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Our OL is below average. The Center, RG and RT are inconsistent to be kind.

If you don’t have at least an above average OL then you don’t have good QB play. QBs get gun shy. It doesn’t matter who is back there. Eventually they will succumb to the porous OL play

Gilbert. Ash. Bue. Sam. Thompson. Ewers.
The line has been above average pass blocking this year. Run blocking has been their issue. I don’t think the line has been bad at all though.
 
Colt McCoy had as good of a freshman season as any that I can remember. Completed 68% of his passes and threw 29 tds to only 7 interceptions with a 161 rating. VY was a different story. He wasn’t a very good passer his first year but he more than made up for his flaws with his legs.

The thing with Ewers is he has regressed drastically since that OU game. He’s not reading defenses and he’s pre determining where he’s going to throw the ball pre snap. It’s exactly why he’s forcing it to Worthy so much. That’s worrisome. I think Sark should have tried Card last night just to see.

On top of that Sark is doing him no favors. He needs to just ditch the deep stuff for a week and integrate more quick game. The little bit of WR screens we threw last night were working really well.

Sark needs to really think about letting someone else call plays. I just don’t think he’s cut out to handle the play calling and head coaching duties. It’s too much for him. I believe that’s why he has trouble adjusting in game.
Agreed about letting someone else call plays. Herman realized this and then hired Yurcich. Has there ever been a HC that was successful calling their own offensive plays? Off the top of my head there has been Herman, Sark, Jimbo, Bill O Brien, Gary Kubiak. None had much success calling their own plays.
 
When you have the ball inside the 5 yard line for 1st and goal and you can't line up, get heavy and punch it in-- you've got some serious issues.

If we had ANY form of runblocking at all, we win that game. But we don't. We are soft upfront.
 
When you have the ball inside the 5 yard line for 1st and goal and you can't line up, get heavy and punch it in-- you've got some serious issues.

If we had ANY form of runblocking at all, we win that game. But we don't. We are soft upfront.
The C, LG,RG, and RT are all major liabilities in the run game. Only consistent player on the line this year has been Banks. There’s some young guys that deserve some reps. I noticed DJ Campbell got some reps at RG last night.
 
The line has been above average pass blocking this year. Run blocking has been their issue. I don’t think the line has been bad at all though.

Disagree. As a unit they have been average. Banks has been above average in Pass Pro

I'm telling you, if you have 1 bad o-lineman, you have a bad OL. You have to have 5 guys playing at at least an average level if not slightly above average. We haven't had that in some time.
 
Agreed about letting someone else call plays. Herman realized this and then hired Yurcich. Has there ever been a HC that was successful calling their own offensive plays? Off the top of my head there has been Herman, Sark, Jimbo, Bill O Brien, Gary Kubiak. None had much success calling their own plays.

Riley calls his own plays. Leach does, or did for a long time.
 
Some OL numbers per PFF

This doesn't include games from yesterday. And it also leaves out many variables like amount of opportunities, last few games, etc. For example, a player could have 2 elite games and 7 shitty games, but still have a decent overall grade.

That said, it is a good look to target some issues with this offense. And many of them are exactly what I have been saying....however one guy has graded much higher than expected.

Centers

Majors is #1 in the Big 12 in pass pro
Majors is #8 in the Big 12 in run game

Only 10 Centers have qualified via minimum snaps

Guards

Conner is #11 in Big 12 in pass pro
Hutson is #22 in Big 12 in pass pro

Only 22 Guards have qualified via minimum snaps

Hutson is #20 in Big 12 in run game
Conner is #22 in Big 12 in run game

Only 23 Guards have qualified via minimum snaps

Tackles

Banks is #4 in Big 12 in pass pro
Jones is #5 in Big 12 in pass pro

Only 24 Tackles have qualified via minimum snaps

Jones is #11 in Big 12 in run game
Banks is #15 in Big 12 in run game

Only 24 Tackles have qualified via minimum snaps
 
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Some OL numbers per PFF

This doesn't include games from yesterday. And it also leaves out many variables like amount of opportunities, last few games, etc. For example, a player could have 2 elite games and 7 shitty games, but still have a decent overall grade.

That said, it is a good look to target some issues with this offense. And many of them are exactly what I have been saying....however one guy has graded much higher than expected.

