Just Finished a Book About Takur Ghar

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Since I'm up at night with a half sleeping, teething child, I figured I'd read a few books.

I just finished one written by Captain Nathan Self, Platoon leader Company A 1st Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment.

It's his autobiography called Two Wars.
He talks about the PTSD he's suffered from after leaving the service mainly because of the battle he experienced in March of 2002 on a mountain called Takur Ghar.
Now that some of this stuff is starting to be declassified more frequently, we are getting a better sense of what an absolute meat grinder the war in Afghanistan really was and what a sh!t show some of the battlefield tactics were especially early in the war. Turns out, fighting in the mountains at 11,000 feet elevation in 3 feet of snow is a little more complicated than the brass at the Pentagon thought.

I know @GuaranteedFresh! told us way back that his base went on lock down during 9/11 and shortly after he was in country- but were you still in country when this went down? Were you privy to any of this? Because man, this was a literal bare knuckles brawl that Captain Self describes.
Back home the media coverage was "Ya, we're bombing the sh!t outta the Mooj and cleaning out the mountain roaches like Orkin." But this dude makes it sound like the Taliban were dug in so tight that our boys needed a crowbar to get them out.
 
Since I'm up at night with a half sleeping, teething child, I figured I'd read a few books.

I just finished one written by Captain Nathan Self, Platoon leader Company A 1st Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment.

It's his autobiography called Two Wars.
He talks about the PTSD he's suffered from after leaving the service mainly because of the battle he experienced in March of 2002 on a mountain called Takur Ghar.
Now that some of this stuff is starting to be declassified more frequently, we are getting a better sense of what an absolute meat grinder the war in Afghanistan really was and what a sh!t show some of the battlefield tactics were especially early in the war. Turns out, fighting in the mountains at 11,000 feet elevation in 3 feet of snow is a little more complicated than the brass at the Pentagon thought.

I know @GuaranteedFresh! told us way back that his base went on lock down during 9/11 and shortly after he was in country- but were you still in country when this went down? Were you privy to any of this? Because man, this was a literal bare knuckles brawl that Captain Self describes.
Back home the media coverage was "Ya, we're bombing the sh!t outta the Mooj and cleaning out the mountain roaches like Orkin." But this dude makes it sound like the Taliban were dug in so tight that our boys needed a crowbar to get them out.
No, I was not part of Roberts Ridge but it definitely effected engagement strategies moving forward. Imagine a mountain as a block of cheese and in every hole is an ant or 2. You can easily clear out individual ants but you can't target them all at once. Meanwhile, they all can target you.

We lost 6 or 7 operators and a handful more wounded. From what I've heard, it wasn't much different than stepping foot on Iwo Jima when the caves came alive.
 
read "we were soldiers then and Young"

Bad command decisions plus bad intell plus unfounded over confidence equals disaster
 
That "we were soldiers....." was made into a movie with Mel Gibson....pretty good flic about one of the first MAJOR battles in Vietnam. about a company sent out on a "search and destroy" mission in an area of some reported Viet Cong activity. The landing zone picked for them happened to be smack on top of a huge tunnel complex which was headquarters for a VC Batallion or maybe even a Brigade.

What was supposed to be a Police action ended in a multi day meat grinder.
 
That "we were soldiers....." was made into a movie with Mel Gibson....pretty good flic about one of the first MAJOR battles in Vietnam. about a company sent out on a "search and destroy" mission in an area of some reported Viet Cong activity. The landing zone picked for them happened to be smack on top of a huge tunnel complex which was headquarters for a VC Batallion or maybe even a Brigade.

What was supposed to be a Police action ended in a multi day meat grinder.
I got to meet Joe Galloway many years ago at a function in Austin. He'd written that book a couple years before and I got to sit and listen to him talk about his experiences. He used to work in Victoria for the Advocate (newspaper), but he had a little place outside of Refugio. I told him where I was from and we knew some of the same families. He was very open about what happened. It was an interesting 45 minutes or so.
 
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