His last 4 years was 30-23 and in conference was 18-17 . His overall record against top 20 teams was barely above .500 and against Top 10 had a losing record. Luckily had two of the greatest 4th quarter comeback artists in Vince and Colt or he would have been fired much sooner . He constantly out talented teams but rarely out coached any with and now we have Mack 2.0 aka Tommy Herman !