Centers

Majors is #1 in the Big 12 in pass pro
Majors is #8 in the Big 12 in run game

Only 10 Centers have qualified via minimum snaps

Guards

Conner is #11 in Big 12 in pass pro
Hutson is #22 in Big 12 in pass pro

Only 22 Guards have qualified via minimum snaps

Hutson is #20 in Big 12 in run game
Conner is #22 in Big 12 in run game

Only 23 Guards have qualified via minimum snaps

Tackles

Banks is #4 in Big 12 in pass pro
Jones is #5 in Big 12 in pass pro

Only 24 Tackles have qualified via minimum snaps

Jones is #11 in Big 12 in run game
Banks is #15 in Big 12 in run game

Only 24 Tackles have qualified via minimum snaps
Everyone but Hutson is above average by those numbers is the way I’m seeing it. That’s pretty accurate with what I have seen as well.

Now the run blocking is a different story.
 
Everyone but Hutson is above average by those numbers is the way I’m seeing it. That’s pretty accurate with what I have seen as well.

Now the run blocking is a different story.

Center 1-2 is elite, 3-4 is above average, 5-7 is average, 8-10 is below average
Guard/Tackle 1-3 is elite, 4-8 is above average, 9-14 is average, 15+ is below average

We are below average at Guard...like, not good.

Again...you can't have 2 players out of 5 on the OL playing below average and have an above average unit. That is not how OL works.

So....we have a below average OL and have for some time. And they, individually, are below average in run game. Not being able to run block nor protect in the middle will make QBs gun shy, as we have seen for about 12/13 years now.
 
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TCU won't lose a game. They'll end up undefeated and they deserve to be in the CFP. Just don't want to see two SEC teams in the CFP. No team is beating Georgia though.
I think Ohio State would with its offense. Still hoping for a Michigan - TCU final. I think the loser of Michigan -Ohio State will beat out Tennessee for the fourth spot.
 
Center 1-2 is elite, 3-4 is above average, 5-7 is average, 8-10 is below average
Guard/Tackle 1-3 is elite, 4-8 is above average, 9-14 is average, 15+ is below average

We are below average at Guard...like, not good.

Again...you can't have 2 players out of 5 on the OL playing below average and have an above average unit. That is not how OL works.

So....we have a below average OL and have for some time. And they, individually, are below average in run game. Not being able to run block nor protect in the middle will make QBs gun shy, as we have seen for about 12/13 years now.
This.

Until Texas can lineup and convert 3-2 on a consistent basis, we will never be where we want. As good as Bijan and Rojo are, you can't be successful when you are dodging defenders behind the line of scrimmage.
 
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Just got through re watching the game and my 1 big takeaway is that the defense played it's ass off. One guy that really stood out to me was Terrance Brooks. He did a hell of a job all night and i'm not so sure that I would go back with Jamison if he's healthy next week. The defensive line kicked TCU's offensive line's ass all night pretty much except for that one long run Miller had. If you take away that 75 yard run he had he was at 3.1 yards per carry.

It's really frustrating because this team is so damn close to being a really good team. I just don't have any faith Sark is the guy to get us over the hump.
 
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This.

Until Texas can lineup and convert 3-2 on a consistent basis, we will never be where we want. As good as Bijan and Rojo are, you can't be successful when you are dodging defenders behind the line of scrimmage.
A lot of that is teams selling out to stop the run. They know Quinn can't beat them with his arm. It's hard to run the ball when teams are putting 7 to 8 guys in the box consistently. This year was always going to be a struggle starting 2 true freshman and 2 sophomores.
 
Just got through re watching the game and my 1 big takeaway is that the defense played it's ass off. One guy that really stood out to me was Terrance Brooks. He did a hell of a job all night and i'm not so sure that I would go back with Jamison if he's healthy next week. The defensive line kicked TCU's offensive line's ass all night pretty much except for that one long run Miller had. If you take away that 75 yard run he had he was at 3.1 yards per carry.

It's really frustrating because this team is so damn close to being a really good team. I just don't have any faith Sark is the guy to get us over the hump.


That one big run was on Dorsey and whoever the sideline safety was...can't remember. Bad fits

Kudos for watching that game again, lol.
 
A lot of that is teams selling out to stop the run. They know Quinn can't beat them with his arm. It's hard to run the ball when teams are putting 7 to 8 guys in the box consistently. This year was always going to be a struggle starting 2 true freshman and 2 sophomores.

My man...7 guys in the box isn't why we can't lock up the dudes we're supposed to block. 7 guys in the box isn't why there are dudes in the backfield when a RB gets a handoff.

QB misses guys, but WR need to get separation or at least win a 50/50 once in a while. Drops don't help. I didn't see hardly and quick throws called Saturday, whether they were to the sideline or from the slot. Saw a lot of vertical routes...a lot.
 
My man...7 guys in the box isn't why we can't lock up the dudes we're supposed to block. 7 guys in the box isn't why there are dudes in the backfield when a RB gets a handoff.

