The Morning After: Colorado State Edition

[clob94]

I was too busy enjoying watching us systematically dismantle CSU to be hyper critical.
Unless your name was "Jumping Jake Majors", I really didn't yell at you.


But here's the deal-- I've watched the game twice today-- in between golden beet puree and European Goat milk formula feedings- I managed to cobble together a decent report card from last night.

Our pass rush sucks fvcking donkey balls and it's going to cost us a game if we don't step it the fvck up.
Amazing what happens when you lose a nose tackle/3 tech that draws a double team every fvcking play. Get better boys. Rapidly. Or else.

Our defensive speed on the edge is pretty impressive- but Meat-Chicken is going to run right at us. Their goal will be to shorten this game as much as possible, giving us few chances on offense. Meat-chicken will try and win this thing 17-10, while rushing 45 times.
Beware-- putting 8 in the box can be dangerous. That's what they're going to try and force us to do. Then they'll go up top.

Quinn--- you looked pretty darn good at times. I still haven't seen you throw the deep out like you did against Bama 2 years ago. If you can stand on it and deliver that- you'll boat race them.
Find that arm buddy. Find it.

Meat-chicken will dare us to run the ball. They WANT us to shorten this game. Sark can be hard headed about running--- I still believe that if we run the ball 10-15 more times against Washington-- we win that game. We have GOT to find a way to run the ball against Meat-chicken. If we can put 175+ on them- game over. If we can go for 2 hundy-- we will win by double digits.

Finally- and not to be repetitive-- we have to hit their QB. He thinks he's a tough guy. I have a feeling that he isn't. Let's find out.

 

[westx]

Makes sense. But, being hopeful for the DL to improve is probably a lost cause. Broughton, Lolè, Savea and Ole Bill are seniors, so if they haven’t improved by now…. They are definitely serviceable, just not disruptors. Maybe January and Mitchell can step up

 

[hookem777]

I was too busy enjoying watching us systematically dismantle CSU to be hyper critical.
Unless your name was "Jumping Jake Majors", I really didn't yell at you.


But here's the deal-- I've watched the game twice today-- in between golden beet puree and European Goat milk formula feedings- I managed to cobble together a decent report card from last night.

Our pass rush sucks fvcking donkey balls and it's going to cost us a game if we don't step it the fvck up.
Amazing what happens when you lose a nose tackle/3 tech that draws a double team every fvcking play. Get better boys. Rapidly. Or else.

Our defensive speed on the edge is pretty impressive- but Meat-Chicken is going to run right at us. Their goal will be to shorten this game as much as possible, giving us few chances on offense. Meat-chicken will try and win this thing 17-10, while rushing 45 times.
Beware-- putting 8 in the box can be dangerous. That's what they're going to try and force us to do. Then they'll go up top.

Quinn--- you looked pretty darn good at times. I still haven't seen you throw the deep out like you did against Bama 2 years ago. If you can stand on it and deliver that- you'll boat race them.
Find that arm buddy. Find it.

Meat-chicken will dare us to run the ball. They WANT us to shorten this game. Sark can be hard headed about running--- I still believe that if we run the ball 10-15 more times against Washington-- we win that game. We have GOT to find a way to run the ball against Meat-chicken. If we can put 175+ on them- game over. If we can go for 2 hundy-- we will win by double digits.

Finally- and not to be repetitive-- we have to hit their QB. He thinks he's a tough guy. I have a feeling that he isn't. Let's find out.

thoughts on manning as the future when quinn leaves?

 

[clob94]

thoughts on manning as the future when quinn leaves?

Too early to tell.

Nothing to complain about though.

 

[weevilcatch]

I was too busy enjoying watching us systematically dismantle CSU to be hyper critical.
Unless your name was "Jumping Jake Majors", I really didn't yell at you.


But here's the deal-- I've watched the game twice today-- in between golden beet puree and European Goat milk formula feedings- I managed to cobble together a decent report card from last night.

Our pass rush sucks fvcking donkey balls and it's going to cost us a game if we don't step it the fvck up.
Amazing what happens when you lose a nose tackle/3 tech that draws a double team every fvcking play. Get better boys. Rapidly. Or else.

Our defensive speed on the edge is pretty impressive- but Meat-Chicken is going to run right at us. Their goal will be to shorten this game as much as possible, giving us few chances on offense. Meat-chicken will try and win this thing 17-10, while rushing 45 times.
Beware-- putting 8 in the box can be dangerous. That's what they're going to try and force us to do. Then they'll go up top.

Quinn--- you looked pretty darn good at times. I still haven't seen you throw the deep out like you did against Bama 2 years ago. If you can stand on it and deliver that- you'll boat race them.
Find that arm buddy. Find it.

