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No....I was transportation corps. ....SOMEBODY had to haul those crazy Rangers to their planes....

I was the OIC of the TMP (post motor pool). In those days....to give ya'll some perspective....We operated 16 to 21 sedans every damned day of the week on what we called casualty runs. That was where an officer and a sargent had to in person inform a wife or mother that their son/husband had been killed in Vietnam. Think about that....just in the area within 150 miles of Ft Bragg 16 to 21 every damned day of the week. That did not even include the number wounded......So much tradgedy ....every damned day.....and for what?

For nothing!

Hook'em
 
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Ho Chi Min's political hero was Thomas Jefferson. Our dumbassed leadership screwed us big time there.

I have a friend that is an author. He does not even blink when he says that the only reason for that war was to make a few guys rich. No stratigic importance in Vietnam at all.In fact the Vietnamise would have been a good buffer for China. The reason the FBI and CIA had Kennedy killed was he was going to pull us out.
I found the background on Ho Chi Min educational. Very strange that a guy that admired Jefferson could allow the suppression of freedoms that occurred in NVN.
 
I found the background on Ho Chi Min educational. Very strange that a guy that admired Jefferson could allow the suppression of freedoms that occurred in NVN.
I don't disagree. I think he was a victim of his circumstances. He wanted one thing for his country, but he needed resources to complete that. By the time he got the resources, it was clear they came with strings attached. Those strings were......... Soviet and Chinese influence. He chose the lesser of two evils and still ended up with an evil choice.
 
I tried to watch the documentary. Couldn't finish, I thought it was too slanted. I once worked with a doctor who had been a GMO in Vietnam. Ted had gone to Rice on a ROTC scholarship in the 50s. Joined the marines, then UDT. Then medical school, Vietnam. He was at Hue for the Tet offensive. When the communists took Hue, they ordered the school teachers, nurses, police to report for "reeducation ". When they showed up, they were forced to dig their own graves and executed. We killed maybe 80% of local insurgents. South Vietnamese hated the VC. None of this occurred to Walter Cronkite, who proclaimed the war lost. To understand what happened, read Eleni and David Horowitz 's The 60s, the destructive generation. Eleni is about the Greek civil war. I never realized why people fought for communism. They fought to try to survive the ruthlessness of atheistic communism. Horowitz exposes the anti war movement from within. All of the leaders of SDS except Tom Hayden were "red diaper babies." They actually went to a socialist elementary school in New York. They weren't anti war, they were pro communist. The rank and file was smoking dope and didn't want to be drafted. When we left, the killing began. It wasn't just Cambodia. Every nation taken by the communists suffered a massacre.
 
I tried to watch the documentary. Couldn't finish, I thought it was too slanted. I once worked with a doctor who had been a GMO in Vietnam. Ted had gone to Rice on a ROTC scholarship in the 50s. Joined the marines, then UDT. Then medical school, Vietnam. He was at Hue for the Tet offensive. When the communists took Hue, they ordered the school teachers, nurses, police to report for "reeducation ". When they showed up, they were forced to dig their own graves and executed. We killed maybe 80% of local insurgents. South Vietnamese hated the VC. None of this occurred to Walter Cronkite, who proclaimed the war lost. To understand what happened, read Eleni and David Horowitz 's The 60s, the destructive generation. Eleni is about the Greek civil war. I never realized why people fought for communism. They fought to try to survive the ruthlessness of atheistic communism. Horowitz exposes the anti war movement from within. All of the leaders of SDS except Tom Hayden were "red diaper babies." They actually went to a socialist elementary school in New York. They weren't anti war, they were pro communist. The rank and file was smoking dope and didn't want to be drafted. When we left, the killing began. It wasn't just Cambodia. Every nation taken by the communists suffered a massacre.


Viva the 2nd amendment. It's a good thing that the freedom loving Americans own 80-90% of the guns in America because those same communists are among us.
 
