Ouch. That will leave a mark. Poor aggy.
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Oooo goooood God. Don't let aggie see those facts. They don't do well with facts!
Facts ruin that little bizarre bubble they like to live in.
Facts ruin that little bizarre bubble they like to live in.
The Texas rebuild is a tear it down to the studs rebuild. Rumlin inherited 5 NFL bound OLs, arguable the best OL in the nation, plus 1st round picks at QB and WR.
Funny, that's what Franchione kept saying for his entire tenure when he replaced Slocum.
Funny, how he didn't show anything. That's why he gone. Bottom feeders I swear.
might as well put this here..Washington post yesterday. They made national news again 
Texas A&M University leaders have apologized to a group of inner-city high school students who said they were racially taunted and told to “go back where you came from” by white A&M students while touring the College Station campus last week.
University President Michael Young and Chancellor John Sharp met Tuesday with juniors at Uplift Hampton Preparatory in South Dallas to extend a personal “apology to the class,” Uplift education chief executive Yasmin Bhatia said in a statement. The university officials “praised them for the manner in which they handled a difficult and offensive situation,” Bhatia said.
Young said it was a way to make amends.
“I wanted to tell them how deeply sorry I was, and how sorry many people were, about what happened,” he told the Texas Tribune. “I wanted them to know that doesn’t represent the values that we really hold dear at A&M.
“Also, we wanted to tell them we were tremendously impressed with them and how proud of them we are in terms of how they reacted — and that they are precisely the kinds of students we’d love to see enrolling.”
Officials are investigating reports that white Texas A&M students harassed the high-schoolers, some of whom are African American and Latino, while about a group of about 60 teenagers were visiting the campus last week.
Of Texas A&M’s more than 64,000 students, about 23 percent were reported as Hispanic, black or American Indian, according to fall enrollment data. The enrollment figures include students on multiple campuses; nearly 58,000 students were enrolled in the fall at the flagship campus in College Station.
Officials told the Dallas Morning News that the high school students reported that a white woman approached two African Americans in the group and asked them what they thought about her Confederate flag earrings. Then, other students shouted racial slurs at the high schoolers.
State Sen. Royce West said that A&M students told the South Dallas high schoolers to “go back where you came from.”
The next day, Young, the university president, said he was “outraged and tremendously disappointed” in the A&M students.
“I deeply regret the pain and hurt feelings this incident caused these young students,” he said in a statement. “Be assured that we take such allegations very seriously.”
“While the actions of a few certainly do not represent our institution as a whole,” he added, “it is the responsibility of all of us to stop any incidents that could be considered hateful or biased-based on race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, disability or any other factor. This type of behavior goes against our A&M core values and in addition to immediate intervention.”
The university’s student newspaper, the Battalion, reported that the treatment of the campus visitors brought “widespread condemnation from students and administrators.”
Student body president Joseph Benigno said on social media that it was a “sobering reminder” that the idyllic experiences at A&M “do not always align completely with reality.”“My initial emotions of shock and disbelief have now soured into the painful realization that a very small group of students could be capable of such an ignorant and barbaric form of hate,” he wrote.
Benigno helped launch a campaign to send 10,000 letters to high-schoolers to tell them about A&M’s values.
“The true Texas A&M is a very friendly and welcoming place, and it’s loving and cares for every member of the Aggie family and we go out of our way to make sure that everyone feels welcome here,” he told the student newspaper. “So I don’t want their experience at Texas A&M to be defined by that memory.
“I want their memory to be a Texas A&M that responded very well in the face of crisis and clearly stood up for what it really believed in, and not stood for hate.”
On Monday, A&M student groups set up tables on campus so students could pen letters to the Uplift Hampton high-schoolers.
“We’re going to encourage them to write whatever they feel, but we would love for students to write about how what happened to the high school students does not represent Texas A&M’s values,” Benigno told the newspaper.
West, the Texas senator, had called earlier for an investigation and possible expulsion for the A&M students involved in the incident.
“If these students did in fact do this, they should be expelled,” he told NBC-affiliate KXAS. “You need to send a strong message that A&M — the A&M system — will not tolerate any of this.”
