Tell The Truth in Your Heart

[FlourBluffHorn]

Is Herman gonna be the one?

Is gonna try and be a Mack Brown clone being so close to one of his mentors?

Do Some of you realize that you are saying the same thing about Herman that you did Strong?

Could we have done better in our coach search?

Do you think that he is at the higher enough in the Coach;s caliber to do this job? Remember that strong come from a lesser division..

Tell the truth! No BS!


Hook'em

 

[madcow12]

I will let you know in 3 years but right now, I feel better about this hire than I did Charlie. It always feels better to get the first guy on the long list. I think we are light years ahead with QB also than when Charlie took over. it was a mistake to put everything into Ash because most of us called it here that he would not make it the whole season.

 

[ryan_sublett]

I think I've made my position clear, but I'll start. Do I think we could of done a better job in our coach search? I think we could of done a better job searching. I know I've taken heat and called names for suggesting we were handing the job to Herman, but the fact that we interviewed Herman Friday night, fired Strong Saturday moring and made the Herman hiring official 3 hours later suggest that there really was no plan B. Just so we're clear that timeline came straight from the AD and President.

Now we can argue semantics about weather boosters reached out to agents, but what we do know is Herman is the only one who interviewed with decssion makers. Only way it could of went down given the timeline of events. I think that was a mistake.

Now I don't think Herman will fail here in the way Strong did. I also don't think he will be the next urban Meyer either. If we're lucky he duplicates Mack brown and even that would be a tough feat.

I am somewhat concerned that we seem to be bringing back some of the same faces we ran out of town for not getting it done. That's certainly a risk.

 

[TexExSpur]

We can guess all we'd like, but we will have a damn good feel for it in 1095 days.

 

[dj701919]

I think I've made my position clear, but I'll start. Do I think we could of done a better job in our coach search? I think we could of done a better job searching. I know I've taken heat and called names for suggesting we were handing the job to Herman, but the fact that we interviewed Herman Friday night, fired Strong Saturday moring and made the Herman hiring official 3 hours later suggest that there really was no plan B. Just so we're clear that timeline came straight from the AD and President.

Now we can argue semantics about weather boosters reached out to agents, but what we do know is Herman is the only one who interviewed with decssion makers. Only way it could of went down given the timeline of events. I think that was a mistake.

Now I don't think Herman will fail here in the way Strong did. I also don't think he will be the next urban Meyer either. If we're lucky he duplicates Mack brown and even that would be a tough feat.

I am somewhat concerned that we seem to be bringing back some of the same faces we ran out of town for not getting it done. That's certainly a risk.

sigh

 

[bubba2023]

What's the one? A national championship? I'll take the no on that one for pretty much any hire. We don't have many of those to our ledger so odds are he won't win one either.

Mack Brown clone? That would mean he is the one since Mack won a NC?

Herman/Strong follow similar paths. Not all coaches that have a similar backstory are destined to have similar careers. Logic should tell you that.

Since there wasn't much of a search, I think it could have gone better. Herman didn't deserve to be in a Herman or bust category. .

 

[bubba2023]

I think I've made my position clear, but I'll start. Do I think we could of done a better job in our coach search? I think we could of done a better job searching. I know I've taken heat and called names for suggesting we were handing the job to Herman, but the fact that we interviewed Herman Friday night, fired Strong Saturday moring and made the Herman hiring official 3 hours later suggest that there really was no plan B. Just so we're clear that timeline came straight from the AD and President.

Now we can argue semantics about weather boosters reached out to agents, but what we do know is Herman is the only one who interviewed with decssion makers. Only way it could of went down given the timeline of events. I think that was a mistake.

Now I don't think Herman will fail here in the way Strong did. I also don't think he will be the next urban Meyer either. If we're lucky he duplicates Mack brown and even that would be a tough feat.

I am somewhat concerned that we seem to be bringing back some of the same faces we ran out of town for not getting it done. That's certainly a risk.

Are you talking about Oscar Giles and Brewster? Both of those guys got it done plenty here and no one ran them out of town. Giles was pretty much one of the few justifiable hires Strong could have kept from Mack's staff, but he instead went with Chambers.

