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So how do Irish fans really feel about the Game?

Antsy,--- N.D. should win,but, - Texas is a lot better than last year, - it is going to be real hot, - two QB's might not be good, - I wonder if the Defense is up to it, - let's light another candle and pray for a good start to the season. Oh, - and another Tullamore Dew, bartender.
 
I'm not saying they won't or can't be, but how exactly is Texas alot better than last year when no one has played a game yet?
 
Texex idk, I have no idea because Ou has played zero downs as of yet.i have made the statement we have a lot of holes to fill.
 
Texex idk, I have no idea because Ou has played zero downs as of yet.i have made the statement we have a lot of holes to fill.
Well, because we recruited well, and some major positions of need have been filled with more talented players than the guy who filled it last year. It may take a few games to gel, but generally speaking, when the team is more talented you get better results.
 
I can only speak for myself and Im more of a wait and see type fan. The OP posted as though it was a fact which I consider (I'll be nice) not smart. Potential is well..... potential. That's it
 
I can only speak for myself and Im more of a wait and see type fan. The OP posted as though it was a fact which I consider (I'll be nice) not smart. Potential is well..... potential. That's it
This isn't really going out on a limb, but here goes! Texas will be a better squad top to bottom than last year. Better offense scheme plus personal, better defense based on returning starts/competition and better special teams namely at kicker. Yes, this team will be better than the 5-7 2015 team.
 
In your opinion right?;)
Based on the reality of recruiting over upperclassmen and a proven system, I'm sorry to disappoint you but this squad isn't going to take a step back from 2015. In my opinion, they'll play like a young team, but they're going to be salty.
 
I can only speak for myself and Im more of a wait and see type fan. The OP posted as though it was a fact which I consider (I'll be nice) not smart. Potential is well..... potential. That's it
"Potential means you ain't done it yet" - DKR

OUleg is commandeering this post with semantics. The point of the OP was that even ND fans think Texas is better. This has also been the consensus of multiple national media outlets and football analysts. It simply feels good that us orange kool-aid drinking fans aren't the only ones saying it.

To make OULegacy happy we should be saying Texas is going to be better, or will likely be better, or I think Texas will be better. If you want to nitpick, go track down the original poster and criticize him.
 
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It's real simple...Based on the items I mentioned above:

You can bank on this... Avatar wager if you'd like, but I prefer cash.

There will be a passing game
A QB will emerge
There will be a potent running game
Defense can only improve, 107th in 2015
No Special Teams blunders


Mas better
 
Back on topic, I know many of us Texas fans are quite optimistic. I think we should keep expectations in check but it is nice to see other fan bases and analyst high on the horns. I posted this elsewhere but 3 Bleacher Report analyst predicted our season at 9-3, 9-3, and 10-2 (Big 12 champs). This along with ESPNs Tom Luginbill predicting we win the Big 12 (as well as beat ND). Are we crazy to think we will see 9-10 wins this year, maybe, but we ain't the only crazy ones.

http://www.burntorangenation.com/2016/7/19/12230438/texas-longhorns-win-big-12-espn
http://bleacherreport.com/video_emb...9ca7-9022567bae1d&library=video-cms&tagID=425
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...-jackets-phil-steele-most-improved-teams-2016
 
Bwilk as I stated I'm not saying it won't or could not happen. Not trying to be a jerk, but it can't get much worse than the past 2 years. If I had to predict? I see Nd winning easily. Not last year easy, but I could see it by 14-17 points
 
Bwilk as I stated I'm not saying it won't or could not happen. Not trying to be a jerk, but it can't get much worse than the past 2 years. If I had to predict? I see Nd winning easily. Not last year easy, but I could see it by 14-17 points
From your lips to Gods ear,sure hope you are right.
Actually I was quoting the feelings of N.D. fans,not making statements of fact.
 
Just as a matter of logic...ND's question marks on offense are at reciever. Texas Strong suit on defense is the secondary. Texas is probably going to look to run the ball quite a bit on offense. This does not have the feeling of a game that's going to end up with in a super lopsided score. ND may win convincingly, I just don't see a blow out on the horizon.
 
Just as a matter of logic...ND's question marks on offense are at reciever. Texas Strong suit on defense is the secondary. Texas is probably going to look to run the ball quite a bit on offense. This does not have the feeling of a game that's going to end up with in a super lopsided score. ND may win convincingly, I just don't see a blow out on the horizon.