A&M president later confirmed that the university was conducting an “expedited investigation” and would “take appropriate action as quickly as possible.”
“I thought it was a very good step on the part of A&M’s leadership and I am happy that they did all that,” West told the news station, “but the sincerity comes as a result of what ultimately transpires.
“You can’t come to the students, apologize, and say you’re an open university if you don’t take action when you have a gang of students who act directly opposite to that.”
Said Bhatia, the Uplift education chief executive: “While we appreciate the swift response of the Texas A&M leadership, it is my hope that we broaden the conversation at colleges locally and across the country about increasing inclusion and cultural awareness programs so that all students can feel safe and welcome regardless of their ethnicity.”
Texas A&M University leaders have apologized to a group of inner-city high school students who said they were racially taunted and told to “go back where you came from” by white A&M students while touring the College Station campus last week.
University President Michael Young and Chancellor John Sharp met Tuesday with juniors at Uplift Hampton Preparatory in South Dallas to extend a personal “apology to the class,” Uplift education chief executive Yasmin Bhatia said in a statement. The university officials “praised them for the manner in which they handled a difficult and offensive situation,” Bhatia said.
Young said it was a way to make amends.
“I wanted to tell them how deeply sorry I was, and how sorry many people were, about what happened,” he told the Texas Tribune. “I wanted them to know that doesn’t represent the values that we really hold dear at A&M.
“Also, we wanted to tell them we were tremendously impressed with them and how proud of them we are in terms of how they reacted — and that they are precisely the kinds of students we’d love to see enrolling.”
Officials are investigating reports that white Texas A&M students harassed the high-schoolers, some of whom are African American and Latino, while about a group of about 60 teenagers were visiting the campus last week.
Of Texas A&M’s more than 64,000 students, about 23 percent were reported as Hispanic, black or American Indian, according to fall enrollment data. The enrollment figures include students on multiple campuses; nearly 58,000 students were enrolled in the fall at the flagship campus in College Station.
Officials told the Dallas Morning News that the high school students reported that a white woman approached two African Americans in the group and asked them what they thought about her Confederate flag earrings. Then, other students shouted racial slurs at the high schoolers.
State Sen. Royce West said that A&M students told the South Dallas high schoolers to “go back where you came from.”
The next day, Young, the university president, said he was “outraged and tremendously disappointed” in the A&M students.
“I deeply regret the pain and hurt feelings this incident caused these young students,” he said in a statement. “Be assured that we take such allegations very seriously.”
“While the actions of a few certainly do not represent our institution as a whole,” he added, “it is the responsibility of all of us to stop any incidents that could be considered hateful or biased-based on race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, disability or any other factor. This type of behavior goes against our A&M core values and in addition to immediate intervention.”
The university’s student newspaper, the Battalion, reported that the treatment of the campus visitors brought “widespread condemnation from students and administrators.”
Student body president Joseph Benigno said on social media that it was a “sobering reminder” that the idyllic experiences at A&M “do not always align completely with reality.”“My initial emotions of shock and disbelief have now soured into the painful realization that a very small group of students could be capable of such an ignorant and barbaric form of hate,” he wrote.
Benigno helped launch a campaign to send 10,000 letters to high-schoolers to tell them about A&M’s values.
“The true Texas A&M is a very friendly and welcoming place, and it’s loving and cares for every member of the Aggie family and we go out of our way to make sure that everyone feels welcome here,” he told the student newspaper. “So I don’t want their experience at Texas A&M to be defined by that memory.
“I want their memory to be a Texas A&M that responded very well in the face of crisis and clearly stood up for what it really believed in, and not stood for hate.”
On Monday, A&M student groups set up tables on campus so students could pen letters to the Uplift Hampton high-schoolers.
“We’re going to encourage them to write whatever they feel, but we would love for students to write about how what happened to the high school students does not represent Texas A&M’s values,” Benigno told the newspaper.
West, the Texas senator, had called earlier for an investigation and possible expulsion for the A&M students involved in the incident.
“If these students did in fact do this, they should be expelled,” he told NBC-affiliate KXAS. “You need to send a strong message that A&M — the A&M system — will not tolerate any of this.”
