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Waaaaay OT: my cousin and her "child"

I read somewhere that transistioning people have an extreemly high suicide rate and the few that actually go through the chop shop are around 1 in 4 to commit suicide. Wether they go through with it or not, they need to be involved with a therapist at least to help them try to make sense of it all. Scary stuff.
As I understand it, "transitioned " people have a higher suicide rate than those not transitioned. I think this will eventually be seen as child abuse. My youngest daughter thought she was Sheera, princess of power. Went to preschool with a plastic sword stuffed down her t shirt. She's a lawyer for Sony now, just had her second baby. If the parents could let it be, it usually goes away.
 
Honestly, I've watched family and friends raise their kids over the last 3 decades and I've been careful to pay attention to what I see...... learning from their good and bad moves.... with the thoughts that one days I'd raise my own kids using the "good" stuff I've learned from other parents.

I've come to the conclusion that most parents aren't parents to their kids.......... they want to be their child's best friend. They see their child as an extension of themselves. Example: "If my kid hits a home run, I made that possible."
However, if my kid goes to the principles office, it must be the teachers fault because my child would never act that way.

No............ your kid fvcked up, like all kids do at some point, and now your child is in need of discipline. But by some weird transference, by punishing their child, they feel as though they are punishing themselves and they fear losing that place as their child's "friend".

I'm torn because when I was a kid, my folks made it very clear: when you turn 18 and you're out on your own, then we can be friends. Until then, I'm not your friend, I'm your parent.
I thought my parents were two of the biggest a-holes on the planet until I finished school, got a job, started paying taxes and realized, hey, my folks are actually pretty cool.

I just don't know if it works that way anymore.
Clob, I will repeat this: you need to have some babies.
 
Who is they? I would think waiting until the brain develops would make some sense.
“They” being doctors that deal with this sort of therapy. The side effects of the body are less in teenagers that aren’t fully developed. That’s true of not only people who want to be the other gender, but also people who need a boosts for various reasons.
 
“They” being doctors that deal with this sort of therapy. The side effects of the body are less in teenagers that aren’t fully developed. That’s true of not only people who want to be the other gender, but also people who need a boosts for various reasons.

Oh my bad...because "they" are doctors "they" must be right!

There certainly has never been a medical decision found that does more harm than good. There has certainly never been a medicine given the okay and stuffed down people's throats that does more harm than good.

Carry on...
 
Clob, I will repeat this: you need to have some babies.
Dude, i need 5'8 to 5'11, athletic, educated, driven, sassy, and can bring traffic to a screaching halt in down town Hong Kong.

Been telling y'all to be on the lookout for the last 3 years.
 
Oh my bad...because "they" are doctors "they" must be right!

There certainly has never been a medical decision found that does more harm than good. There has certainly never been a medicine given the okay and stuffed down people's throats that does more harm than good.

Carry on...
So you're saying you're not a big fan of electroshock therapy? Debbie downer....
 
“They” being doctors that deal with this sort of therapy. The side effects of the body are less in teenagers that aren’t fully developed. That’s true of not only people who want to be the other gender, but also people who need a boosts for various reasons.
They (World Health Organization) also thought being transgender was a mental disorder until political pressure changed their opinions in 2017. They classified it in a similar way as being bipolar, or a pedophile, or any other mental affliction. They changed their minds due to a vote, not scientific research. They need money, and don't like geting killed in the press.

But it is sad, so I shouldn't be a jerk. Sorry.

By the way, if a 21 year old man wants surgery, I say pass the scissors his/her way. Just wait until they are adults.
 
They (World Health Organization) also thought being transgender was a mental disorder until political pressure changed their opinions in 2017. They classified it in a similar way as being bipolar, or a pedophile, or any other mental affliction. They changed their minds due to a vote, not scientific research. They need money, and don't like geting killed in the press.

But it is sad, so I shouldn't be a jerk. Sorry.

By the way, if a 21 year old man wants surgery, I say pass the scissors his/her way. Just wait until they are adults.

Transgender people do have a mental disorder, and should be treated as such with psychiatric treatment, not given a PC pass. Political correctness is screwing up the world today.
 
Oh my bad...because "they" are doctors "they" must be right!

There certainly has never been a medical decision found that does more harm than good. There has certainly never been a medicine given the okay and stuffed down people's throats that does more harm than good.

Carry on...
Alcohol & lebodomies were pretty popular in medical world at one time as well.
 
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Dude, i need 5'8 to 5'11, athletic, educated, driven, sassy, and can bring traffic to a screaching halt in down town Hong Kong.

Been telling y'all to be on the lookout for the last 3 years.

Just hang out at the Randalls in Westlake or Whole Foods downtown. Youll find her in 2 hours.

Just make sure she didnt used to be a he.
 
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Transgender people do have a mental disorder, and should be treated as such with psychiatric treatment, not given a PC pass. Political correctness is screwing up the world today.

So true. Teenage kids just don't know enough to make a well informed decision about transition therapy. All they hear is a culture saying it's ok and parents who also fall in line with the pc way of thinking. A decision like that requires careful and deliberate consideration by a well informed and mature adult. The best thing a parent can do is to be honest with them about what they think of the situation. If the parents are against it and believe it's in the kid's best interest to mature and learn more, then the kid needs to respect and heed that advice.

