Texas offense should not get a pass.....

[Iitbhorn3]

while scoring above 30 in every game might seem like the offense is doing well, it is arguable that the Texas offense has cost us the 3 losses.

Turnovers at critical times and inability to score in the second half against Cal.
Inability to score in the second half in the OSU game.
Allowing OU to stay in the game in the first half. 3 points out of 4 turnovers!
If the Texas offense had taken advantage of the OU turnovers, OU would likely have been forced to be less multiple in the game.

While the focus is on the defense, let us not ignore the fact that the offense has not performed well enough to win, either.

 

[cwillfromdatx]

The offense shouldn't get a pass but it will due to the lack of defense. I do feel you on some of the play calling such as having Swoopes start with the ball first within UT 20 yrd line. That happen twice this year and both times the OC has brought Shane in on a 3rd and long, putting a long of pressure to make a throw and what does Shane do? Throws a INT in both. Swoopes should be in the red zone but should have the ability to throw to the TE. Learn to run plays that caters to Porters ability instead of using him like a Foreman or Warren

 

[utexfan5]

When a team reaches the level of suck shown this season, its a total team effort. Dont exclude special teams. Its their baby too.

 

[OldHornInPA]

Frankly I thought special teams performed decently for a change at the RRS. Maybe somebody paid more than lip service to it last week.

 

[westx]

while scoring above 30 in every game might seem like the offense is doing well, it is arguable that the Texas offense has cost us the 3 losses.

Turnovers at critical times and inability to score in the second half against Cal.
Inability to score in the second half in the OSU game.
Allowing OU to stay in the game in the first half. 3 points out of 4 turnovers!
If the Texas offense had taken advantage of the OU turnovers, OU would likely have been forced to be less multiple in the game.

While the focus is on the defense, let us not ignore the fact that the offense has not performed well enough to win, either.

I thought the offense played fine. Shane is the only one that had a bad game. He made several bad throws either off target, late or not enough muscle on them. Nonetheless, he deserves a pass because of his youth and he will learn, IMO.

 

[ryan_sublett]

I do give the offense a pass for a few reasons.

1. They are scoring plenty of points to win football games. If you are scoring 40-45 points every week you should be winning

2. When you play a freshman QB you are gonna have some mistakes, struggles and missed chances at times. Alabama is having that issue to at times difference is they play decent D

First year in a system again gonna be some miscommunication and such

Think about this guys. One stop in each of the 3 games we've lost. One more stop and we're probably 5-0

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

40 points should be enough to win a game. Our defense is ranked last in the Big 12.

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

I do give the offense a pass for a few reasons.

1. They are scoring plenty of points to win football games. If you are scoring 40-45 points every week you should be winning

2. When you play a freshman QB you are gonna have some mistakes, struggles and missed chances at times. Alabama is having that issue to at times difference is they play decent D

First year in a system again gonna be some miscommunication and such

Think about this guys. One stop in each of the 3 games we've lost. One more stop and we're probably 5-0

That's just it. Our defense doesn't stop anyone, except UTEP. We allowed 57% of OU third downs to be converted. We allowed almost 50% of third downs to be converted against Notre Dame, CAL, & Oklahoma State.

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

Texas averages 41 points per game on offense - tied for 5th BEST in UT history. Offense is NOT the problem.

The Texas defense allows 39.6 points per game, WORST in UT history. Defense IS the problem.

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

Texas averages 41 points per game on offense - tied for 5th BEST in UT history. Offense is NOT the problem.

The Texas defense allows 39.6 points per game, WORST in UT history. Defense IS the problem.

We are breaking our defensive records Strong set last season. The trend line is down. Our players are a year older. The writing is on the wall. 13-17 is not better than Mack's 30-21 in his final seasons. Adios Chuck.

 

[clob94]

while scoring above 30 in every game might seem like the offense is doing well, it is arguable that the Texas offense has cost us the 3 losses.

