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Spring Practice 2017

Another Quarterback Battle



In my La-La Land, a bona-fide battle would not be taking place, just a "motivational" one.

Every year Texas would have another top rated frosh QB in the fold. In the spring, the successful incumbent would feel the heat, the other quarterbacks would apply the burn, but the staff would secretly know that they will be redshirting the true freshman to allow him more time to acclimate and develop.

Kinda like...

 
I was told that after the first practice in shorts and helmets there was a come to jesus chat that took place in the meeting room. Like a real life "who's your daddy" tongue lashing. I will see if I can get more info.
 
TFB Tuesday Practice Notes

I know we reported after Herman got the Texas job, that he isn’t afraid to stop things during practice and chew somebody out. And that he isn’t going to watch his mouth, no matter who’s around. I was told Herman was in mid-season form when it came to that as he was really pushing his guys on Tuesday.

Herman mentioned that the one player he probably chewed out more than any other was QB Shane Buechele, but not for his lack of effort but for his lack of urgency when it came to ball security. Buechele, who hurt his thumb on his throwing hand last season was wrapped on Tuesday. That could be something to keep an eye on over the spring/fall.

Dorian Leonard and Collin Johnson were with the 1’s at outside WR. Jerrod Heard and Armanti Foreman were in the slot. Lil’Jordan Humphrey is back with the WRs and I was told he had the catch of the day during 1-on-1s.

Williams-Vahe-Shackelford-McMillon-Nickelson were the 1’s on the OL.

Roach-Ford-Nelson were the 1’s on the DL with Hughes-Hager-Jefferson starting at LB.

Boyd and Hill started at CB, with Locke at nickel. The lone surprise was John Bonney starting at safety with DeShon Elliott.
 
My thought,it is not real smart of Herman to Chew out Buechele in front of the other players if he expects him to be a leader of the team since it demeans his role.Now,if it is done in private then I see nothing wrong with that approach.
 
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My thought,it is not real smart of Herman to Chew out Buechele in front of the other players if he expects him to be a leader of the team since it demeans his role.Now,if it is done in private then I see nothing wrong with that approach.
I couldn't disagree more. I think by chewing out the leader of your team, it shows that you will not show any favoritism and that nobody is bigger than the team. If your "leader" of the team isn't working the hardest and doing the little things that are being asked, is he really a leader?
 
My thought,it is not real smart of Herman to Chew out Buechele in front of the other players if he expects him to be a leader of the team since it demeans his role.Now,if it is done in private then I see nothing wrong with that approach.
I feel the complete opposite. Our biggest complaint, before the stretch of sub .500 seasons, was our problem with entitlement & diva issues. This squashes that on day 1 and builds real TEAM mentality. 1 guy doesn't make a team but 1 guy can break it.
Win as a team, lose as a team. What we are making here is greater than any individual. Reminds me of basic training when 1 person screwed up everyone else had to suffer. Trust me when I say it reinforces accountability.
 
My thought,it is not real smart of Herman to Chew out Buechele in front of the other players if he expects him to be a leader of the team since it demeans his role.Now,if it is done in private then I see nothing wrong with that approach.

Disagree and shows coach isn't bull turding around get them boys in check and turn them into men.
 
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When Vince Lombardi took over the Green Bay Packers he was yelling and Chewing out Bart Starr over a Play in practice and Bart ask to speak with him after practice.He explained that his dad was an officer in the Military and could take an "Ass chewing " but if he expected him to lead his team then he had to have respect from the other players.Vince was smart enough to understand his point. Im talking about the QB position only was my point.
 
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I'm in the majority here....if your leaders aren't doing what they are asked to do...(ball security) then you chew them out. it's called "accountability". It doesn't matter who you are.
 
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When Vince Lombardi took over the Green Bay Packers he was yelling and Chewing out Bart Starr over a Play in practice and Bart ask to speak with him after practice.He explained that his dad was an officer in the Military and could take an "Ass chewing " but if he expected him to lead his team then he had to have respect from the other players.Vince was smart enough to understand his point. Im talking about the QB position only was my point.