Meat-chicken will dare us to run the ball. They WANT us to shorten this game. Sark can be hard headed about running--- I still believe that if we run the ball 10-15 more times against Washington-- we win that game. We have GOT to find a way to run the ball against Meat-chicken. If we can put 175+ on them- game over. If we can go for 2 hundy-- we will win by double digits.

Finally- and not to be repetitive-- we have to hit their QB. He thinks he's a tough guy. I have a feeling that he isn't. Let's find out.

Good stuff as always.

I didn't rewatch...probably won't have time.

Pass rush -- I'm hoping we were playing as straight up as possible. I don't recall many 5 man pressures, but I know there were some. I don't remember a single 6 man pressure. Also, I don't remember too much stunting and twisting up front. Did you notice if we played straight up more than normal? Alfred Collins, buddy, it's time. Agree with Clob here. You have way too much raw ability to not be a monster.

Also, clob, it seemed like we rotated....A LOT up front. Did you notice that too?

Michigan will definitely try and run right at us...counter, quick counter, fold, etc. One thing I noticed was how much faster Gbenda was at reading a key, seeing a hole and filling that muhfugga. There were some instances where we didn't fit very well either. Michigan will gash our ass if we don't fit properly.

Clob, I guess after the injury Quinn is just a finesse passer now. I haven't seen him let a rip either. And I haven't seen a QB at Texas with a quicker freaking release than Arch...ever. Dude cocks and fires in a hurry.

This is a game we will find out if Blue is the real deal, or if he is just a nice piece in a 2 or 3 headed monster, which isn't all bad either. I think #9 earned himself some more carries...especially in short yardage or 2nd and mediums

Yes, put that QB on his ass as many times as you can!

 

[TexSon74]

I was disappointed with the sack total vs Colorado State. I hope Sark is saving much of the playbook for Michigan, et al on defense and didn't want to show future opponents what to expect.

 

[weevilcatch]

Makes sense. But, being hopeful for the DL to improve is probably a lost cause. Broughton, Lolè, Savea and Ole Bill are seniors, so if they haven’t improved by now…. They are definitely serviceable, just not disruptors. Maybe January and Mitchell can step up

Partially disagree. Byron Murphy grew a TON just last year. At no point did anyone ever say he was a 1st rounder. Then boom, all of a sudden as a Junior he figured it out. He only started 1 game as a Sophomore.

And Sweat was really just a rotation piece up until last year, which he was a 5th year Senior.

Reason I partially disagree is if we get to Mississippi State and Broughton, Collins, Norton, etc. can tie up 3 of the OL between 2 of them at a time, then yes, they are what they are.

 

[oldhorn2]

Agree that Manning looked like better than the real deal.......but that cannot overshadow what Quin did. He made that one td pass across the field that was a pure NFL throw......but that "Magic Johnson" no look pass for a TD was beyond belief. I have to think there is no defense for it. The more I saw it the more amazing it looked. Then I saw a clip of Ant Hill saying he was so tired of trying to defend that in practice, he was glad it was another team trying to stop it....

This is gonna be a special year

 

[hookem777]

Quinns no look pass was money

 

[oldhorn2]

I could not upload the Ant Hill clip on X where he says....yeah, it doesnt surprise me. He has got me so many times on theat no look pass.....I am glad we are playing someone else....

If you can find the clip watch it

 

[txleapd]

I couldn’t find the video of the interview, but I did find this.

https://www.si.com/college/texas/n...ly-not-practicing-vs-quinn-ewers-01j6npc4rp14

 

[westx]

Partially disagree. Byron Murphy grew a TON just last year. At no point did anyone ever say he was a 1st rounder. Then boom, all of a sudden as a Junior he figured it out. He only started 1 game as a Sophomore.

And Sweat was really just a rotation piece up until last year, which he was a 5th year Senior.

Reason I partially disagree is if we get to Mississippi State and Broughton, Collins, Norton, etc. can tie up 3 of the OL between 2 of them at a time, then yes, they are what they are.

I shouldn’t say that they are only servicable. They are good DLs. Just not the disrupting type of player needed to win a natty. I hope you are right and they can improve game by game because that is what is desperately needed.

 

[Drtxhorn]

Michigan will absolutely try to run the ball down our throats and turn the game into a slugfest. I’m sure, like us and most other top 10 programs, they didn’t show much of the playbook on both sides of the ball during week 1. This week is when the season really begins. I expect that we’ll be showing a lot of stacked fronts on defense to force them to throw the ball against our elite secondary playmakers. If we can force them into a bunch of 3rd down passing plays we can start to mess with their QB’s mind with a mixture of blitzes and zone coverages. We’ll have him seeing ghosts after a while and he won’t know what to do. We must win the turnover battle for this one.