I think it will be a ground & pound game on both sides.
I think the outcome depends on how ND calls the game on offense. If ND decides to throw it around a lot one of two things will happen, it works (then they win big) or it does not (& they lose).
That is why I want ND to just run the ball & win a close, good game. I don't think they can win big that way, but probably not lose either.

If ND comes out slinging the ball around & it doesn't work I feel Texas will win because ND does not have a shutdown D.
 
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I can only speak for myself and Im more of a wait and see type fan. The OP posted as though it was a fact which I consider (I'll be nice) not smart. Potential is well..... potential. That's it

C'mon.

I could be wrong and confusing you with one of the other OU posters. But I'm pretty sure you have said good things about how you think OU will perform this upcoming season. But silly UT fan isn't allowed to think we'll be better. OK.


And to the comments on you think ND will beat us easily by at least 14-17.....just saying you probably felt the same way about OU last year in the RRS game. Potential isn't always just potential.



To the point on Texas. I think its fair to say we will win more games and play better than last year. We really only got luck on 1 win (I'd say the BU game we won thanks to BU injuries). In other games, we competed and were the 'unlucky' ones. Safe to say we pull out more of the coin toss games this year than last. Still get blasted in a game or 3. And dominate a few games ourselves.

Chief reasons why:
1) We return a lot of young talent that is now more experienced
2) We have a new offense
3) We have an actual QB who can complete a pass, sure he is you and there will be growing pains.....but he is a better passer than anything we have had in awhile

This is the same team that punched a very good OU team in the mouth last season and dominated the line of scrimmage. Now it was inconsistent and failed to show up in other games. But you can't act like you don't see the potential can be realized. I say that and I think personally we will likely get blasted in the RRS game this year.
 
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Jsto I stated a few weeks ago that if our oline doesn't improve we will see the same thing again from physical teams, that includes Texas .
 
Every fan base that didn't finish with a conference championship expects the team to be better the following year. Of course we all know that just as often as not, the team gets worse or doesn't take a step forward. With that said, its hard to see how Texas won't improve in 2016.
OC: We had Watson (terrible) for a game then essentially did not have an OC for the remainder of the year. Along with that, we essentially had no offensive scheme.
QB: We have Buchele now, but even if he is a total bust, we still have the previous two starters. Hard to see how we could get less production out of this group.
RB: Yes, Foreman and Warren were on the roster last year, but the coaches stubbornly gave Grey, who was not 100%, a majority of the carries for the first eight games. Foreman started breaking big run after big run, on limited carries, and in the last third of the season finally started getting more reps.
WR: Burt and Foreman have a year under their belt, and are now joined by Johnson, a giant, and Duvernay, who no one we play, on any team, will be able to keep up with.
Secondary: All the stars last year were freshman. Enough said.
Linebacker: We have one of, if not the best, in the country, who again, was a freshman last year.
O-line: Again, the two stars in this unit last year were freshman, and we add the best recruit in the country for early depth who will eventually probably start.
D-line: This is going to be an adventure the first few games, but we recruited 5 top class linemen, and by mid season I expect this unit to be a strength.
Kicker: Kicking alone cost us two wins last year. A grad transfer fell out of the sky.

Of course everything could go horribly wrong, but there are many, many reasons to expect this group to improve.
 
I keep hearing that our offense will be improved due to better scheme and such, and I believe that to be true. But more to the point, for me anyway, is the fact that I believe we will at least have agreement and cohesive thought on offense which we have not had in the last several years.....between Wickline, Watson and Norvil we had SO much trouble in even getting a play in. When you have to call a timeout because the clock has run out COMING OUT OF A TIMEOUT.....well that tells you all you need to know about confusion on the sidelines. I hold Strong responsible for allowing that to continue for as long as it did. .

At any rate, that alone should make us better by subtracting the confusion.
 
Getting rid of Watson was simply addition by subtraction. Ask nebraska, ask colorado. Watson became the typical wilting flower the moment he arrived. Big stadium, bright lights and a head coaching job on the horizon if he succeeded here. But instead of sticking to a meat and potatoes game plan, he wanted to show people how complex and intricate his play calling could be. That's an OC who THINKS he's playing chess and everybody else is playing checkers. This causes you to get up in your own head and over think sh!t. And Watson over cooked his own goose. Watson took HIS offense and tried to make our talent fit it- instead of adjusting his offense to suit our talent. The list of coaches that can take ANY talent and make them fit into their offense is a very short one--- and Watson ain't on it.
 