A&M president later confirmed that the university was conducting an “expedited investigation” and would “take appropriate action as quickly as possible.”
“I thought it was a very good step on the part of A&M’s leadership and I am happy that they did all that,” West told the news station, “but the sincerity comes as a result of what ultimately transpires.
“You can’t come to the students, apologize, and say you’re an open university if you don’t take action when you have a gang of students who act directly opposite to that.”
Said Bhatia, the Uplift education chief executive: “While we appreciate the swift response of the Texas A&M leadership, it is my hope that we broaden the conversation at colleges locally and across the country about increasing inclusion and cultural awareness programs so that all students can feel safe and welcome regardless of their ethnicity.”
There is 1 Senior scholarship OL on the roster, There are 2 Junior schollie OL on the roster both of whom are JuCos brought in by Strong's staff. There is no QB of any note in the Senior, Junior, or Sophomore classes and we have yet to see what the Freshman QBs can do. Look at the Seniors, that is a recipe for a repeat of 1 NFL combine invite at best. The same for the Junior class.
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2-13???? How does Sumlin have a job?
Unbelievable story. This is getting a lot of play in Dallas. Senator West is Vice Chairman of the Higher Education Committee. He's not going to let his constituents be treated like this by a school under his watch - I pity the idiot who made the comment.might as well put this here..Washington post yesterday. They made national news again
Texas A&M University leaders have apologized to a group of inner-city high school students who said they were racially taunted and told to “go back where you came from” by white A&M students while touring the College Station campus last week.
University President Michael Young and Chancellor John Sharp met Tuesday with juniors at Uplift Hampton Preparatory in South Dallas to extend a personal “apology to the class,” Uplift education chief executive Yasmin Bhatia said in a statement. The university officials “praised them for the manner in which they handled a difficult and offensive situation,” Bhatia said.
Young said it was a way to make amends.
“I wanted to tell them how deeply sorry I was, and how sorry many people were, about what happened,” he told the Texas Tribune. “I wanted them to know that doesn’t represent the values that we really hold dear at A&M.
“Also, we wanted to tell them we were tremendously impressed with them and how proud of them we are in terms of how they reacted — and that they are precisely the kinds of students we’d love to see enrolling.”
Officials are investigating reports that white Texas A&M students harassed the high-schoolers, some of whom are African American and Latino, while about a group of about 60 teenagers were visiting the campus last week.
Of Texas A&M’s more than 64,000 students, about 23 percent were reported as Hispanic, black or American Indian, according to fall enrollment data. The enrollment figures include students on multiple campuses; nearly 58,000 students were enrolled in the fall at the flagship campus in College Station.
Officials told the Dallas Morning News that the high school students reported that a white woman approached two African Americans in the group and asked them what they thought about her Confederate flag earrings. Then, other students shouted racial slurs at the high schoolers.
State Sen. Royce West said that A&M students told the South Dallas high schoolers to “go back where you came from.”
The next day, Young, the university president, said he was “outraged and tremendously disappointed” in the A&M students.
“I deeply regret the pain and hurt feelings this incident caused these young students,” he said in a statement. “Be assured that we take such allegations very seriously.”
“While the actions of a few certainly do not represent our institution as a whole,” he added, “it is the responsibility of all of us to stop any incidents that could be considered hateful or biased-based on race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, disability or any other factor. This type of behavior goes against our A&M core values and in addition to immediate intervention.”
The university’s student newspaper, the Battalion, reported that the treatment of the campus visitors brought “widespread condemnation from students and administrators.”
Student body president Joseph Benigno said on social media that it was a “sobering reminder” that the idyllic experiences at A&M “do not always align completely with reality.”“My initial emotions of shock and disbelief have now soured into the painful realization that a very small group of students could be capable of such an ignorant and barbaric form of hate,” he wrote.
Benigno helped launch a campaign to send 10,000 letters to high-schoolers to tell them about A&M’s values.
“The true Texas A&M is a very friendly and welcoming place, and it’s loving and cares for every member of the Aggie family and we go out of our way to make sure that everyone feels welcome here,” he told the student newspaper. “So I don’t want their experience at Texas A&M to be defined by that memory.