Bill Belichick is known for embarrassing players during film study and Tom Brady is still the victim as much as anyone else. To this day, Belichick will say things like "You mean to tell me we can't complete a simple out? We have QBs at Foxboro High School that can make that throw."

Free agents that have signed with the team have later said they appreciate the fact no one is above getting yelled at. And I don't think anyone can question Brady's ability to lead.
 
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My thought,it is not real smart of Herman to Chew out Buechele in front of the other players if he expects him to be a leader of the team since it demeans his role.Now,if it is done in private then I see nothing wrong with that approach.
This ain't about participation trophies! Eat that ass if it needs to be ate up!
 
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I don't see how getting chewed out in public diminishes your ability to lead. A leader would get chewed out and correct the issue without complaining or whining. Take it like a man and be an example for the others. That would be a leader in my opinion, I hope that is how Shane handled it.
 
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This was first day of spring practice stuff from a new staff trying to set a tone. It could have been a flawless practice and guys still would have been chewed out left and right.
 
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This was first day of spring practice stuff from a new staff trying to set a tone. It could have been a flawless practice and guys still would have been chewed out left and right.
Agreed..... but I can assure you the first spring practice was anything but perfect.
 
It doesn't matter who he chews out, if he don't win very many games this season he's liable to be CS's asst at USF..and he knows that he got to win to keep the golden key to the bathroom..so why not get some ass? I reallt don't think that DKR took any shit from his players, his word was final, so maybe things are getting serious as they should be,


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Coach Quotes After Tuesday's Practice

On accountability among the teammates: “There’s no secrets around here. If you’re a bad guy, your teammates are going to know you’re a bad guy. There’s zero preferential treatment. Shane Buechele got disciplined as hard as anybody got disciplined today. That’s the way we do things around here. He was loose with the football and every single offensive coach undressed him. He did up-downs and the whole nine. I’m not sure that’s the way things have been done around here before now, but it’s a good way to know with this coaching staff there’s no favorites.”

On the aspect of practice that was the most difficult for the team to grasp:
“Stretch. We sprint at the end of stretch 10 yards. That’s it. 10 yards. We do things, we call it “plus 2” around here. Any 10 yard drill should not be pulled up until after 12 yards. They kept pulling up and they kept testing the fence. Buzz! Is it still on? Yes, it’s still on. Lot of you guys were there, right? How many times did I call them back?”

On addressing the team after the stretch period: “What I said to them is that everything matters. We were not going to end that period until every single person on the football team did their sprints completely right. What does that have to do with football? It’s got everything to do with football. Everything. It’s about taking care of the details and putting forth the effort. Those are all things that take zero talent to do and are decisions that are made in your head.

On the defensive line: “There’s very little grace in our program. It’s fourth and inches every time you walk in the door. I’ve said many times that you only get five pats in the back around here – one after each bowl win and one when you walk across the stage and graduate. There are certain things in the back of my mind that I know to be true. This isn’t the NFL – there’s no waiver wire. These are our guys and we are going to have to play with them.”

On the team trusting this coaching staff: “I feel very confident. Everybody feels confident. I think it’s the level of commitment from the staff and the people in our organization to never let anything slide. That mentality will be a difference for us. What do they have to lose? If I had lost seven games in three straight years and you told me to jump, I’d ask how high? Something has to change.”
[More @ IT]
 
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Herman Praises Two DL "Fat Guys"

The first was sophomore Jordan Elliott, who Herman praised for his work in winter conditioning.

“Better than I thought,” Herman said.

Herman admitted Tuesday he had concerns about Elliott because he committed to and de-committed [to three other schools]. One of those programs was Houston, which left Herman with the impression that Elliott could be someone who simply refuses to give a desired effort.

That’s not what Herman has found to be the case. Elliott, despite Herman saying the 6-foot-5, 330-pound former U.S. Army All-American was “so out of shape” when winter workouts began, did a good job of pushing himself and continues to do so.

“For as out of shape as he was, he knows how to go hard, which was a big concern of mine,” Herman said.

On the practice field Tuesday it was a defensive lineman, senior Poona Ford, who had one of the better days in Herman’s eyes. Like Elliott, Herman described Ford as being someone who isn’t in ideal physical condition but knows how to go hard.

