Texas AD Weighing In on Strong's Future
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How do you know we didn't try to get a transfer QB? It was reported that there was mutrul interest in Everett Gohlston. Brian Kelly blocked it. We don't really know what was tried and not tried.
Simple fact is we did not get one. The first year they hedged their bets on a concussed Ash....love the kid but come on.
Right. I can't pin not getting one on the coaches though. They can't force guys to transfer in. All you can do is try your best to get them. Now if it came out that we didn't try at all. That's a different story. Don't think that was the case though.
Here is the thing.......When you hire someone for a job you judge them on HOW they are doing.......Strong was hired to win football games at Texas.....he has not shown he can win.......he has not shown he can build this program.......he has not shown Texas is getting better every game out. Texas is a dream job, blueblood program that pays millions of dollars for RESULTS. Being a nice guy doesn't cut it.
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http://www.scout.com/college/texas/story/1613394-texas-at-critical-point-in-athletics-future. After reading this article, I can see why Perrin wants to give Strong until the end of the season. Patterson was a big dirt bag.
From Chip Brown
Talked to several key players who usually have some influence over the status of the Texas football coach, including high-ranking players at UT.
There will be no mid-season action taken on the head coach.
"There's no upside," a key player said.
Texas president Greg Fenves ultimately will make the call on if Strong will stay or go.
And I was told tonight, "The Tower is in no way ready to hit the panic button one quarter of the way into the season."
I texted with the influential big money donors I spoke with in Wednesday's HD ONLY about what was at stake in the Ok State game for Strong.
One said: "If this is fixing it with Strong's involvement - then this doesn't bode well for him."
Another said: "Not sure he can fix this. The 18-point losses - his 10th in three years after Saturday - were supposed to be over."
Another said: "Really wanted today to be different. Well, actually it was. It was worse defensively than the Cal game."
When asked if Strong could buy himself time by firing Vance Bedford and replacing him (maybe with Clint Hurtt) , One powerful big-money source said:
"That should've happened last week. That's the problem with Charlie - everything comes too late. The offensive changes. The defensive changes. He only has two coaches left from his original staff , and we're talking about him possibly firing one of the remaining two. Someone who should have been fired after last year or after last game, right?"
To say Strong needs the best week of his coaching life at Texas heading into the OU game might be putting it mildly.
It's dire times in Texas football once again
Talked to several key players who usually have some influence over the status of the Texas football coach, including high-ranking players at UT.
There will be no mid-season action taken on the head coach.
"There's no upside," a key player said.
Texas president Greg Fenves ultimately will make the call on if Strong will stay or go.
And I was told tonight, "The Tower is in no way ready to hit the panic button one quarter of the way into the season."
I texted with the influential big money donors I spoke with in Wednesday's HD ONLY about what was at stake in the Ok State game for Strong.
One said: "If this is fixing it with Strong's involvement - then this doesn't bode well for him."
Another said: "Not sure he can fix this. The 18-point losses - his 10th in three years after Saturday - were supposed to be over."
Another said: "Really wanted today to be different. Well, actually it was. It was worse defensively than the Cal game."
When asked if Strong could buy himself time by firing Vance Bedford and replacing him (maybe with Clint Hurtt) , One powerful big-money source said:
"That should've happened last week. That's the problem with Charlie - everything comes too late. The offensive changes. The defensive changes. He only has two coaches left from his original staff , and we're talking about him possibly firing one of the remaining two. Someone who should have been fired after last year or after last game, right?"
To say Strong needs the best week of his coaching life at Texas heading into the OU game might be putting it mildly.
It's dire times in Texas football once again
I cannot disagree with any of it. If Strong keeps Bedford, both could be fired at the end of the season. I believe the only way Strong stays at Texas is by replacing Bedford now and winning.
https://m.soundcloud.com/paperboyanwar/mike-perrin-on-charlie-strong Audio straight from our AD's mouth about Strong
Strong's biggest downfall at Texas was hiring subpar assistant coaches when he took the job and hanging on to those assistants too long. Bedford is awful and should have been canned last year. The assistants that he has recently hired are better than what we had from the first regime, but for some reason, he let Bedford hang around. That guy shouldn't have gotten on the plane back from Stillwater yesterday.
And that right there is the mindset of many of charlie's defenders. I'm not singling you out westx, I'm just pointing out that the "under current" that many of the people who want to critique charlie and do not do so, is the fear they will be seen as racist.