 

[Etlonghorn]

Michigan will absolutely try to run the ball down our throats and turn the game into a slugfest. I’m sure, like us and most other top 10 programs, they didn’t show much of the playbook on both sides of the ball during week 1. This week is when the season really begins. I expect that we’ll be showing a lot of stacked fronts on defense to force them to throw the ball against our elite secondary playmakers. If we can force them into a bunch of 3rd down passing plays we can start to mess with their QB’s mind with a mixture of blitzes and zone coverages. We’ll have him seeing ghosts after a while and he won’t know what to do. We must win the turnover battle for this one.

I hope you’re right but I still say if our interior DL is what we want them to be, we line up and beat Colorado State playing vanilla D. I’ve watched the game 3 times snd i still haven’t seen 15 make a play.

 

[ElDiabloTejano]

colorado state has a catch and release passing game-- we weren't going to get sacks against them if we had dronett, patton and jeter and added in sergio kindle. you don't blitz teams that get rid of it quickly-- you're just eliminating guys you need in coverage and to run to the ball.

my biggest concern is possibly a stylistic concern. i'd rather have a johnathan brooks go for runs of 7, 5, and 6, than a guy to go for 2, 15, and 1. they're both 3 carries for 18 yards but i like to know what i'm getting every time the ball is handed off. it's the old barry sanders-emmitt smith argument... which by the way the correct was and is THURMAN THOMAS. point is, when it's 3rd and 3, yeah we might break a tackle and go 70... but we also might dance in the hole and get stuck for a loss of 2. my personal opinion. carry on.

 

[weevilcatch]

I shouldn’t say that they are only servicable. They are good DLs. Just not the disrupting type of player needed to win a natty. I hope you are right and they can improve game by game because that is what is desperately needed.

I said they can, not that they will LOLOL.

Seriously though, Broughton showed some promise in pass downs and Collins showed some promise in run downs. Not great, but above average. They both only played 22 snaps.

 

[westx]

I said they can, not that they will LOLOL.

Seriously though, Broughton showed some promise in pass downs and Collins showed some promise in run downs. Not great, but above average. They both only played 22 snaps.

He did have a good game. I watched Alex Dunlap of OB youtube video and he was complimenting Broughton. I know Dunlap really analyzes the OL/DL. Apparently, Baker has been working his footwork and it showed. That is definitely encouraging. However, Collins was inexplicably on the milk carton.

 

[DHHorn]

It looked to me that we didn't show anything on defense. Just sat back and kept everything in front of us. We tackled good which was good to see.

 

[clob94]

It looked to me that we didn't show anything on defense. Just sat back and kept everything in front of us. We tackled good which was good to see.

Defense is what it is-- there's not a lot of "special packages" you can run outside of certain stunts and blitzes. Maybe a D-line shift or two.
That doesn't concern me. What concerns me is that it looks like we'll have to send 5 to get to the QB-- and that sh!t can get you in trouble.

 

[weevilcatch]

It looked to me that we didn't show anything on defense. Just sat back and kept everything in front of us. We tackled good which was good to see.

Also rotated...a bunch.

By my count we played 34 guys on defense

 

[clob94]

Also rotated...a bunch.

By my count we played 34 guys on defense

And when you can get 34 guys on the field and still preserve the shut out-- that's a good thing.

 

[weevilcatch]

And when you can get 34 guys on the field and still preserve the shut out-- that's a good thing.

Exactly!

I don't think this is a top 10 defense, but I do think it is a top 30/35 defense. Really, really good offenses will be able to put up yards and points, but I don't think we will lose if we can find a way to 31 or more points....1 loss at most. Hope I'm right, lol

 

[outhereincali]

Exactly!

I don't think this is a top 10 defense, but I do think it is a top 30/35 defense. Really, really good offenses will be able to put up yards and points, but I don't think we will lose if we can find a way to 31 or more points....1 loss at most. Hope I'm right, lol

I think we can be a top 10 defense. We'll know for sure after Oklahoma and Georgia.

 

[RainyTX81]

colorado state has a catch and release passing game-- we weren't going to get sacks against them if we had dronett, patton and jeter and added in sergio kindle. you don't blitz teams that get rid of it quickly-- you're just eliminating guys you need in coverage and to run to the ball.

my biggest concern is possibly a stylistic concern. i'd rather have a johnathan brooks go for runs of 7, 5, and 6, than a guy to go for 2, 15, and 1. they're both 3 carries for 18 yards but i like to know what i'm getting every time the ball is handed off. it's the old barry sanders-emmitt smith argument... which by the way the correct was and is THURMAN THOMAS. point is, when it's 3rd and 3, yeah we might break a tackle and go 70... but we also might dance in the hole and get stuck for a loss of 2. my personal opinion. carry on.