Specifically, Ford impressed Herman with how he sprinted to the football every time he was on the field.

“It’s the last set of plays in period 24, and his 305-pound butt is hauling you-know-what to the football,” Herman said.

Herman was so impressed with Ford that he stopped practice and called Ford over to come see him.

“Poona Ford went really hard. And he’s not in the best shape. It was pretty to watch. As pretty as a 5-foot-11, 305-pound man sprinting can be.” Herman said.

Herman admitted there’s very little grace given in his program, which means he’s not going to wait for the defensive linemen on the roster to get into ideal physical condition before requiring them to meet expectations.
[More @ 247]
 
Cotton....I have great respect for you and am pretty sure that you know lots more than I do....but I think you might have missed on Herman chewing out Buschele.

I think Herman was channeling his inner Belichek when he was eating out Shane in front of the team. I read a Randy Moss quote about his first practice when he came to the Pats. He said Belichek pulled Tom Brady out in front of the team and lit his hair on fire in the film room. (he had to research the film archives to find a bad Brady pass,) but he showed it to the team and lit Brady up. Moss said right then and there he knew he wanted to play for that coach. He said everyone in the room knew at that point that if the coach would light up Brady, he would not be shy about lighting up anyone on the team. Moss said he could feel the whole team starting to focus.

I get what you are saying, but I think Herman is trying to win the whole team over at once. Will it work?....well...nothing has worked for 7 years, so why not?
 
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Champion VS Loser Life

When the head coach was hired at Texas in November he made sure his team knew that he would be installing a new performance-based labeling system for all of his players.

Gold would be the champions group, those who do everything with the right effort and mentality. Green is for those that are on their way there while players in the crimson group, well, struggle to put forth the correct attitude.

All of the players received their first label on Monday night and then were subsequently treated to a dinner at the Touchdown Club in Royal-Texas Memorial Stadium based off whatever group they were in.

“Crimson is rough,” said senior Naashon Hughes, who is part of the gold group.

Those in the lowly group don’t get the same gear as everyone else, Hughes said. They don’t get the same dinner and are subjected to mandatory study hours at the choosing of the coaching staff.

Defensive back P.J. Locke, a gold group member, accidentally walked into the losers dinner Monday night and saw first hand what they were offered to eat.

“I walked in and they had white bread burned and they had burned hot dogs,” Locke said. “That’s all I really saw."

Hughes added that they had some burgers (most likely burnt) and baked beans.

"Guys are going to try and plead their case. I think there were some people that were close to making gold, but there were just one or two things that held them back," Hughes said. "You just have to speak with those guys and mention if you did this a little better, they would have had no excuse [to put you in gold]."

On the other hand, the gold group, which Herman said had 31 players in it, gets to choose their own study hours, gets the better food and gets other perks as well. Their dinner on Monday night included ribeye steak, shrimp, chicken, pasta, cheesecake and triple chocolate cake, among other things.

“It’s basically being a winner,” said Hughes. “So you get the gold club, you get to move off campus, so you don’t have to stay in the dorms all the time.
[More @ 247 and E$PN]
 


Poooor Eddie. Maybe if the big bad coaches hadn't yelled at him he could have achieved a few honors like...

• 2016 FWAA Freshman All-American
• 2016 Scout National Freshman of the Year
• 2016 Scout First Team All-American
• 2016 Phil Steele’s AAC First Team
• 2016 AFCA Second Team All-American
• 2016 CBS Sports First Team All-American
• 2016 FWAA Second Team All-American
• 2016 ESPN First Team All-American
• 2016 Associated Press First Team All-American
• 2016 Sports Illustrated First Team All-American
• 2016 USA Today First Team All-American
• 2016 Sporting News First Team All-American
• 2016 Bill Willis Award Winner
• American Athletic Conference Rookie of the Year
• American Athletic Conference First Team

Oh, wait.
 
IT's Joe Cook's tweet from the 2nd practice:

In the short open session, in 5¢ pursuit drills, Malcolm Roach was at DE with Ford and Nelson at DL. Hager, Hughes, Jefferson at LB.