Turnovers at critical times and inability to score in the second half against Cal.
Inability to score in the second half in the OSU game.
Allowing OU to stay in the game in the first half. 3 points out of 4 turnovers!
If the Texas offense had taken advantage of the OU turnovers, OU would likely have been forced to be less multiple in the game.

While the focus is on the defense, let us not ignore the fact that the offense has not performed well enough to win, either.

Please see 4MNChampsHorn's post.

41 points a game is WAY more than enough to win every game.

Period.

Period exclamation point

 

[Son of Wasatch]

When an offense scores more than 35 pts in a game, they have done enough to win and shouldn't be shouldering the blame. Especially when turnovers weren't the problem.

Contrary,when a defense gives up nearly 700 yards of total offense with 211 to a single running back and 254 to a single receiver that is the fault of not only the defense, but primarily the defensive coaches.

I have a feeling this coaching staff is about to completely give up on this team and this team is about to give up on this coaching staff.

 

[clob94]

When an offense scores more than 35 pts in a game, they have done enough to win and shouldn't be shouldering the blame. Especially when turnovers weren't the problem.

Contrary,when a defense gives up nearly 700 yards of total offense with 211 to a single running back and 254 to a single receiver that is the fault of not only the defense, but primarily the defensive coaches.

I have a feeling this coaching staff is about to completely give up on this team and this team is about to give up on this coaching staff.

I'm being told the finger pointing has started.

 

[EyesOnTexas]

It's over just need to find the right coach this time and open the checkbook. I'm just not sure who that should be. I don't think any real proven coaches are open to change and who knows if Briles is scapegoat of higher ups at BU. He would have been unreal at UT if Patterson had not have insisted on a interview it was obvious the man could coach.

 

[Iitbhorn3]

When an offense scores more than 35 pts in a game, they have done enough to win and shouldn't be shouldering the blame. Especially when turnovers weren't the problem.

I do not agree with this at all.

Look at the 1st quarter.
With around a minute left in the quarter,
The Texas defense had produced more turnovers (2) than the offense had 1st downs (0). The offense had just produced 5 yards on its 3 or 4 possessions.
In fact, they gave up the fumble and easy 7 points to OU.

We do not have a winning offense. A winning offense would have seized those opportunities and given Texas a commanding 3 possession lead in the first quarter.

A winning offense would have seized the momentum late in the first half against Cal and built on the back2back stops the defense had produced. A winning offense would not have laid an egg in the 3rd quarter.

Most of you cite excuses ( Shane is a freshman ) for the offense's ineptitude or lapses.
The bottom line is that we do not have a winning offense - yet.

 

[clob94]

I do not agree with this at all.

Look at the 1st quarter.
With around a minute left in the quarter,
The Texas defense had produced more turnovers (2) than the offense had 1st downs (0). The offense had just produced 5 yards on its 3 or 4 possessions.
In fact, they gave up the fumble and easy 7 points to OU.

We do not have a winning offense. A winning offense would have seized those opportunities and given Texas a commanding 3 possession lead in the first quarter.

A winning offense would have seized the momentum late in the first half against Cal and built on the back2back stops the defense had produced. A winning offense would not have laid an egg in the 3rd quarter.

Most of you cite excuses ( Shane is a freshman ) for the offense's ineptitude or lapses.
The bottom line is that we do not have a winning offense - yet.

Jesus H Christ on crutches---- you're not seeing the big picture. Your D should under no circumstances be surrendering 45 points a game! Period!

Any idiot with a vcr can go "well ya, if they'd have done exactly THIS on offense at exactly THIS moment then......blah blah blah." But in real life, football games don't always go as scripted.

Bottom line is, you HAVE to be more critical OF the offense BECAUSE the D is playing so fvcking poorly.

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

UT offense - 5th best in UT history. UT defense - worst in UT history. Plain & simple.

