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Maybe some of you morons will listen to Dan Neil

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no i didnt. because calling people names is not a way to get people to agree with you.
 
Well yea that explains it all. Everyone gets a pass a player got injured. Only if we had that guy that won a title with a 3rd string QB.
 
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Texas went 1-1 with Connor, lost to Maryland & only had 3 offensive TDs in that game.

Texas went 4-4 without him, counting USC. But, our offense actually performed better against USC without Connor (2 TDs vs 1 TD).

Sorry, it’s not all on Connor or the offensive line. The stats prove it as FACT.

You actually think the reason why Texas’ offense performed better in the fourth quarter of the USC game was because Connor was out?
 
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You actually think the reason why Texas’ offense performed better in the fourth quarter of the USC game was because Connor was out?
I think he was just pointing out that the offense was better after he got hurt. Not necessarily saying that was the reason it was better.
 
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I think he was just pointing out that the offense was better after he got hurt. Not necessarily saying that was the reason it was better.
Yes, you are correct. 1 player doesn’t make/break a team unless the coaches are poor - especially for the season.

Our offense struggled mightily against Tech with Connor too.
 
Go back to the article and read the section about the importance of continuity on the Oline and the amount of time necessary for a high school Oline man to transition to college football.

Then realize that we didn't just lose CW's this season. We lost 80% of our projected starting Oline for a significant portion of the season.

We started like 9 or 10 different Oline combinations.

Then realize that our depth chart is not made up of a bunch of 4 and 5 star linemen. (Look it up)

But don't believe me, believe the former AA Texas Longhorn that spent over a decade starting for the Denver Broncos.
 
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Dan is being a bit modest when he says he wasn't strong or had great foot work. I watched him play a playoff game on a Saturday in high school after my team played a Friday game. He crushed everyone.

He was so nimble he could do the splits.... like a gymnast. His hand were incredibly quick and he was strong as an oxen----- trust me on this one. I HATED doing pass rush drills against him. If he got one hand on your chest, you were dead in the water. Yes, he was short and had short arms, but he was a legit man child.


Look, Williams can play. And that's all that matters. The rest of our oline is average at best.

Yes, we lost a ton of games because of poor line play.
Yes, it's important to recruit great lineman.
I'm sure our coaches felt they were doing just that.
But you must also develop them. And THAT is where we are failing miserably.
 
Dan is being a bit modest when he says he wasn't strong or had great foot work. I watched him play a playoff game on a Saturday in high school after my team played a Friday game. He crushed everyone.

He was so nimble he could do the splits.... like a gymnast. His hand were incredibly quick and he was strong as an oxen----- trust me on this one. I HATED doing pass rush drills against him. If he got one hand on your chest, you were dead in the water. Yes, he was short and had short arms, but he was a legit man child.


Look, Williams can play. And that's all that matters. The rest of our oline is average at best.

Yes, we lost a ton of games because of poor line play.
Yes, it's important to recruit great lineman.
I'm sure our coaches felt they were doing just that.
But you must also develop them. And THAT is where we are failing miserably.

I agree completely, but I'm not going to crush a coach because he has been dealt a shitty hand. I'm going to wait until he has an opportunity to fix it. Neil explains all of that.
 
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I wonder if Dan Neil ever considered coaching. I wouldn't mind seeing him coach the o line, I bet he would be a god recruiter as well.
 
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I wonder if Dan Neil ever considered coaching. I wouldn't mind seeing him coach the o line, I bet he would be a god recruiter as well.
Dan is a quiet and thoughtul guy. Doesn't like being the center of attention. Recruiting wouldn't be his strong suit. Coaching, for sure. Just not recruiting.
 
Dan is a quiet and thoughtul guy. Doesn't like being the center of attention. Recruiting wouldn't be his strong suit. Coaching, for sure. Just not recruiting.

He didn't play like quiet and thoughtful guy. If our Oline played like him, they would be mean, nasty, and play to the echo of the whistle.
 
Dan is a quiet and thoughtul guy. Doesn't like being the center of attention. Recruiting wouldn't be his strong suit. Coaching, for sure. Just not recruiting.