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I tried to watch the documentary. Couldn't finish, I thought it was too slanted. I once worked with a doctor who had been a GMO in Vietnam. Ted had gone to Rice on a ROTC scholarship in the 50s. Joined the marines, then UDT. Then medical school, Vietnam. He was at Hue for the Tet offensive. When the communists took Hue, they ordered the school teachers, nurses, police to report for "reeducation ". When they showed up, they were forced to dig their own graves and executed. We killed maybe 80% of local insurgents. South Vietnamese hated the VC. None of this occurred to Walter Cronkite, who proclaimed the war lost. To understand what happened, read Eleni and David Horowitz 's The 60s, the destructive generation. Eleni is about the Greek civil war. I never realized why people fought for communism. They fought to try to survive the ruthlessness of atheistic communism. Horowitz exposes the anti war movement from within. All of the leaders of SDS except Tom Hayden were "red diaper babies." They actually went to a socialist elementary school in New York. They weren't anti war, they were pro communist. The rank and file was smoking dope and didn't want to be drafted. When we left, the killing began. It wasn't just Cambodia. Every nation taken by the communists suffered a massacre.
I'll never understand communist sympathizers. I used to date a woman that was born in Poland behind the iron curtain. She was made to learn Russian in grade school (obviously polish as well). I speak enough Russian to get me slapped or start a war, and she simply refused to talk to me in Russian. She spoke fluent english, but sometimes if we were in a crowded place and I wanted to tell her something--- like make fun of someone without whispering and looking suspicious, I'd just say it to her in Russian. I always got a crappy look when I spoke russian...... her father was a lawyer and her mother was a politician---- so she grew up "priveledged" by community standards---- yet she still said it was hell. To this day she still hates communism.
 
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I'll never understand communist sympathizers. I used to date a woman that was born in Poland behind the iron curtain. She was made to learn Russian in grade school (obviously polish as well). I speak enough Russian to get me slapped or start a war, and she simply refused to talk to me in Russian. She spoke fluent english, but sometimes if we were in a crowded place and I wanted to tell her something--- like make fun of someone without whispering and looking suspicious, I'd just say it to her in Russian. I always got a crappy look when I spoke russian...... her father was a lawyer and her mother was a politician---- so she grew up "priveledged" by community standards---- yet she still said it was hell. To this day she still hates communism.
Read Eleni. She lived in northern Greece. Her husband was a waiter in Massachusetts. He made much more money than anyone else in the village. When the communists came, he advised her to stay and watch the children and their property. When the communists lost, they decided to take the village children to Albania to raise them as the vanguard of the new socialist utopia. Eleni planned her children's escape, but got drafted for a work detail. She was arrested, tortured, tried, and executed. Her children made it to America. The youngest, Nicholas, graduated Columbia, went to work for the New York times. Became head of the Athens bureau. Tracked down the judge who tried his mother. The account will help you understand socialist success. There's one chapter on the role of the village teacher, always the main instigator.
 
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Read Eleni. She lived in northern Greece. Her husband was a waiter in Massachusetts. He made much more money than anyone else in the village. When the communists came, he advised her to stay and watch the children and their property. When the communists lost, they decided to take the village children to Albania to raise them as the vanguard of the new socialist utopia. Eleni planned her children's escape, but got drafted for a work detail. She was arrested, tortured, tried, and executed. Her children made it to America. The youngest, Nicholas, graduated Columbia, went to work for the New York times. Became head of the Athens bureau. Tracked down the judge who tried his mother. The account will help you understand socialist success. There's one chapter on the role of the village teacher, always the main instigator.

Village teacher = community organizer = Satan

Saul alinsky credits Satan as the first community organizer in Rules for Radicals. The organizing is always against God because they hate His sovereignty.
 
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South Vietnamese hated the VC.

There is a old Vietnam joke about this from the soldiers in the field, it goes, " that you oughta take all the good SV people and put them on a ship in the Bay , and then go kill all the VC and bad SV and then comeback and torpedo the ship in the bay". We was flying in supplies at night in Helos blind with no lights dropping water and ammo to the Marines, I shit my pants that night about 6 times, I wasn't thinking about Communism or any of that politic crap, I was thinking about them being thirsty and running out ammo, like I said before, it got to be if any of them SV, VC could not sing the Star Spangled Banner then shoot them, one or the other would surly shoot you, look at Calley at My Lai, he got tired like all the rest and said F-it and just did the whole Ville, he got a bum deal outa it when there were others doing the same thing and nothing was said.

All I can say is for America never to send 17 and 18 yr old boys to fight for ya, we was what the USA sowed and we was what they reaped!


Hook'em
 
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