 

[ryan_sublett]

Has the offense missed some chances? Yeah. Has it bad struggles at times? Yes but when you have a freshman QB, Freshman center, and first year of a system for everyone you are going to have some mistakes made. The only thing that matters right now is if they are scoring enough points to win games. That answer is yes

 

[GuaranteedFresh!]

Jesus H Christ on crutches---- you're not seeing the big picture. Your D should under no circumstances be surrendering 45 points a game! Period!

Any idiot with a vcr can go "well ya, if they'd have done exactly THIS on offense at exactly THIS moment then......blah blah blah." But in real life, football games don't always go as scripted.

Bottom line is, you HAVE to be more critical OF the offense BECAUSE the D is playing so fvcking poorly.

Sooooooooo you're saying you still rock the ole vcr? Better be a damn HI-FI with the tracking adjust knob and FFwd option to keep up.

 

[gordo107]

If UT had a defense worth speaking of, think how many more opportunities the O would have had. The offense is the last thing you need to look at on this team.

 

[clob94]

Sooooooooo you're saying you still rock the ole vcr? Better be a damn HI-FI with the tracking adjust knob and FFwd option to keep up.

HA! I put dvr in and autocorrect.....

 

[Mister Moses]

Mississippi scored 43 points vs Alabama this year and last year. I say the same about OU's offense in Dallas. Shane had some costly mistakes and so did Baker. A Texas poster said Texas only scored 3 on the 4 turnovers. Oklahoma stopped drives with mistakes, so they lost some scoring opportunities.

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

UT offense - 5th best in UT history. UT defense - worst in UT history. Plain & simple.

Who are the 4 UT offenses better than the 2016 version? 3 of the 4 best UT offenses were good enough to win 3 national titles at Texas (2 under Coach Royal and 1 under Coach Brown in 2005). The 2004 UT offense was the other. Texas went 12-1 and won the Rose Bowl that year.

So, we have the next best offense at Texas after to those. We have a winning offense.

 

[clob94]

I'm going to guess 2008, 2009, for sure 2005--- then I'm stumped....

 

[TexExSpur]

The offense sputters at times, but they're doing their job and they're not giving up 680 yards and 45 points in a single game.

 

[LongfellowDrew]

D sucks O is doing the job to win the game. I've never seen a Texas team score so many points a game but still lose. Sad!

 

[madcow12]

The O is carrying the team..if this team had last years offense we would be 0-5 . We have a TRUE FRESHMAN, so without him, we would not have won a game yet.

 

[bubba2023]

My only criticism of the offense is not utilizing the middle of the field. I don't know the reasoning why we don't go over the middle. Other than that, I don't know how you could expect more with a freshman QB. Offense is making plenty of plays despite being young.

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

I just read, "Texas went 225-3 when scoring 40 or more points before Charlie Strong. Texas is 4-4 when they score 40 or more under him."

 

[clob94]

I just read, "Texas went 225-3 when scoring 40 or more points before Charlie Strong. Texas is 4-4 when they score 40 or more under him."

I just spit out my oatmeal.

Are you serious? Link?

 

[TexExSpur]

I just spit out my oatmeal.

Are you serious? Link?

It's true

 

[bubba2023]

A lot of that is different eras, but still.

 

[TexExSpur]

A lot of that is different eras, but still.

It is going to be a while before the defenses catch up in this modern era of offense.

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

I just spit out my oatmeal.

Are you serious? Link?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256953&page=145

From Drew Lieberman's Twitter

 

[LongfellowDrew]

I just read, "Texas went 225-3 when scoring 40 or more points before Charlie Strong. Texas is 4-4 when they score 40 or more under him."

Like I said I've never seen a Texas team that has scored so many points and still lose. It's crazy. Is there a team this season avg. what we do and have a .500 or worse record?

Just looked it up. Anyone that is avg. around 40+ a game is doing better(3-2 or better) than us, CAL is the only .500 team. This tells me our D sucks ass but we already knew that now didn't we.