Just seeing him on TV he seems well spoken and a stand up guy. If I had a son who was an o lineman I would mind him playing for Dan.
 
If he wants to coach he ought to be considered. Seems like he could really develop kids. As far as recruiting eh not every assistant had to be a stud recruiter.
 
Go back to the article and read the section about the importance of continuity on the Oline and the amount of time necessary for a high school Oline man to transition to college football.

Then realize that we didn't just lose CW's this season. We lost 80% of our projected starting Oline for a significant portion of the season.

We started like 9 or 10 different Oline combinations.

Then realize that our depth chart is not made up of a bunch of 4 and 5 star linemen. (Look it up)

But don't believe me, believe the former AA Texas Longhorn that spent over a decade starting for the Denver Broncos.
Read that part...but, that is where planning & preparing for worst case scenario comes in.

First, this team was underperforming on offense BEFORE the injuries began. Second, this line has the same guys back next next season, minus our injured & underperforming Connor. Prepare for 6-6 again.

Look, the injuries are not responsible for 6-6.

If we were so close to suckage, why was everyone predicting 8-9 wins? Was everyone expecting a perfect storm & all our guys to stay healthy? That’s unrealistic.
 
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Read that part...but, that is where planning & preparing for worst case scenario comes in.

First, this team was underperforming on offense BEFORE the injuries began. Second, this line has the same guys back next next season, minus our injured & underperforming Connor. Prepare for 6-6 again.

Look, the injuries are not responsible for 6-6.

If we were so close to suckage, why was everyone predicting 8-9 wins? Was everyone expecting a perfect storm & all our guys to stay healthy? That’s unrealistic.

I agree. Without coaching, it could have been a lot worse.
 
Go back to the article and read the section about the importance of continuity on the Oline and the amount of time necessary for a high school Oline man to transition to college football.

Then realize that we didn't just lose CW's this season. We lost 80% of our projected starting Oline for a significant portion of the season.

We started like 9 or 10 different Oline combinations.

Then realize that our depth chart is not made up of a bunch of 4 and 5 star linemen. (Look it up)

But don't believe me, believe the former AA Texas Longhorn that spent over a decade starting for the Denver Broncos.


Do not let facts get in the way of a good argument. The majority of this site, including some/most mods have lost their minds.
 
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Maybe this was a 6-6 team from the start with a shot at a better record if a lot of chips fell their way? Maybe they were overrated?
 
First, this team was underperforming on offense BEFORE the injuries began. Second, this line has the same guys back next next season, minus our injured & underperforming Connor. Prepare for 6-6 again.

Say what???....Damned injuries began before the first snap.(Rodriguez). They then just started piling on.
 
Read that part...but, that is where planning & preparing for worst case scenario comes in.

First, this team was underperforming on offense BEFORE the injuries began. Second, this line has the same guys back next next season, minus our injured & underperforming Connor. Prepare for 6-6 again.

Look, the injuries are not responsible for 6-6.

If we were so close to suckage, why was everyone predicting 8-9 wins? Was everyone expecting a perfect storm & all our guys to stay healthy? That’s unrealistic.

"If we were so close to suckage, why was everyone predicting 8-9 wins?"

We WERE suckage. Texas has had a losing record for three straight seasons. A bunch of fans predicting 8-9 wins doesn't mean squat. Fans of teams set unlikely predictions and if not met they have overreactions.

The non-fan sports writers mostly predicted 6-6 to 8-4. No one would ever predict that nobody will get injured, but the level of injury to every single starter and all but one second team player on the entire roster of QB, OL, AND TE is unpredictable and there is no planning for that. Now that is a perfect storm. That is highly abnormal.

If you would have told the sports writers (or us fans) before the season to also make predictions under the scenario that C. Williams, the starting RT and the starting TE will all miss most or all of the season plus Shane will be injured by the second game of the season EVERYONE's predictions would have been tempered. My goodness, if someone had told me before the season that Terrel Cunney, Kerstetter, and Nickelson would have to start almost the whole season my head would have exploded. But with fans (fanatics) like us once a loss happens it's hard to think straight.