John Bonney was working out with Craig Naivar's group and played some safety in the pursuit drills.

In position group drills, 1s repped with other 1s.

Heard, Joe, and Burt were the only three receivers practicing at Z. Mehringer has said he prefers longer, leaner vertical threats at Z.

Personally, I feel it's beneficial for receivers to have a younger coach like Mehringer who can be physical and show technique.

Also standing out to me is Michael Huff's calm and direct style of coaching as compared to other members of the staff. Methodical.

Andrew Fitzgerald was at DE with Daniels and Southall on the third DL.

Herman was very involved in pursuit drills.
 
Head coach Tom Herman, OL Connor Williams and RB Chris Warren III met with the media on Thursday following the Longhorns' second spring practice.

Tom Herman

On whether getting through the opening portion of practice was easier today: Easier. Not easy, certainly. But yeah, easier. After the stretch part though, we were a little sluggish. I talked to the team after practice. I thought it might have been because they thought day one might have been a 'Hey this is day one, set the tempo' kind of deal and then we're going to let up. But they need to know that we never let up. They responded pretty well at the end of practice. As tired as they were, they were flying around pretty good.

On which players have stood out so far: I'm never going to comment on anybody's performance in shorts. It's just not football. We'll wait and see. The Tuesday after spring break will be a good indication of who stands out and who doesn't.

On his message to his players regarding spring break: Be safe. You hear horror stories all the time over spring break. I told them today, we're on a mission, and that mission doesn't press pause because you get a week off of school. Our culture needs to spread beyond just the building and the practice field. It needs to be in real life. If you're with your brother, take care of your brother. If you're alone or go home with friends, just be smart. Our coaches will be in constant communication with them.

On the quarterbacks: Their heads are swimming right now with the new offense and the tempo of it and what's expected of them. There's a lot on the quarterbacks' plate in this offense. Coach Beck and I were actually talking, it's probably the only position in football where you have to teach scheme before you teach fundamentals, because you literally can't get through a practice if your quarterback doesn't know to open left or open right or to look at this guy versus that guy in his read and all that. So you teach the scheme first, and there's some fundamental things. Both guys are a bit of overstriders, so we've got to compact them a little bit. But that'll come once they're comfortable in the offense. Then we can start talking about the minutiae of fixing some of the issues with their mechanics.

On only having the kids for two practices before spring break: When we come back we'll have that Monday to meet. We'll be able to refresh them. With the first practice that they're back on that Tuesday being in pads, you try as offensive and defensive staffs not to install new stuff. It's more going over what you installed day one and day two, now at full speed in pads. And then that Thursday you can hit them with a few new things in installation. We thought about, because we're a new staff and giving us time as a staff to kind of get our bearings, waiting until after spring break. But then you've got to try to cram 15 practices into four weeks rather than 13, because we've got to hit the road for spring recruiting and we don't want to drag it out. I've done the four practices a week model and that's tough on the kids.

On his thoughts after watching the film from Tuesday's practice: My thoughts were that we need to continue to develop our practice habits and go through the echo of the whistle. That was the main takeaway. It was impressive when guys were going full speed and through the whistle. There's certainly a lot of athleticism out there on the field.

On what he hoped to get out of the first two practices: Just practice culture and what the expectations are for a practice. The plays don't matter. They never will. It's how you prepare and how you practice and then ultimately how you play. The effort and intensity that you play with. If you've got elite, championship practice habits, you can call whatever play you want, if you've got good players and you've recruited well. I think that's really starting to sink in.

Connor Williams

On transitioning into full practices: Everyone's first day of spring is like riding a new bicycle. We're definitely getting our feet under us and figuring out the new offense and everything. We're just trying to put our team together.

On team goals for the spring: I think Coach Herman's really stressing how we practice. So I think it's all about effort first, and then it's about Xs and Os. So we've got to get down our practice habits and then we can get to the offense.

On personal goals this spring: I'm just trying to learn the offense, understand the new technique, and just perfect my craft.

On working with a new offensive line coach: They all have their different traits. I mean Warehime, he's intense. He wants things done how he wants it. He's a perfectionist. So everything I do I have to do perfect.