Getting rid of Watson was simply addition by subtraction. Ask nebraska, ask colorado. Watson became the typical wilting flower the moment he arrived. Big stadium, bright lights and a head coaching job on the horizon if he succeeded here. But instead of sticking to a meat and potatoes game plan, he wanted to show people how complex and intricate his play calling could be. That's an OC who THINKS he's playing chess and everybody else is playing checkers. This causes you to get up in your own head and over think sh!t. And Watson over cooked his own goose. Watson took HIS offense and tried to make our talent fit it- instead of adjusting his offense to suit our talent. The list of coaches that can take ANY talent and make them fit into their offense is a very short one--- and Watson ain't on it.

I was furious when Watson was hired, so much so that I was accused of being a troll on some sites. He had essentially failed at every OC job he had, other than with Bridgewater at Louisville. He was the mastermind behind the worst offense in football at Nebraska (you can add Texas to that now).
I was, and am, convinced, that Strong was given the job with the understanding that he would be given a blank check to go make a homerun hire at OC. Instead, he did a few interviews for show, then gave Watson a huge pay raise to come to Texas.
I'm not going to pretend that I am brilliant with X's and O's, but his game plan essentially relied on every player on offense being better than every player on the defense. The passing game relied on excellent protection, precise timing, and accurate throws into very tight windows. The running game relied on the running backs being able to beat or brake the tackles of unblocked defenders. It completely failed at masking weaknesses or leaning on strengths, which is essential in college football. It also completely lacked imagination, so it was very easy for our opponents to prepare for.

This is beating a fired horse, but, there is every reason to be optimistic that a new OC is in town. Watson wasn't just thrown under the bus (see A&M) for the HC to save face. It had to happen for the team to make any type of progress.
 
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Horn...I agree with everything but the part about Strong being given a blank check to make a home run hire at OC....Everything I have read and heard is contrary to that. I do believe that Strong was given the impression that he would have that, but all the evidence is that he was in fact handcuffed in that regard.
 
Horn...I agree with everything but the part about Strong being given a blank check to make a home run hire at OC....Everything I have read and heard is contrary to that. I do believe that Strong was given the impression that he would have that, but all the evidence is that he was in fact handcuffed in that regard.
Didn't Watson make in the 750 grand range? 3 years ago that doesn't seem so bad.
 
Getting rid of Watson was simply addition by subtraction. Ask nebraska, ask colorado. Watson became the typical wilting flower the moment he arrived. Big stadium, bright lights and a head coaching job on the horizon if he succeeded here. But instead of sticking to a meat and potatoes game plan, he wanted to show people how complex and intricate his play calling could be... Watson took HIS offense and tried to make our talent fit it- instead of adjusting his offense to suit our talent.
Truth.

I tried to find it, but failed.... Somewhere there's a spring or summer 2015 interview of Watson saying that he listened to and liked some of the suggestions (then) new coach Jeff Traylor would make in their O-meetings. Said he was a very smart guy. Of course, Watson did nothing with Trayor's ideas. NOTHING.
 
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Horn...I agree with everything but the part about Strong being given a blank check to make a home run hire at OC....Everything I have read and heard is contrary to that. I do believe that Strong was given the impression that he would have that, but all the evidence is that he was in fact handcuffed in that regard.
You could be right. At least it would explain that decision, well, kind of.
 
Getting rid of Watson was simply addition by subtraction. Ask nebraska, ask colorado. Watson became the typical wilting flower the moment he arrived. Big stadium, bright lights and a head coaching job on the horizon if he succeeded here. But instead of sticking to a meat and potatoes game plan, he wanted to show people how complex and intricate his play calling could be. That's an OC who THINKS he's playing chess and everybody else is playing checkers. This causes you to get up in your own head and over think sh!t. And Watson over cooked his own goose. Watson took HIS offense and tried to make our talent fit it- instead of adjusting his offense to suit our talent. The list of coaches that can take ANY talent and make them fit into their offense is a very short one--- and Watson ain't on it.
Agree. I think Watson is obviously the reason no qb's wanted to come to Texas.
 
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