 

[ryan_sublett]

Are you talking about Oscar Giles and Brewster? Both of those guys got it done plenty here and no one ran them out of town. Giles was pretty much one of the few justifiable hires Strong could have kept from Mack's staff, but he instead went with Chambers.

Sounds like major would be here to if it weren't for the lawsuit.

My point is we pushed Mack out(and by extension his staff) now 3 years later we're bringing some of those same staff members back. Now we can debate each guy on an individual basis. I'm just saying it's unusual and has some risk to it.

 

[LonghornMM]

I like the hire. Herman could have gone pretty much anywhere he wanted if a CFB job was open. He was/is highly thought of by many people in college football for a reason. No one knows for sure how he will do at Texas. There are no guarantees. I do have much more enthusiasm than when Strong was hired. Strong was what, about the fifth choice once he took the job? To me Herman exudes confidence and leadership, something, especially confidence, that I never thought Strong had in himself.

Herman is his own man/coach. He has learned from some great coaches over the years. If someone told me right now that he would duplicate the number of wins that Mack Brown had, I would take that in a heartbeat. The Texas FB program is much better off going forward with Herman.

Hook'em!

 

[bubba2023]

Sounds like major would be here to if it weren't for the lawsuit.

My point is we pushed Mack out(and by extension his staff) now 3 years later we're bringing some of those same staff members back. Now we can debate each guy on an individual basis. I'm just saying it's unusual and has some risk to it.

There certainly risks (there are risks in everything), but none of the risks have anything to do with the fact they were here previously.

Of course you look at them on an individual basis, there is no guilt by association unless you want to be irrational.

 

[oldschoolcat]

I think it is a phenomenal hire. For whatever that's worth. I think he is a dumbazz for walking into that environment, but he made the calculation and decided it was worth it.

Just do him a favor and take your big money donors and board of regents on some fishing and hunting trips and get their minds right.

Let the man do his job.

 

[Son of Wasatch]

I don't listen to my heart, my heart will lie.

My gut tells me yes he is.

1. He knows how to recruit.
2. He is an offensive genius.
3. He is smart enough to go out and find the best assistants
4. He is a Mack Brown guy and that will go a long way for many boosters and high school coaches.
5. The boosters hand picked him, so he has their blessing.
6. He is young and aggressive.
7. He learned under Urban Meyer.
8. He has strong ties to Texas High School coaches
9. He is a UT grad
10. He has a smoking hot wife. Never overlook the wife.

 

[jfournet]

Lost to SMU badly... Not sure how you do that.

 

[outhereincali]

Is Herman gonna be the one?

Is gonna try and be a Mack Brown clone being so close to one of his mentors?

Do Some of you realize that you are saying the same thing about Herman that you did Strong?

Could we have done better in our coach search?

Do you think that he is at the higher enough in the Coach;s caliber to do this job? Remember that strong come from a lesser division..

Tell the truth! No BS!


Hook'em

You know in one way it kind of feels like Bama & Nick Saban and also like Michigan & Jim Harbaugh, in that were going out and buying a nc. He is getting paid above and beyond what he should get paid, but you can't blame Tom Herman for taking the money.

In the case of Bama they've gotten their money's worth, he's been expensive but worth it.

As much as I dislike the guy personally it's only a matter of time before Jim Harbaugh breaks through and wins a nc.

Will Tom Herman be more of the same?

This whole story is what's wrong with social media. But Tom Herman's agent did what he set out to do which is get the best possible deal for his client.

And I agree with the above poster who is advising the bmd's to leave Tom Herman alone and let him do his job.

 

[RoboCocks21]

Lost to SMU badly... Not sure how you do that.

Dude quit trolling and GTFO

 

[TexExSpur]

Lost to SMU badly... Not sure how you do that.

Then you know jack shit about CFB.

 

[TexExSpur]

I think it is a phenomenal hire. For whatever that's worth. I think he is a dumbazz for walking into that environment, but he made the calculation and decided it was worth it.

Just do him a favor and take your big money donors and board of regents on some fishing and hunting trips and get their minds right.

Let the man do his job.

Dude, that's what makes the hire great. The money pimps are aligned on this hire and he has full control.

 

[jfournet]

Apparently Chad Morris does, lol

 

[crazypatriotguy]

Lost to SMU badly... Not sure how you do that.