Hell, I want a full head of hair but that ain't going to happen unless I make a decision to change my appearance through surgery. Or, I can just accept that's how it's going to be for me. I truly believe that parents don't emphasize enough to their kids that they're valued and special exactly as they are. There's no need to try and be someone that you're not. Accept who you are and embrace it.

As for Club's 73 year old Mom, she should call her grandchild whatever she wants. If the grandchild and the parents don't like it they need to maybe not be so judgmental and intolerant of her traditional views on life.
 
So you're saying you're not a big fan of electroshock therapy? Debbie downer....[/QUO Prefrontal lobotomy was much worse. Very fashionable for the well to do. Like Rose Kennedy or my first ex mother-in-law.
 
Perhaps suggest your niece see a professional counselor? May he or she can help her understand what is going on within her. I firmly believe that you're who you're born as, a male is a male and will always be a male, and a female vice versa.
You can believe it, but that doesn't make it true. I went to grade school with a gay kid. Back then people didn't talk much about being gay and nobody called him "gay" in school. I found out many years later that he is now openly gay. My immediate reaction was...yup, makes total sense. He was as gay as Jack from Will & Grace. He just didn't understand it yet.

I've met or known quite a few gay people. I have yet to hear a gay person who describes "choosing" to be gay. It wasn't that long ago that people in some places faced chemical castration (Alan Turing) or even death (Probably still true in some Islamic countries today) for having same sex relations. If it were all about choice, wouldn't it make sense for everybody to choose to conform.

Also,assuming it's a choice, then presumably you would also be able to choose to be gay. What would it take for you to kiss another guy? What would it take for you to do more? Would you throw up first? (I would.) So if being gay is clearly not for everybody, why is it that being straight should be?
 
You can believe it, but that doesn't make it true. I went to grade school with a gay kid. Back then people didn't talk much about being gay and nobody called him "gay" in school. I found out many years later that he is now openly gay. My immediate reaction was...yup, makes total sense. He was as gay as Jack from Will & Grace. He just didn't understand it yet.

I've met or known quite a few gay people. I have yet to hear a gay person who describes "choosing" to be gay. It wasn't that long ago that people in some places faced chemical castration (Alan Turing) or even death (Probably still true in some Islamic countries today) for having same sex relations. If it were all about choice, wouldn't it make sense for everybody to choose to conform.

Also,assuming it's a choice, then presumably you would also be able to choose to be gay. What would it take for you to kiss another guy? What would it take for you to do more? Would you throw up first? (I would.) So if being gay is clearly not for everybody, why is it that being straight should be?

I never said anything about gays. I was referring to transgender people.
 
You can believe it, but that doesn't make it true. I went to grade school with a gay kid. Back then people didn't talk much about being gay and nobody called him "gay" in school. I found out many years later that he is now openly gay. My immediate reaction was...yup, makes total sense. He was as gay as Jack from Will & Grace. He just didn't understand it yet.

I've met or known quite a few gay people. I have yet to hear a gay person who describes "choosing" to be gay. It wasn't that long ago that people in some places faced chemical castration (Alan Turing) or even death (Probably still true in some Islamic countries today) for having same sex relations. If it were all about choice, wouldn't it make sense for everybody to choose to conform.

Also,assuming it's a choice, then presumably you would also be able to choose to be gay. What would it take for you to kiss another guy? What would it take for you to do more? Would you throw up first? (I would.) So if being gay is clearly not for everybody, why is it that being straight should be?
There's a big difference in being gay and chopping your nuts off.
 
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I never said anything about gays. I was referring to transgender people.
My bad. I really know/understand very little about transgender people. I haven't known anybody who is, so I don't have a frame of reference on that.

Obviously changing gender is a choice. But that choice requires a lot of money and pain to do, so I can't imagine anyone has done so lightly. I have no idea if the driver is chemical or emotional. Either way, we live in a country that is founded on the idea that we are allowed to pursue happiness so long as we don't step on the rights of others.

If it were my child, I'm not sure what I would do. I would want to support my kid, but I have no idea if people who transition end up being happier afterwards. Also, I would wonder at what age it would be appropriate.
 
You can believe it, but that doesn't make it true. I went to grade school with a gay kid. Back then people didn't talk much about being gay and nobody called him "gay" in school. I found out many years later that he is now openly gay. My immediate reaction was...yup, makes total sense. He was as gay as Jack from Will & Grace. He just didn't understand it yet.

I've met or known quite a few gay people. I have yet to hear a gay person who describes "choosing" to be gay. It wasn't that long ago that people in some places faced chemical castration (Alan Turing) or even death (Probably still true in some Islamic countries today) for having same sex relations. If it were all about choice, wouldn't it make sense for everybody to choose to conform.

Also,assuming it's a choice, then presumably you would also be able to choose to be gay. What would it take for you to kiss another guy? What would it take for you to do more? Would you throw up first? (I would.) So if being gay is clearly not for everybody, why is it that being straight should be?
Oh good grief. Ghey. Your classmate should have just prayed it away.
 
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It's a mental disorder, and should be treated as such. I'll defer to the medical community for solutions.

Gender reassignment and transitioning is a feel good band aid for everyone else who lacks the stones to say they need real help.
 
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