a whole lot more.
He had 3 interceptions against Kent State and looked horrible against CU, then got injured. He sucked his senior year of high school too.
Come on man!
Good assessment. Begs a question though.
How the f$ck are they better prepared to prosper in this environment?
Surely our smart folks saw this coming and prepared, right?
I don’t understand why Aggies everywhere are so defensive about their success with NIL. I really don’t get it. It’s acceptable now so why don’t they just embrace it? It’s like they’re ashamed to admit they take advantage of NIL.
I get it. You're an aggy fan. You're obviously very biased and don't see a&m through the same glasses as normal people do. If you compare records, Jimbo and Sumlin are pretty close using the same amount of time that they were in CS. Jimbo hasn't won anything and just went 8-4 and ducked WF in their bowl game, knowing a&m was going to lose the game with the kids that quit on the team, err "opted out" of the bowl game. It worked out in a&m's favor last year against UNC. UNC had five or six key guys who did the same thing, yet unlike a&m, they still played the bowl game and lost. Jimbo didn't have the dignity, class or sportsmanship to do the same and used Covid as an excuse.
I find it laughable that Fisher thinks that both King and Calzada are NFL caliber QB's. Surely he doesn't think that Johnson is as well. As I've said, Weigman is your only hope at QB. If he flops, then aggy is in big trouble. Fisher has made two good coordinator hires. However, with all of his bravado and gum flapping that he's done, he needs to put up or shut up. He's not making any friends in SEC circles and whether aggy wants to admit it or not, he's put a bullseye on the gomers backs with his smack talk. What are you going to say if a&m goes 8-4 again next year? When is the honeymoon over for Fisher? He's shaken down a lot of rich a&m guys to pony up and pay players for NIL, and he better start producing, or he's going to be run out of CS. Honestly, I think his success was an anomaly at FSU. He's an 8-4, 9-3 type of coach. So far, he's proving that.
That's what's baffling me about Jimbo. I think he truly wants everyone to believe it's not about NIL, it's his ability to sell A&M to recruits.
He's good for 5 more years after that Bama win whether he wins another game or not. Just out of curiosity I checked out the A&M football facilities tour on Youtube. It's nice but to me not really anything stood out that you don't see at OU or UT? Their trophy case was rather bare when compared to OU's and UT's that's for sure.
I think we're going to see a shift in philosophy from schools about how much you really need to pay a head coach. Players will be committing to top schools based more by NIL instead of the head coach.
Because they know it isn’t actually NIL since under state of Texas NIL laws, NIL can’t be entered into until enrolled.
To me, especially with social media it’s really all about the coordinators or position coaches now. The head coach is becoming just an overpaid middle man imo
Great analysis on Jimbo. Sumlin actually accomplished more than Jimbo in their first 4 years at aggie. Jimbo is a slightly above average coach and an elite recruiter, but that’s it. His offensive play calling sucks and he’s too stubborn to have someone else call the plays.
Heck even herman won ten games in his second year at texas, Jimbo hasn’t done that yet in 4 years. I don’t know why the aggies treat him like some kind of God just because he won a natty 10 years ago. Miles and Malzahn have natties and no one is beating down their door trying to hire them.
Itll be interesting to see what happens if aggies go 8-4 again next year. They were ready to fire Jimbo after losing to Arkansas but then he beat Bama and redeemed himself.
You nailed it. Yes, aggy was ranting and ready to fire Jimbo after the Arkansas game. It was hilarious. Looking at their schedule for this season, I've got them with at least three losses (Arkansas, Alabama, and they'll lose at least one or two more to Miss St., Miss, Auburn or LSU). Once again, other than Miami, their non-conference schedule is a absolute joke (Sam Houston, App State and UMass) and they have yet again seven home games.
They've invested so much cash into him and probably don't want to be any more of an embarrassment. Jimbo more or less owns aggyland. Sumlin trumps Fisher for sure. With the talent they've recruited in 2 years and with the use of the portal, if they don't win the NC this year, even w jimbo, something is terribly wrong. No excuses aggys.
They lost 9 defensive starters. Lost Elko (top 20 DC). Brand New DC. New OL coach. King sucks. Johnson sucks. They might have to go with weigman who hasn’t taken a college snap yet. Their defense has been their strength the past few years with Elko, now they have durkin who had a bad defense last year at ole miss.
Im thinking another 8-4 type year for aggie is pretty realistic.