“I want their memory to be a Texas A&M that responded very well in the face of crisis and clearly stood up for what it really believed in, and not stood for hate.”
On Monday, A&M student groups set up tables on campus so students could pen letters to the Uplift Hampton high-schoolers.
“We’re going to encourage them to write whatever they feel, but we would love for students to write about how what happened to the high school students does not represent Texas A&M’s values,” Benigno told the newspaper.
West, the Texas senator, had called earlier for an investigation and possible expulsion for the A&M students involved in the incident.
“If these students did in fact do this, they should be expelled,” he told NBC-affiliate KXAS. “You need to send a strong message that A&M — the A&M system — will not tolerate any of this.”
A&M president later confirmed that the university was conducting an “expedited investigation” and would “take appropriate action as quickly as possible.”
“I thought it was a very good step on the part of A&M’s leadership and I am happy that they did all that,” West told the news station, “but the sincerity comes as a result of what ultimately transpires.
“You can’t come to the students, apologize, and say you’re an open university if you don’t take action when you have a gang of students who act directly opposite to that.”
Said Bhatia, the Uplift education chief executive: “While we appreciate the swift response of the Texas A&M leadership, it is my hope that we broaden the conversation at colleges locally and across the country about increasing inclusion and cultural awareness programs so that all students can feel safe and welcome regardless of their ethnicity.”
I don't think Strong inherited a goldmine by any means. But he did dismiss a lot of players and had some transfers.There is 1 Senior OL on the roster, There are 2 Junior OL on the roster both of whom are JuCos brought in by Strong's staff. There is no QB of any note in the Senior, Junior, or Sophomore classes and we have yet to see what the Freshman QBs can do. Look at the Seniors, that is a recipe for a repeat of 1 NFL combine invite at best.
Bottom line, if Saban takes the Texas job in 2013, where do you think they are today?
One year ahead on the rebuild if he'd been announced Dec. 9th, 2013. He would have the reputation that would've allowed purging Mack's bad offers for the 2014 class with enough time they weren't left hanging to find a spot, the gravitas to flip kids, and nearly two months to work with before LOI day. But, don't forget he lost to ULM in Tuscaloosa during his rebuild of Bama.
I think its possible he would have had a 6-7 win season in 2014 but cant believe he would go 5-7 in year 2.
That because he'd be a year ahead of Strong on the rebuild. With how it all went down, as far as I'm concerned 2016 is year two of Strong's rebuild with his players. Poona and Nelson are the only Strong guys in the 2014 class. Saban was 6-6 his first year at Bama with 3 OOC rent a wins of which he lost one.
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Aw cute.
You just can't quit us.
I get why you'd want to ignore really damning facts about ATM. I just don't get why you still compare yourself to us. Even in your best years, you are basically what UT is right now. And we are down and pissed of and firing coaches. That is your norm.
In fact Strongs stats are actually better in the category of wins vs .500 or better conf teams. Off the top of my head I can think of two wins vs ranked and better than .500 teams for him just last year. Go back to the year before (counting his 2 yr tenure at UT) and he already surpasses ole Sumlin who has 2 in his entire time at ATM. But thanks for playing. Deflection denied.
2-13 is pathetic. Strong's record is also bad. The two aren't related. Neither coach's goal is to be slightly better than the other.
Texas beat OU and Baylor last year. Alone. Without a Heisman winner. That's two and matches Sumlin. In a rebuilding year.
There isn't a more delusional fan base anywhere. If you want to laugh at their delusion, read this thread. The humor is pure greatness: http://texags.com/forums/5/topics/2724372
That's a step in the right direction, but I suspect that it's far more than just a miniscule fraction of, uh, 2% who have these racist attitudes, and are willing to express them openly.might as well put this here..Washington post yesterday. They made national news again
Texas A&M University leaders have apologized to a group of inner-city high school students who said they were racially taunted and told to “go back where you came from” by white A&M students while touring the College Station campus last week.
University President Michael Young and Chancellor John Sharp met Tuesday with juniors at Uplift Hampton Preparatory in South Dallas to extend a personal “apology to the class,” Uplift education chief executive Yasmin Bhatia said in a statement. The university officials “praised them for the manner in which they handled a difficult and offensive situation,” Bhatia said.