Probably the same way a SEC school loses to Louisiana- Monroe, a 6-6 Sunbelt team who had already lost to 2-10 North Texas. If Nick Saban can't even beat ULM with a blue blood SEC school, he probably won't amount to much.

 

[Longyac]

Lost to SMU badly... Not sure how you do that.

Have the Big 12 announce that week that there will be no expansion when all the media has been saying UH is in and now you suspect your coach is gone?

 

[Longyac]

-Our powers that be seemed to have learned from the last HC change and had all their ducks in a row to announce the successor a day later. Herman gets 6 more weeks(150% more time) before LOI day than Strong did to get a staff in place and recruit. Texas was among the first to make a coaching changes this time instead of the last.

-Herman was smart to bring Mack in and honor him to appease the BMDs in Mack's corner and minimize Mack's meddling.

-Herman lucked out on Strong's post season recruiting preference. Herman has tons of in home and OVs available.

 

[Son of Wasatch]

Herman lucked out on Strong's post season recruiting preference. Herman has tons of in home and OVs available.

Oh snap, you are the first person to mention that. He really did luck out, and he also lucked out and left Herman lots of potential spot available for who he wants to bring in.

I will say this again, Barron Browning is the Malik Jefferson of this class, if he gets him a lot of stars will begin to align in a crazy way.

I still want the following guys
Barron Browning,
Walker Little
Marvin Wilson

They are the crown jewel.

 

[obviouslyZRH]

I was pulling for Chip Kelly and agree that the Herman hire sounds very similar to the Strong hire 3 years ago. But deep down I find it hard to imagine that he could do any worse than Strong.

 

[UT1997]

-Herman was smart to bring Mack in and honor him to appease the BMDs in Mack's corner and minimize Mack's meddling.

-Herman lucked out on Strong's post season recruiting preference. Herman has tons of in home and OVs available.

If Herman's relationship with Mack is similar to what Mack had with Royal, I think that's great. However, I hope it doesn't turn into Mack pulling the strings with Herman as the puppet. Especially if we see a lot of Mack guys being rehired (assistants, Maddog, etc..) Other than that, I'm very optimistic about Herman.

For all of Strong's blunders, I liked his recruiting approach. Round up the hot prospects and flip them late. Mack was great early on, but giving guaranteed rides to 16yr old juniors was the beginning of the entitlement era.

 

[RoboCocks21]

Mrs. Royal was at herman pc

 

[Bass Elder]

I was pulling for Chip Kelly and agree that the Herman hire sounds very similar to the Strong hire 3 years ago. But deep down I find it hard to imagine that he could do any worse than Strong.

No, Herman is the coach all the powers to be wanted.

Charlie Strong?>
1. we offered Jim Mora from UCLA.. ended up turning us down
2. we offered Franklin.. turned us down for PSU
3. the big push was for J. Fisher but Korn-Ferry Consultants was hell bent on that from happening for some reason
4. then Charlie was offered

edit: can't say the first two were offered but were approached for the job and made to say no before Charlie

 

[Son of Wasatch]

No, Herman is the coach all the powers to be wanted.

Charlie Strong?>
1. we offered Jim Mora from UCLA.. ended up turning us down
2. we offered Franklin.. turned us down for PSU
3. the big push was for J. Fisher but Korn-Ferry Consultants was hell bent on that from happening for some reason
4. then Charlie was offered

First off nothing you said was correct.

We never offered the job to Franklin or Mora, there was never a push for Jeff Fisher.

We interviewed two people, Franklin and Strong we chose strong and let Franklin know.

If you don't know, don't post it.

 

[Longyac]

J. Fisher= Jimbo

A BMD did fly out and talk to Mora but not anyone with hiring ability.

Otherwise you are correct.

 

[ryan_sublett]

And 3 years later Franklih has his team in a conference title game... oops

 

[Pumpedup55]

In my heart... yes I feel we made the right decision on Herman. His resume is short but he has shown success in that time record wise but to me he seems to have good organizational management skills. His teams are prepared, he seems to know how to get them there. I like that everyone is on board with the hiring from BMD's to admin.

 

[RoboCocks21]

@clob94 isn't on board. Waiting for him to get better to hear what he has to say

 

[Oldmanastro]

Is he sick? Been wondering where he has been. Remains of Ethiopian food?