I am not racist. Never have been. Wasn't raise that way. I believe in merit. If someone comes to my company to interview I don't care what color they are, the person with the most experience and best track record gets the job. Period. Which is why I've said time and again with regard to Herman, he's got an even weaker resume than charlie did. Yes, he's the flavor of the month. Yes he appears to be a heck of a coach. I don't care that he's white. I care what his resume is. His resume isn't where I'd like it to be and I am leary about endorsing ANY ONE with that limited of a resume-- white, black, brown, purple or martian.
Then let's just admit Strong was a place holder or brought in to get good recruiting classes. Because no coach was doing much better with the talent on the team in year 1 and 2. I get that everyone wants to beleive had we brought in Saban, or whoever things would be better, and maybe they would be THIS year. Not so much last year or the year before.
I think Strong would be fine if our defense hadn't regressed at the same time the offense improved. It lends the appearance that he picked the wrong staff from the start and has been slow in either noticing this or execution (replacing them with the proper personnel). We see the slow to change/execute on the field too.
You say this over and over and over....does not make it true. Another coach would have struggled no doubt about it BUT the RIGHT coach may have done a LOT better too. You don't know that another coach would not have had a better record OR kept games a lot closer and NOT GET EMBARRASSED on national tv.....had worst Offense and worst defense in the HISTORY of Texas Longhorn football.
Oh and only have 2 coaches from original staff. Strong ONLY has himself to blame.
Look, I actually agree with part of your point. I'm of the school that doesn't think we'd be in the national title this year regardless of the coach, and I think that building from the ground up was something might need to have happened at Texas regardless of the hire.
Coming into this season, my thought was: this should be a fun year... but we should really be back next year, not this year. 8 wins or so. 10 would be a really great season, but if he gets 7 and things look like they're progressing, I'm in for the 4th year. 8 and I'm in regardless.
After winning the Notre Dame game, my thought was, wow, it's great to see the team fight back from behind and win a game like that. They didn't quit. I like that. But let's not get ahead of ourselves here. It's just one game. I still expect some losses this year. The rest of the conference looking suspect makes me tempted to start thinking way bigger, but I really don't like the jump in the polls that we made. It was just one win so far.
But these first 6 weeks of the season (5 games and a bye) looked a little make-or break, in part because they needed to show improvement, and in part because having one big home game, one small home game, and then 3 games away from home over 4 weeks... I mean, if there's a bad trend during that, then by the time the team is back in the home stadium, Texas fans are going to have already made up their mind.
If I were only basing my thoughts on all of this on the offensive improvements, we'd be golden. Yeah, there are some things to work on with the receivers. Yeah, once in a while I'm not sure why a certain play is called when something else is working so well. But improvement? No doubt! But the issues we're having on defense aren't new. They've been there. And they seem like they're getting worse, not better. And... isn't that kind of why we hired Coach Strong?
I like the guy. I've been a big supporter since his hire. I've suggested he needs more time when people were freaking out last year. And yes, I realize how crazy it is that one year counts as "more time". In an ideal world he'd have even more time than that. It's not really so much that we lost games. It's how we lost them. Last year, for me, it was "wow, we were so close to winning those two games! A little tweaking, and we should be several games better! And imagine if we had a more versatile quarterback situation!" This year we have a MUCH better QB situations, and those two games that were just a tweak or two away from being wins... are suddenly losses where we didn't look like we could handle the game at all.
Now, I'm still willing to watch the team and see if things get better for as long as Coach Strong is the head coach. And if somehow it all starts coming around, I'll be ecstatic. I really would love for that to be the way this story goes. But I also think that it IS time for the powers that be to start figuring out what they want to do, including the possibility of finding a new coach. I think the specifics on how quickly or how urgently they should act would be based on things that I couldn't possibly know enough about, like who else they would consider and what opportunities there are, as well as how donors and recruits are reacting at this point. I'm definitely not in the "fire him right now" camp and as long as he's the coach, I'll continue to hope things get better... but I'm also think it's a totally appropriate time for the powers-that-be to be asking "do we think he can fix it? at what point do we start losing recruits and fan interest? who else is out there and do we have reason to think they'd do better now?"
Losing games is one thing, but there's just no reason that the team should look this helpless in our middle-tier match-ups. Especially when some of the issues are clearly the same issues we've been having for a while now.
Only question that needs to be asked, is the team improving? Not just the offense, or defense but the team as a whole package. Looks the same to me, leave age out of it. Either its improving or its not? I'm leaning towards NOT.
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