Young said it was a way to make amends.
“I wanted to tell them how deeply sorry I was, and how sorry many people were, about what happened,” he told the Texas Tribune. “I wanted them to know that doesn’t represent the values that we really hold dear at A&M.
“Also, we wanted to tell them we were tremendously impressed with them and how proud of them we are in terms of how they reacted — and that they are precisely the kinds of students we’d love to see enrolling.”
Officials are investigating reports that white Texas A&M students harassed the high-schoolers, some of whom are African American and Latino, while about a group of about 60 teenagers were visiting the campus last week.
Of Texas A&M’s more than 64,000 students, about 23 percent were reported as Hispanic, black or American Indian, according to fall enrollment data. The enrollment figures include students on multiple campuses; nearly 58,000 students were enrolled in the fall at the flagship campus in College Station.
Officials told the Dallas Morning News that the high school students reported that a white woman approached two African Americans in the group and asked them what they thought about her Confederate flag earrings. Then, other students shouted racial slurs at the high schoolers.
State Sen. Royce West said that A&M students told the South Dallas high schoolers to “go back where you came from.”
The next day, Young, the university president, said he was “outraged and tremendously disappointed” in the A&M students.
“I deeply regret the pain and hurt feelings this incident caused these young students,” he said in a statement. “Be assured that we take such allegations very seriously.”
“While the actions of a few certainly do not represent our institution as a whole,” he added, “it is the responsibility of all of us to stop any incidents that could be considered hateful or biased-based on race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, disability or any other factor. This type of behavior goes against our A&M core values and in addition to immediate intervention.”
The university’s student newspaper, the Battalion, reported that the treatment of the campus visitors brought “widespread condemnation from students and administrators.”
Student body president Joseph Benigno said on social media that it was a “sobering reminder” that the idyllic experiences at A&M “do not always align completely with reality.”“My initial emotions of shock and disbelief have now soured into the painful realization that a very small group of students could be capable of such an ignorant and barbaric form of hate,” he wrote.
Benigno helped launch a campaign to send 10,000 letters to high-schoolers to tell them about A&M’s values.
“The true Texas A&M is a very friendly and welcoming place, and it’s loving and cares for every member of the Aggie family and we go out of our way to make sure that everyone feels welcome here,” he told the student newspaper. “So I don’t want their experience at Texas A&M to be defined by that memory.
“I want their memory to be a Texas A&M that responded very well in the face of crisis and clearly stood up for what it really believed in, and not stood for hate.”
On Monday, A&M student groups set up tables on campus so students could pen letters to the Uplift Hampton high-schoolers.
“We’re going to encourage them to write whatever they feel, but we would love for students to write about how what happened to the high school students does not represent Texas A&M’s values,” Benigno told the newspaper.
West, the Texas senator, had called earlier for an investigation and possible expulsion for the A&M students involved in the incident.
“If these students did in fact do this, they should be expelled,” he told NBC-affiliate KXAS. “You need to send a strong message that A&M — the A&M system — will not tolerate any of this.”
A&M president later confirmed that the university was conducting an “expedited investigation” and would “take appropriate action as quickly as possible.”
“I thought it was a very good step on the part of A&M’s leadership and I am happy that they did all that,” West told the news station, “but the sincerity comes as a result of what ultimately transpires.
“You can’t come to the students, apologize, and say you’re an open university if you don’t take action when you have a gang of students who act directly opposite to that.”
Said Bhatia, the Uplift education chief executive: “While we appreciate the swift response of the Texas A&M leadership, it is my hope that we broaden the conversation at colleges locally and across the country about increasing inclusion and cultural awareness programs so that all students can feel safe and welcome regardless of their ethnicity.”
What happened on your campus in 2016, I can't imagine happening on the 40 acres even 30 years ago. Valuing diversity was truly a Longhorn core value in the 1980s (except for some of the Greeks, at least). I trust that it still is.
Did I say all Aggies are racist? Did anyone? No, except what I'm about to say. All humans suffer from some degree of prejudice. We judge one another without knowing all the facts. We generalize (like I just did with the fraternities and sororities). It's part of the human condition. So, please, Aggies, no slew of comments about how you're an Aggie, yet you aren't racist, supposedly. You are prejudiced, and so are we all, as much as we might try not to be.