I completely agree. I really like what I saw out of Gibson. He had more burst than when I saw him at the spring game. He could very well be that thumper to go along with Blue and Wisner

 

[outhereincali]

And when you can get 34 guys on the field and still preserve the shut out-- that's a good thing.

Well if you have 34 guys on the field at the same time they'll never even get a first down let alone a td.

 

[DrinkToIt]

I was too busy enjoying watching us systematically dismantle CSU to be hyper critical.
Unless your name was "Jumping Jake Majors", I really didn't yell at you.


But here's the deal-- I've watched the game twice today-- in between golden beet puree and European Goat milk formula feedings- I managed to cobble together a decent report card from last night.

Our pass rush sucks fvcking donkey balls and it's going to cost us a game if we don't step it the fvck up.
Amazing what happens when you lose a nose tackle/3 tech that draws a double team every fvcking play. Get better boys. Rapidly. Or else.

Our defensive speed on the edge is pretty impressive- but Meat-Chicken is going to run right at us. Their goal will be to shorten this game as much as possible, giving us few chances on offense. Meat-chicken will try and win this thing 17-10, while rushing 45 times.
Beware-- putting 8 in the box can be dangerous. That's what they're going to try and force us to do. Then they'll go up top.

Quinn--- you looked pretty darn good at times. I still haven't seen you throw the deep out like you did against Bama 2 years ago. If you can stand on it and deliver that- you'll boat race them.
Find that arm buddy. Find it.

Meat-chicken will dare us to run the ball. They WANT us to shorten this game. Sark can be hard headed about running--- I still believe that if we run the ball 10-15 more times against Washington-- we win that game. We have GOT to find a way to run the ball against Meat-chicken. If we can put 175+ on them- game over. If we can go for 2 hundy-- we will win by double digits.

Finally- and not to be repetitive-- we have to hit their QB. He thinks he's a tough guy. I have a feeling that he isn't. Let's find out.

What, no top 10 Eagles songs? Oh right this isn't a Ketch thread. Whoopsie!

 

[westx]

I think we can be a top 10 defense. We'll know for sure after Oklahoma and Georgia.

Michigan has a very good defense. After this game, we’ll know a lot more about our OL, run game, and offense in general.

 

[outhereincali]

Michigan has a very good defense. After this game, we’ll know a lot more about our OL, run game, and offense in general.

Listen they won the NC last year and rightfully so. It'll be close no doubt and you're right they do have a good defense. It's not arrogant but they lost so many players and their hc you have to wonder.

 

[Etlonghorn]

Listen they won the NC last year and rightfully so. It'll be close no doubt and you're right they do have a good defense. It's not arrogant but they lost so many players and their hc you have to wonder.

They did win last year but they got lucky in the draw. I still say we would have smashed them last year. Our D line was a matchup nightmare for what they did offensively.
This year. We should win by 2 TDs if we play to our talent.

 

[weevilcatch]

I think we can be a top 10 defense. We'll know for sure after Oklahoma and Georgia.

I don't see it. We lack a pass rush and LB depth. Secondary has to gel as well. I don't think our D is elite, but it can be very, very good

 

[hookem777]

There is no reason Texas shouldn't win how Georgia beat Clemson ..I say it SHOULD be around 38-17 Texas if we play how we are capable

 

[clob94]

What, no top 10 Eagles songs? Oh right this isn't a Ketch thread. Whoopsie!

Eagles songs?

Wtf?

 

[westx]

There is no reason Texas shouldn't win how Georgia beat Clemson ..I say it SHOULD be around 38-17 Texas if we play how we are capable

Georgia and Clemmy were 0-0 until halfway through the 2nd qtr. Then 6-0 at the half. Let’s hope none of the Texas “Arch whores” don’t begin bitching before the half when it turns out to be a difficult task to score on Michigan.

 

[Hoookem722]

Colorado State's time to throw was 2.1 seconds. There isn't a pass rusher in the world that is going to get sacks with that quick of a time to throw from the offense. Don't think last week was a good indicator of what our pass rush really was. The defensive scheme was really vanilla as well. I expect a lot more games up front and LBs coming this week. When your defense pitches a shutout and hardly lets the other team cross midfield I have zero complaints. And Colorado State isn't a bad offense at all.

 

[txleapd]

I read a post-game article from another site that basically said the same thing. CSU’s offense scheme is focused around quick passes, which means few sacks. I think they called it “catch and release” or something like that. I can’t remember.