QB misses guys, but WR need to get separation or at least win a 50/50 once in a while. Drops don't help. I didn't see hardly and quick throws called Saturday, whether they were to the sideline or from the slot. Saw a lot of vertical routes...a lot.
The quick throws they did use were successful. Whittington had a couple of nice plays off the screen plays. That's why it was so maddening to see them just completely get away from it. Brennan Thompson has elite track speed. The one time Sark decided to use him against Ok St. he picks up 40 yards on a screen pass and we haven't seen him since. Savion Red has had a couple of nice picks ups as well. I just don't get it.

I hate to say it but I think this team is 9-1 with Tom Herman as the coach. From what I saw I think this loss is on Sark for the most part.
 
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The quick throws they did use were successful. Whittington had a couple of nice plays off the screen plays. That's why it was so maddening to see them just completely get away from it. Brennan Thompson has elite track speed. The one time Sark decided to use him against Ok St. he picks up 40 yards on a screen pass and we haven't seen him since. Savion Red has had a couple of nice picks ups as well. I just don't get it.

I hate to say it but I think this team is 9-1 with Tom Herman as the coach. From what I saw I think this loss is on Sark for the most part.

Texas doesn't have a lot of those offensive skill/OL guys if Herman is at Texas though. So I guess it is moot.
 
Texas doesn't have a lot of those offensive skill/OL guys if Herman is at Texas though. So I guess it is moot.
Ya I guess that is very true. But I just feel like with this current constructed roster that Herman would do a better job of utilizing this talent. I can't remember Herman having any big games like the one from Saturday and just getting absolutely embarrassed though. I'm just so over Sark at this point. He just doesn't seem to get it.

Another thing I was going to note was that the one drive DJ Campbell came in was the drive we went down the field and got 3 points. I didn't realize that until I watched it again this morning. May be time to give some of these younger guys an opportunity on the line.
 
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Ya I guess that is very true. But I just feel like with this current constructed roster that Herman would do a better job of utilizing this talent. I can't remember Herman having any big games like the one from Saturday and just getting absolutely embarrassed though. I'm just so over Sark at this point. He just doesn't seem to get it.

Another thing I was going to note was that the one drive DJ Campbell came in was the drive we went down the field and got 3 points. I didn't realize that until I watched it again this morning. May be time to give some of these younger guys an opportunity on the line.

DJ Campbell played 12 snaps. PFF graded him an 80 in pass pro. Way, way above what we have seen from our guards.
 
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Why over the last 3 games have we moved away from slants, RPOs, screens bubble routes...jet sweeps ( we ran one last week)...

These things get the ball in your play makers hands and help put a young QB in rhythm. Gather some confidence. It just blows my mind the plays that are called over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
 
Highest graded run block was actually Cole Hutson at 63.9, which is, well, not good.

Christian Jones had the highest grade in Zone blocking scheme at 67.5, which still sucks.

We can't freaking run block man.
Run blocking was so atrocious. It's really weird. We ran the ball a lot better against Iowa State, Ok. St., and K State and their fronts are night and day better than TCU's.
 
Run blocking was so atrocious. It's really weird. We ran the ball a lot better against Iowa State, Ok. St., and K State and their fronts are night and day better than TCU's.
TCU didn't care about Ewers passing. Their LBs played up and didn't give us any room to run. That is what happens when we can't complete anything downfield.
 
Run blocking was so atrocious. It's really weird. We ran the ball a lot better against Iowa State, Ok. St., and K State and their fronts are night and day better than TCU's.

We haven't graded even slightly above average in run blocking in any game this year. It was getting slightly better overall since the WVU game, but the TCU game was a huge step backward.
 
We haven't graded even slightly above average in run blocking in any game this year. It was getting slightly better overall since the WVU game, but the TCU game was a huge step backward.
I don’t always agree with PFF’s grades myself. I know there have been a couple of games where we controlled the LOS. Iowa State is the one that sticks out to me. That game winning drive we ran it right down their throat. The first half of the OSU and K State game as well. They just haven’t really 4 full quarters together yet.
 
I don’t always agree with PFF’s grades myself. I know there have been a couple of games where we controlled the LOS. Iowa State is the one that sticks out to me. That game winning drive we ran it right down their throat. The first half of the OSU and K State game as well. They just haven’t really 4 full quarters together yet.

The only grades I would trust 100% we unfortunately don't have access too, lol. That would be Flood's :)

So PFF it is. If I had more time I would critique every offensive snap, but I have to teach these clowns government
 
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I feel like we go through this every year or almost every week. Idk what Sark don't see that we can or not focusing on.
Sark has a ego..which i like...but if he doesn't get it in check..and back to more "confident" level than a arrogant lvl..it will be the end of him.
 
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