Uhhmmm.....My aggy nerve is twitching...
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Oldschoolcat, you'll note that you're the aggy on a Longhorn site, not the other way around. And you're calling Scholz obsessed, lol? Do you walk into other people's houses and criticize their taste in furniture, food, décor, etc?
Not sure calling it someone's "home" is accurate. More like a bar that is open to the public and advertises on their marquis "Come on in and talk Longhorn Sports with Aggies, Sooners, and all the other crazies". And then when someone says something you disagree with you ask them why they're here?
Not sure calling everyone you disagree with a racist is Longhorn Sports. But I'll stand down.
OS, you missed my point. The irony/point is you're calling someone "obsessed" when you're on that fan's board.
Clob,
I think Shaka has a better shot at doing something at Texas than Strong does. However, I have said even with Sumlin that he needed to get his guys in place before we judged him. He had his guys in place last year and underachieved and a train wreck has happened. I don't think Strong has it, but this year should be a year to start judging him. Shaka I'm just messing with you guys with. I mentioned on here before that he was a guy that I would love to have. I think he will be able to snag some great talent and begin to move to the really quick athletic kids that can run his press he likes to run. Texas did well because the kids Shaka had to work with were not his type of kids at all besides a couple of them. I did say that I wasn't huge on the X's and O's part of Shaka's offensive system, but I that isn't what he is known for. He will get lots of turnovers and score points off turnovers, offensive rebounds, etc.
And for the record clob, I have never praised Kennedy's coaching abilities. I said even this year that Kennedy has all kinds of talent, but they play as if they have no clue what they are doing. They had a bunch of kids that tried really hard and never quit, but they had no idea what they were doing on offense. It's one of the worst systems I've ever seen. I'll agree with you and we can bash Kennedy together.
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I don't think Strong has it Scholz. Until he proves me wrong I'm standing by that. BUT, this would be the year to judge. This will be a very telling year coming up for Strong.
Well, he hasn't done it at Texas yet. Can't argue that. I can however point out that he has more skins on the wall than Rummy and I would also submit the aggy time frame for judging coaches is more critical when it comes to Strong. Your coach is going into year 5, ours year 3. When is Drunklin's time up in your estimation? He's finished in 7th, 9th and 8th place in your conference the past 3 years.
He has no skins as a head coach though which is what he is getting measured by now. I agree with you on Sumlin. I said that in another post. I start looking at year 3 and I said last year was Sumlin's year to shine with no excuses. He didn't. I said I was on the fence with Sumlin last year. I'm not anymore. He has proven that he can't manage a team. His specialty supposedly is offense, but yet he couldn't manage the disaster that was happening with Spav's offense. He is a horrible game mananger and can't make adjustments to save his live on the offensive side of the ball. I believe he is trying to bring in a tougher nosed staff to clean up some of the soft side of the Aggies, but you can't rely on that when you yourself are a players coach who isn't going to get in their face and challenge them.
Strong has been going down hill the first 2 years as well. His game management appears to be just as bad if not worse. To be only linked with Iowa St and Kansas as the only Big 12 schools to not make a bowl game is a big time low. He had talent on those last 2 teams.
Huh? You mean besides two conference championships and a BCS win as HC of Louisville? Like I said, Strong has skins on the wall as a head coach. Drunklin does not. At least you're being honest about your coach's complete failure.
Disagree. We're a QB away. Strong's recruiting has taken off in the past 2 classes.
Ok, he got a BCS win, but we see it all the time where coaches win in lesser conferences and get promoted to a better team in a better conference and do absolutely nothing. To me he looks absolutely lost. Scheme wise, game management, etc. You are right his recruiting has been pretty good especially for how lousy they have played. This is his year to get things right. If you guys don't see improvement then I think he is gone. To me he should win 8 games at least this year.
You aggsy better pray every night that Strong can't get it done, if he turns this thing around he will be going Alabama level of recruiting and you will be in for a long long drought....oh wait, your in the middle of a 77 year drought right now. Well he will be extending it for another 10 years.
Then again, if does get fired and Herman comes in your still in for a 15 year drought as he looks like the next Urban Meyer.
Then again, if does get fired and Herman comes in your still in for a 15 year drought as he looks like the next Urban Meyer.