The coaches just don't have much to work with on offense especially after the injuries. Is there more than maybe one or two players (if that) on the entire offense that could start at OU, TCU, WVU, OSU right now?
 
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Say what???....Damned injuries began before the first snap.(Rodriguez). They then just started piling on.
Regardless, the offensive line did not improve this year - the players did not improve.

Rodriguez had surgery in mid August for a high ankle sprain. Shackleford had the same problem in the spring. Why?

The coaches need to perform a risk assessment (like we do in the military) before a dangerous or physical activity. We want strong players. But, we need them available on game day. Maybe there is a problem with the training if so many are getting injured.
 
Regardless, the offensive line did not improve this year - the players did not improve.

Rodriguez had surgery in mid August for a high ankle sprain. Shackleford had the same problem in the spring. Why?

The coaches need to perform a risk assessment (like we do in the military) before a dangerous or physical activity. We want strong players. But, we need them available on game day. Maybe there is a problem with the training if so many are getting injured.

So now you're blaming the coaches for injuries?
 
"If we were so close to suckage, why was everyone predicting 8-9 wins?"

We WERE suckage. Texas has had a losing record for three straight seasons. A bunch of fans predicting 8-9 wins doesn't mean squat. Fans of teams set unlikely predictions and if not met they have overreactions.

The non-fan sports writers mostly predicted 6-6 to 8-4. No one would ever predict that nobody will get injured, but the level of injury to every single starter and all but one second team player on the entire roster of QB, OL, AND TE is unpredictable and there is no planning for that. Now that is a perfect storm. That is highly abnormal.

If you would have told the sports writers (or us fans) before the season to also make predictions under the scenario that C. Williams, the starting RT and the starting TE will all miss most or all of the season plus Shane will be injured by the second game of the season EVERYONE's predictions would have been tempered. My goodness, if someone had told me before the season that Terrel Cunney, Kerstetter, and Nickelson would have to start almost the whole season my head would have exploded. But with fans (fanatics) like us once a loss happens it's hard to think straight.

The coaches just don't have much to work with on offense especially after the injuries. Is there more than maybe one or two players (if that) on the entire offense that could start at OU, TCU, WVU, OSU right now?
Why are the players all of a sudden getting injured before games? Did this happen when Strong was here? What about Mack?

I only ask because when there is a spike in injuries resulting from practice, training, & team work outs, I question the staff’s effort to properly assess the risk.

How? Know your players & their limits. Know how to ramp up a routine, accordingly.

Failing to know the players strengths & weaknesses was evident by the offensive play calling.
 
So now you're blaming the coaches for injuries?
Not blaming, but not relieving them of blame.

The coaches could have put the players in a position that was more likely to get them injured. It’s worth investigating. I read that certain Strength & Conditioning coaches are known to have more injured players than others.
 
Not blaming, but not relieving them of blame.

The coaches could have put the players in a position that was more likely to get them injured. It’s worth investigating. I read that certain Strength & Conditioning coaches are known to have more injured players than others.

I agree. The coaches should only call injury free plays in the future.
 
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Here are fans from Iowa State & Houston (Yancy McNight’s 2 prior jobs), talking about the spike in injuries under McNight.

Likewise, both schools fan bases say they are experiencing fewer injuries now, particularly on the offensive line.
 

Here are fans from Iowa State & Houston (Yancy McNight’s 2 prior jobs), talking about the spike in injuries under McNight.

Likewise, both schools fan bases say they are experiencing fewer injuries now, particularly on the offensive line.

If this comes from megamanxzero35, it must be legitimate.

Seriously. At least 2 of our Olinemen (Majors and Williams), got rolled up on during a play. S&C has nothing to do with that. Sam got concussed when he was slammed to the ground.

They aren't playing flag football.
 
If this comes from megamanxzero35, it must be legitimate.

Seriously. At least 2 of our Olinemen (Majors and Williams), got rolled up on during a play. S&C has nothing to do with that. Sam got concussed when he was slammed to the ground.

They aren't playing flag football.
We have the same depth problems next year. I see 6-6 or 7-5 next year.
 
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