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Report: Environment in Texas Longhorns offensive meeting room was "toxic"

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When Texas Longhorns head coach Charlie Strong added tight ends coach Jeff Traylor to the staff after National Signing Day to join wide receivers coach Jay Norvell, it was widely hailed as a positive move.

Traylor brought in East Texas recruiting connections and ran a massively successful spread offense at Gilmer High School that helped him win three state championships. What was there not to like?

Unfortunately, what Horns247 describes as a "toxic" offensive meeting room never allowed Traylor the influence he deserved on the staff through the spring and helped undermine the offense before it even took a snap during the 2015 season.

I was told Traylor's input was initially rebuffed with one of the assistants refusing to take input from him because they felt - for lack of a better term - the three-time state champion coach was beneath them due to having never coached at the college level.

Oh. That's... um, yeah, that's gross.

At the time, now-departed play caller Shawn Watson was supposedly installing a hurry-up, no-huddle spread attack meant to mimic some of the competition on the Big 12 and highlight the strengths of offensive players, but none of that ended up coming together and in-fighting among the offensive coaches likely contributed to that failure.

During the spring, however, Strong still believed that he had the right mix in place.

"You look at us on offense, and by adding Jay (Norvell) and Jeff (Traylor), it's been a great fit for us," Strong said. "Most coaches are professional and they can adjust, and they've adjusted well and come in with great ideas. When a guy's not concerned about himself, and doesn't need his ego stroked, it's so easy for coaches to adjust. When you have to pamper egos, that's when you have an issue."

Looking back, Strong was either misrepresenting his staff dynamics, those issues had not yet come to the forefront, or he just wasn't aware of it. None of those answers are satisfying in any way.

Ultimately, the end result was that egos were clearly not set aside and got in the way in a manner that was extremely detrimental to the program. It's not clear whether it was Watson or offensive coordinator/offensive line coach Joe Wickline who was so frosty to Traylor upon arrival, but the impact was the same and Strong demoted Watson after the Notre Dame debacle to open the season.

Both deserve significant blame for a lack of professionalism, according to the report:

Sources with knowledge of what went on in Texas' offensive staff meetings with Watson in charge talk about an attitude of "needing to prove he was the smartest guy in the room," as one source put it, coming from the former assistant head coach for offense. Tales of Wickline's tenure at Texas paint an unsavory picture of a coach who couldn't figure out which of his player's buttons were the right ones to push, all while being described as not being engaged to the point of seeming disinterested outside of practices and games.

So here's guessing it was Watson who wasn't interested in the input from Traylor, then, even though Traylor proved himself capable of making important contributions after wide receivers coach Jay Norvell took over play-calling duties, with some observers holding that the offensive attack employed by the Longhorns for most of the 2015 season looked extremely similar to the Traylor's offense at Gilmer.

Norvell still has to make a decision about his future, but with Traylor serving as a key part of the recruiting team sent to Tulsa to land new offensive coordinator Sterlin Gilbert and offensive line coach Matt Mattox, the new staff should fit much better together with Watson and Wickline both out out the picture now.

http://www.burntorangenation.com/20...-shawn-watson-joe-wickline-jeff-traylor-toxic
 
The article sounds legit, but it also sounds like it is trying to sell us. For me, it draws the question, if this is who Sean Watson was, why didn't Charlie Strong see this in Louisville and why did he not do something about Watson last year?

I want Strong to succeed, but really, this article does nothing but makes me very concerned about the leadership ability of Strong, and his ability to pick a staff. Of course I have felt this way for a very long time, this article just gives strength to my concerns.
 
Interesting info,Traylor won 3 state high school championships in Texas and does anyone think Watson could win one? I hope Traylor stays on board.
 
The article sounds legit, but it also sounds like it is trying to sell us. For me, it draws the question, if this is who Sean Watson was, why didn't Charlie Strong see this in Louisville and why did he not do something about Watson last year?

I want Strong to succeed, but really, this article does nothing but makes me very concerned about the leadership ability of Strong, and his ability to pick a staff. Of course I have felt this way for a very long time, this article just gives strength to my concerns.

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The article sounds legit, but it also sounds like it is trying to sell us. For me, it draws the question, if this is who Sean Watson was, why didn't Charlie Strong see this in Louisville and why did he not do something about Watson last year?

Maybe because Watson was fully in charge as OC in Louisville? Maybe because he wasn't asked to listen to a recent HS coach at UL? Who knows? The situations were different. His assh*lish tendencies may not have manifested themselves at Louisville for any number of reasons.
 
Maybe because Watson was fully in charge as OC in Louisville? Maybe because he wasn't asked to listen to a recent HS coach at UL? Who knows? The situations were different. His assh*lish tendencies may not have manifested themselves at Louisville for any number of reasons.

I can see both sides. Watson has been coaching in college for a long time, and he's got a lot of experience under his belt, so I can see an ego regarding a high school coach. Watson has also been at the head of some real stinkers as OC so I can see where he should have some humility as well. He's a guy that should be grateful he has a job at a P5 school, imo.

There is good and bad to take away from this article if you believe it.
 
The next 2 years will be telling. We will be good or bad. Regardless, the current HC will deservedly reap the accolades. I'm in the camp that anytime a leader has dissent among his ranks and he doesn't immediately squash it, the leader isn't leading. Likewise, great leaders are great at influencing others to carry out their will.
 
I think Charlie may be one of those people that was such a team player when he was coming up through the ranks that he may be naive to people's ego and petty actions.

I've said a couple of times one of my biggest criticisms of him was how the freshman situation was handled. It seemed he divided the locker room into freshmen and everyone else. He may not have done it on purpose, it just came out that way.

If this story is true, he should have seen what was going on but maybe he just didn't think his coaches would stoop to that.
 
If you can believe him,Howe at 247 says the guy not listening to Traylor was NOT Watson



Had to edit..senior moment
 
Watson was a mess, glad he is gone and hopefully Charlie learned a lesson.
 
Dont worry Spur...I dont pay....so I cant post over there. I just see if they have any info I dont get here......the answer to that is....not much
 
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The article sounds legit, but it also sounds like it is trying to sell us. For me, it draws the question, if this is who Sean Watson was, why didn't Charlie Strong see this in Louisville and why did he not do something about Watson last year?

I agree, the article sounds like it's giving us what we wanted to hear... Even if the sources are legit, perhaps the write up is suffering from too much hindsight. This makes it sound like it was so obvious, but of course that's because we already know the outcome. If these reports were coming out in real time back in summer/early autumn, it would've been very interesting.

I've been wondering as well, what do yall thing would've happened if we hadn't demoted Watson after the ND game? Isn't scrapping a year's preparation after one game a bit hasty? Maybe the plan wasn't as bad as we thought it was, but ND defense was just that good or they had a bead on us from the get go. We'll never know... It's tough to have one of your best opponents as your very first of the season.
 
The article sounds legit, but it also sounds like it is trying to sell us. For me, it draws the question, if this is who Sean Watson was, why didn't Charlie Strong see this in Louisville and why did he not do something about Watson last year?

I want Strong to succeed, but really, this article does nothing but makes me very concerned about the leadership ability of Strong, and his ability to pick a staff. Of course I have felt this way for a very long time, this article just gives strength to my concerns.

It should make you question Charlie's leadership ability. If this story is true, it's all on Charlie. He doesn't get to be this nice ethical core values guy sitting in a corner making 5 mil, happily hooking those horns, unaware of what's happening between coaches and the overall effectiveness of the offense.

But again, this is a story that might or might not be real. Just like all the other 2nd and 3rd hand stuff we hear about events that might..or might not, be real.
 
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