And 2 conference championships. Why do you keep ignoring those? Honest much? We're talking about skins on the wall as a HC. You were wrong and continue to be wrong about Strong's accomplishments.
BTW, Strong beat an $EC$EC$EC team in that Sugar Bowl. And as far as "lesser conferences", your drunk loser of a HC hasn't won a conference title anywhere.
And your coach? I thought he was supposed to be an offensive wizard? Yet he was relying on the likes of a newb like Spavital? What a complete failure. Strong has proven he can get it done. Your coach took you guys to the cleaners. He's just cashing paychecks at this point and doesn't even bust it recruiting anymore. He's never won anything anywhere and never will.
And your coach? He's going into year 5. When is he expected to do anything? I love how you guys think Strong is on a hotter seat in year 3 than Rummy in year 5.
Why are we stuck on Sumlin? I've agreed with you. If Sumlin doesn't do anything next year I think he needs to be gone. He has had time. Things are only getting worse there with his loss of 2 5 star quarterbacks and inability to oversee things on the defensive side or offensive side. He has underachieved. I'm not ignoring the conference championships but did you look at who they beat? Can you see why a conference championship isn't that great? You don't think Sumlin and Manziel would have run through that 2013 schedule with ease and we could say Sumlin would have conference championships as well. Florida was a good win for him but you and I know both know bowl season is unpredictable. If we are going off of one game that Strong won against Florida then you have to go Sumlin beat Alabama at Alabama. Tell me what is impressive about his conference titles with these schedules
2012 schedule
kentucky
missouri st
north carolina
FIU
Southern Miss
Pitt
USF
Cincinnati
Temple
Syracuse
Uconn
Rutgers
2013
Ohio
Eastern Kentucky
Kentucky
FIU
Temple
Rutgers
UCF
USF
U Conn
Houston
Memphis
Cincinnati
Miami
You can have Herman. As for the if Strong turns it around things will go Alabama like, I can't really disagree with you on that. I don't know though, Alabama is a beast right now with Saban. I don't sit around too much thinking of who Texas will hire or not. I just want A&M to get one right. Fran, Sherm, and now Sumlin have been well below average.
The guy before him wasn't beating those teams. And Strong was the coach at Louisville -- not Alabama or Florida or Texas. A number of those programs are surrounded by a hell of a lot more local talent than Louisville.
You're missing the point. Sumlin had his chance at a non-P5 school (surrounded by a massive football talent hotbed), and he didn't win sh*t. And he immediately followed Art Briles, who left him a program in much better shape than the one Strong inherited from Kragthorpe. The argument is not what Sumlin would have done with his P5 players at aggy against a non-P5 schedule.
Fair point about P5 players vs non P5 players, but I will stand with the thought that many still struggle when they can't take multiple weeks off in a row during a season. I know the Big 12 isn't great right now, but you still have to bring a good game plan in or you're going to get beat. He lost to some crappy teams and again I say he just looked lost at times. I know you guys are heading into another season and of course there is optimism, but don't forget what these boards looked like all during the past 2 seasons. You guys were saying the same things. More than half of you wanted him gone last year.
A) Because you're criticizing Strong when he has skins on the wall an Rummy doesn't.
B) Because you're giving Rummy 5 years (maybe more) but think Strong should definitely be gone after 3.
Syllogism: If A + B Then Hypocrisy
Yes, lesser conference. You've said. Yet Strong still has 2 conference championships and a BCS win as a head coach. He's proven he can win. Rummy hasn't won jack squat and never will. And if he'd won his "lesser conference" at Houston, you'd be touting it and you know it.
Yes, he won that one game at Bama. Still no titles.
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Strong has skins on the wall. I'm not sure he'll succeed at Texas. This job might be too much for him. But if his tenure at Texas doesn't work, it will be the first time he has coached at the collegiate level and not experienced a high level of success that I am aware of. He may not be a great fit for Texas, but the man has proven that he can win.
He was also using players on par with those schools and turning them into high level NFL draft picks. Strong proved he can get it done on that level and use his lower tier players to beat teams like Florida.
I'd take him in a heartbeat. He is a guy that can in his first year take sub-par players and beat FSU.
Agree 100%, I'm sorry he had to deal with that buffoon of an AD we had. Things might have been a little different under what is our current leadership.