Yeah, I look at this stat as more of a comment on where the Aggie (and honestly, other SEC teams') wins often come from. What's happening at Texas is an issue that needs to be dealt with, and quick. Texas needs a good year this year for Strong to have a chance to see year 4 and coach these two most recent recruiting classes as sophomores and juniors. That's fine.
But while A&M has certainly been more consistent, record wise, in the past few years, that stat shows that the win/loss record seems to be, at the very least, a bit inflated.
That means, of the 52 games that the Aggies have played in under Sumlin (and during their time in the SEC, 13 of them (or 1/4 of them) have been against teams that ended the season with a winning record. And of the 36 wins they have during their time in the SEC (and under Sumlin), only 2 of those (or 1/18th... 5.56% of them) were against teams with winning records. 34 of their 36 wins came against teams (94.4%) of them came against teams with losing records.
And while I certainly think that Alabama and LSU have been very very good teams most of the time recently, and other schools like Auburn, Florida, Ole Miss, etc., have all had impressive seasons from time to time... it certainly says something if a team in the SEC West, hardest division in college football, can go through 4 seasons in the conference, have a winning record, and not have to beat almost any teams that also have winning records to do so.
I'm sure that all schedules have SOME inflation built in... some teams have to lose, and most big teams play at least a cupcake or two OOC... and I certainly would be interested to see the numbers on other schools, but this seems like a lot of padding built in to an SEC West schedule.
But while A&M has certainly been more consistent, record wise, in the past few years, that stat shows that the win/loss record seems to be, at the very least, a bit inflated.
That means, of the 52 games that the Aggies have played in under Sumlin (and during their time in the SEC, 13 of them (or 1/4 of them) have been against teams that ended the season with a winning record. And of the 36 wins they have during their time in the SEC (and under Sumlin), only 2 of those (or 1/18th... 5.56% of them) were against teams with winning records. 34 of their 36 wins came against teams (94.4%) of them came against teams with losing records.
And while I certainly think that Alabama and LSU have been very very good teams most of the time recently, and other schools like Auburn, Florida, Ole Miss, etc., have all had impressive seasons from time to time... it certainly says something if a team in the SEC West, hardest division in college football, can go through 4 seasons in the conference, have a winning record, and not have to beat almost any teams that also have winning records to do so.
I'm sure that all schedules have SOME inflation built in... some teams have to lose, and most big teams play at least a cupcake or two OOC... and I certainly would be interested to see the numbers on other schools, but this seems like a lot of padding built in to an SEC West schedule.
Funny thing is ---- Aggies actually had the best conference record of all the Big 12 defectors last year:
ATM = 4-4
Nebraska = 3-5
Missouri = 1-7
Colorado = 1-8 (at least the Pac 12 has the balls to play 9 conference games).
If these 4 pieces of garbage were still in the Big 12, OU would never have been allowed into the playoffs.
ATM = 4-4
Nebraska = 3-5
Missouri = 1-7
Colorado = 1-8 (at least the Pac 12 has the balls to play 9 conference games).
If these 4 pieces of garbage were still in the Big 12, OU would never have been allowed into the playoffs.
What unfortunate luck for aggy that the members of the "very small group" of racists at the school all just happened to be where the black and Latino visiting students were. What are the odds?
I liked this one:
Quote:First off, I love A&M and have a lot of faith in the program.
But the sips pulled 2 games out of their ass and beat highly ranked BlowU and baylol. If they have a miracle game against us, it could hurt recruiting like a mother.
Eff them
I read 2 pages of that drivel. Only 1 in 10 posts was based in reality. Pathetic.
TE Jordan Davis is transferring from A&M. I'll wait to see the new team rankings for the '15 class as aggys like to do when a player leaves other teams. BTW, how will the aggys EVER replace his two whole receptions from last year?!!
Buh bye, little Tator Tot. Too bad too because he's the perfect aggy with little man syndrome.
Buh bye, little Tator Tot. Too bad too because he's the perfect aggy with little man syndrome.
