USF VS SJST

[ryan_sublett]

Strong was a bad hire. He was in way over his head at Texas and it sorely showed. Losing to Kansas, KANSAS was the final straw. Thankfully he's gone. I like Texas' chances with Herman.

And thats why I've said not all the failures were on him. It was a bad fit from the get go, boosters weren't on board, the AD wasn't respected. Not to mention the firing of Mack was messy. Even if Strong were successful I don't think it was a marragie that was ever going to be long term.

Herman has a much better shot at being successful because everyone seems united behind him and it's a better fit.

 

[cwillfromdatx]

And thats why I've said not all the failures were on him. It was a bad fit from the get go, boosters weren't on board, the AD wasn't respected. Not to mention the firing of Mack was messy. Even if Strong were successful I don't think it was a marragie that was ever going to be long term.

Herman has a much better shot at being successful because everyone seems united behind him and it's a better fit.

I can agree with this. Also, we haven't had a QB as well. We had Ash but we remember how that turned out. Just like his Center. Hopefully, our new HC can change the culture. If we don't get good QB play this season and next, Herman will most likely be gone also. I don't think he will be gone but you'll never know.

 

[LonghornMM]

And thats why I've said not all the failures were on him. It was a bad fit from the get go, boosters weren't on board, the AD wasn't respected. Not to mention the firing of Mack was messy. Even if Strong were successful I don't think it was a marragie that was ever going to be long term.

Herman has a much better shot at being successful because everyone seems united behind him and it's a better fit.

You and others think Strong was set up to fail. He wasn't. Herman will get Texas back on track. Why? Because he's a better football coach. He's also more driven, more organized, more focused and more detail oriented than Strong.

 

[swVAHorn]

And thats why I've said not all the failures were on him. It was a bad fit from the get go, boosters weren't on board, the AD wasn't respected. Not to mention the firing of Mack was messy. Even if Strong were successful I don't think it was a marragie that was ever going to be long term.

Herman has a much better shot at being successful because everyone seems united behind him and it's a better fit.

How does having a booster "on board" make you a decent coach? How does firing Mack make you a decent coach? How does having a respected AD make you a decent coach? Strong was not successful because he is not a good coach. I stand by it. I like Strong the man.....NOT the coach.

 

[ryan_sublett]

You and others think Strong was set up to fail. He wasn't. Herman will get Texas back on track. Why? Because he's a better football coach. He's also more driven, more organized, more focused and more detail oriented than Strong.

I wouldn't say he was set up to fail. That implies that some folks were out to get Strong. I don't think that was the case. I just think you had to much going on and to many problems inside the athletic department for anyone to really succeed. Boosters with different agendas. Some were pissed at the way Mack was treated, others were pisseed that the loyalty to Mack cost us a big name(at least in their mind). Everyone hated the new AD which I'm sure is one of the reasons Strong didn't exactly get a warm welcome.

Everyone wanted Strong to get off to a fast start but the roster wasn't really conducive to that. He made some major staff errors in his first year but at the end of the day the roster was about a 6-6 roster and it had been for a few years. Then when Herman started fast at Houston I think it sort of gave the boosters who really didn't want Strong a "Texas guy" to shoot for. Once they pushed Patterson out they pretty much had the run of the place and were gonna find a way to get their guy

So I don't think Strong was set up to fail or it was personal, or racial. I just think it was a situation that almost anyone would of been swallowed up in. I truly hope that Herrman is a uniting force and our boosters don't start trying to back door the next big name after a 2 game lose streak.

 

[ryan_sublett]

How does having a booster "on board" make you a decent coach? How does firing Mack make you a decent coach? How does having a respected AD make you a decent coach? Strong was not successful because he is not a good coach. I stand by it. I like Strong the man.....NOT the coach.

Strong Is a decent coach. He made some errors here in staff hiring and probably some stubborn loyalty but he's a decent coach. He had back to back double digit win seasons and 3-1 in bowl games prior to coming to Texas. I'm not disputing that things didn't work out here at Texas but the idea that the guy can't coach is just silliness.

You know I'm as big a Texas fan as anyone but something worth pointing out.
Brian Harsin
Major applewhite
Manny Diaz

All coaches who were fall guys of sorts for the under achieving at Texas. One has turned in to a good HC. Probably gonna be a hot name for jobs the next couple years, one just landed his first head job,(I grant you major created some of his own issues) and one did a decent job in year 1 at Miami. And Charlie strong very well could win double digit games at USF in year 1. My point is if all these guys are leaving UT and having success maybe coaching isn't the sole reason for the struggles. I hope Herrman and Mike Perrin csn together provide the leadership to make this a successful athletic program again.

 

[swVAHorn]

Strong Is a decent coach. He made some errors here in staff hiring and probably some stubborn loyalty but he's a decent coach. He had back to back double digit win seasons and 3-1 in bowl games prior to coming to Texas. I'm not disputing that things didn't work out here at Texas but the idea that the guy can't coach is just silliness.

You know I'm as big a Texas fan as anyone but something worth pointing out.
Brian Harsin
Major applewhite
Manny Diaz

All coaches who were fall guys of sorts for the under achieving at Texas. One has turned in to a good HC. Probably gonna be a hot name for jobs the next couple years, one just landed his first head job,(I grant you major created some of his own issues) and one did a decent job in year 1 at Miami. And Charlie strong very well could win double digit games at USF in year 1. My point is if all these guys are leaving UT and having success maybe coaching isn't the sole reason for the struggles. I hope Herrman and Mike Perrin csn together provide the leadership to make this a successful athletic program again.

Charlie Strong SHOULD win double digit games with the team he inherited in that conference. Let's see if he does...Strong was at Louisville in a WEAK conf with a first round QB.....everything aligned for him to do well. His team there had better talent than every team he played with an argument being made for Florida. He still LOST games to inferior teams.


Brian Harsin.....you love you some Brian Harsin. What big jobs has he been talked about getting? Name 1. You are literally the only person who EVER brings Harsin up for a job.

You keep saying you are a Texas fan...but you keep talking like a Strong fan...with Harsin a close second.