On working on leadership: I'm trying to take a more vocal stance first with the offensive line and getting the offensive line together. And then the team approach.

On comradery between offensive lineman: I think we've been getting really close together. I think we're really a family now, and I enjoy saying that because I feel like we've been lacking that the past couple years. So I feel like we're one unit.

On Coach Herman: I think all our coaches get their traits from Coach Herman. You've got to have your foot behind the line if he says foot behind the line. You've got to run to the sideline if he says run to the sideline.

On what fans will see at the spring game: Hopefully they see a passionate football team and see a football team that's willing to go hard so they can win, and demands perfection.

Chris Warren III

On his coming back and practicing: There's definitely a little progression to it. The way I've been working through the offseason I feel like it's going to be an easier transition.

On if he missed football: Oh absolutely. Especially having to watch the games and be at the games. It's definitely one of those heartbreaking things where you can't go out there and help your team whether they win or lose.

On Coach Drayton: He's not a stern guy, but he's definitely one of those guys that's about his business. He wants us to succeed in all aspects of the game and in life. He wants us to be a grown man. I think he's definitely one of those guys that will show us how to do that.

On if he's taken a leadership role: I'm definitely trying to. I haven't been a vocal leader before, even in high school, but I'm trying to come out of my shell and be one of those guys because we all need a leader. We have some already, but I feel like on offense we need some more older guys to step up.

On what the team is trying to accomplish this spring: To give ourselves an identity. If we can get an identity early we can definitely go into summer camp with an idea of what we want to do and need to work on.

On what he is trying to accomplish personally: Just trying to win. I couldn't care less about anything else right now. When we win, all the individual stuff will come, so I feel like that's what we need to focus on.

On Coach Herman: Just full of energy. He's really passionate. The guy loves the game. He loves us. He loves this university and I think he's going to lead us into a really good direction.

On Coach Beck: It's been really good. The way that they've explained stuff to us, it's been really easy to catch onto. A lot of this stuff kind of falls into the same category.
[TexasSports]
 
Champion VS Loser Life

When the head coach was hired at Texas in November he made sure his team knew that he would be installing a new performance-based labeling system for all of his players.

Gold would be the champions group, those who do everything with the right effort and mentality. Green is for those that are on their way there while players in the crimson group, well, struggle to put forth the correct attitude.

All of the players received their first label on Monday night and then were subsequently treated to a dinner at the Touchdown Club in Royal-Texas Memorial Stadium based off whatever group they were in.

“Crimson is rough,” said senior Naashon Hughes, who is part of the gold group.

Those in the lowly group don’t get the same gear as everyone else, Hughes said. They don’t get the same dinner and are subjected to mandatory study hours at the choosing of the coaching staff.

Defensive back P.J. Locke, a gold group member, accidentally walked into the losers dinner Monday night and saw first hand what they were offered to eat.

“I walked in and they had white bread burned and they had burned hot dogs,” Locke said. “That’s all I really saw."

Hughes added that they had some burgers (most likely burnt) and baked beans.

"Guys are going to try and plead their case. I think there were some people that were close to making gold, but there were just one or two things that held them back," Hughes said. "You just have to speak with those guys and mention if you did this a little better, they would have had no excuse [to put you in gold]."

On the other hand, the gold group, which Herman said had 31 players in it, gets to choose their own study hours, gets the better food and gets other perks as well. Their dinner on Monday night included ribeye steak, shrimp, chicken, pasta, cheesecake and triple chocolate cake, among other things.

“It’s basically being a winner,” said Hughes. “So you get the gold club, you get to move off campus, so you don’t have to stay in the dorms all the time.
[More @ 247 and E$PN]


If I had practiced hard all the time and he gave me that shit to eat, I would tell him to stick it up his ass and transfer, I don't believe that food should be used to punish players, that's wrong, most of them came to Texas for CS and they got screwed on that one we all know, he doing alotta things good I think but , that food shit gotta go, Texas wants them to invest their skills at the game and at least they oughta be able to eat with being a gold table member, you could have a few bad practices and wind up eating shit food, oh well, Whataburgers down the street so F'em....LOL!


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