When you point out the fact that Texas scored their most points when...

[Hooked24_7]

Shane Buchele was playing, but say that Shane struggles to move the ball and want to forget about the fact that he o-line struggled the entire year. They say this although Shane has proven that he can make plays and get it done. I guess we’ll just keep playing people based upon the “It factor.”

 

[DHHorn]

Give me a break, Shane is no better than Sam. Sam just makes stupid mistakes at the worst possible times. Our QB situation is not doing anyone any favors by having to play true freshman. We won't be good until we have a veteran QBs.

 

[gordo107]

Perhaps the Offense would perform better if they would stop with the package for this player, package for that player and player rotations crap. Put your 11 best on the field period. When Young is running well and hard, they pull him after two plays WTF.... remember the good old days when a running back played most of the downs? If he's running well, let him run till he is stopped. If you have a receiver who is hot, why would you pull him? What am I missing? Were packing ourselves right out of the games.

 

[2300 Nueces]

Perhaps the Offense would perform better if they would stop with the package for this player, package for that player and player rotations crap. Put your 11 best on the field period. When Young is running well and hard, they pull him after two plays WTF.... remember the good old days when a running back played most of the downs? If he's running well, let him run till he is stopped. If you have a receiver who is hot, why would you pull him? What am I missing? Were packing ourselves right out of the games.

The days of Texas being different are over, we look like every other middling team out there. Nothing unique.... same plays, same crap. Next we'll be changing uniforms every game.

 

[crazypatriotguy]

Shane Buchele was playing, but say that Shane struggles to move the ball and want to forget about the fact that he o-line struggled the entire year. They say this although Shane has proven that he can make plays and get it done. I guess we’ll just keep playing people based upon the “It factor.”

So how are you related to Shane? I assume you're related or know him well because you've posted literally nothing since you've joined except defense of him.

 

[Hooked24_7]

Say what you want, but I know for a fact that Shane wouldn’t have thrown the game away like yesterday. Shane also has shown that he can put up numbers to be successful. Don’t pretend that the o-line was not good this year which hampered his abilities. Many time he couldn’t even take a three step drop before they were in the back field. Furthermore, it’s not just stupid mistakes during important times in the game. Sam makes about three really good plays per game and people fell in love with the idea that he has been great, but when you look at the final score, he’s averaging somewhere around 20 points per game.

 

[Hooked24_7]

I’m his brother. I figured, I’d defend him since nobody else will.

 

[Hooked24_7]

By the way, is there anything that I said that was untrue?

 

[crazypatriotguy]

I’m his brother. I figured, I’d defend him since nobody else will.

I don't have any issue with him personally. But you said it yourself, the OL has been terrible and he's getting hit before he can throw. So what does playing Shane instead of Sam solve in terms of the OL issues?

I was at the Texans-Jaguars game in week 1 this season. Houston's OL was dreadfully bad in that game, giving up I think 8 sacks in the 1st half. They put in Watsob to start the 3rd quarter. Some of his throws and some of his decisions were terrible, getting away with a couple because of penalties. But his ability to avoid the rush kept the offense on the field and provided a bit of a spark.

As for Shane, I think he can be a fine QB but because of the state of our OL, Sam is our best bet. Does that change? We'll see.

 

[Hooked24_7]

I think he would have been more than capable of playing against Texas Tech and West Virginia. My thing is if Sam is struggling then put Shane in. I think if you would go back and watch games that Sam has played in, you would see the mistakes that he constantly make. But because he have about three really great plays per game, people are willing to overlook his errors and say that he has this it factor that Shane doesn’t. But when you look at the end of the games, the amount of points that the offense puts up when he’s in the game is not that spectacular as people would have you to believe.

 

[mm42]

Hooked24_7. Is Shane planning to stay regardless of playing time? He is one big hit from being the guy.

 

[TX1972]

Give me a break, Shane is no better than Sam. Sam just makes stupid mistakes at the worst possible times. Our QB situation is not doing anyone any favors by having to play true freshman. We won't be good until we have a veteran QBs.

So avoiding stupid mistakes doesn't make you better? I think when the line was totally inept, Sam was the better choice. Now that it has improved a little, I think it's Shane. He would have won last night.

 

[DHHorn]

I agree, Sam lost the game. I'm sure if they had known he would throw two ints to give the game to Tech that they would have played Shane. If they would have played Shane and we still lost then everyone would be criticizing why they didn't play Sam. I'm glad I'm not the coach.

 

[LonghornMM]

If Ehlinger doesn't throw the pick near the end of the game, people wouldn't be losing their minds today calling Tom Herman a fraud or a bad hire. People would be saying how well Texas had played in the last three games and how the program is headed in the right direction going into the bowl game. Sam just made a bad decision and it cost the Horns the game. Hopefully Herman will show improvement next year and the years following.

Hook'em!

 

[brushycreekhorn]

If Sam just pulled the boneheaded disaster play once then I can see staying with him. But 2,3 and 4 times? If you can’t learn from mistakes then you have to move on.....

 

[DHHorn]

If Sam just pulled the boneheaded disaster play once then I can see staying with him. But 2,3 and 4 times? If you can’t learn from mistakes then you have to move on.....

Sadly that's a lot clearer today.

 

[LonghornMM]

If Sam just pulled the boneheaded disaster play once then I can see staying with him. But 2,3 and 4 times? If you can’t learn from mistakes then you have to move on.....

The unfortunate thing is, Ehlinger is much better than the alternative, Buechele. I like Sam, but he's not the long term answer at QB under Herman at Texas. We need a Greg Ward type of athlete/QB for his system.

 

[UTGrad87]

I'm not sure Shane is the answer for our Longhorns. He has good touch but lacks arm strength and speed. Can he improve those 2 things? Perhaps if he dedicates himself to the weight room in the off season??

But I can positively tell you guys who isn't the answer and that is Sam. He has the touch of a blacksmith and the brains of a village idiot. I know he's a freshmen but Boo didn't do the stupid things last year that Sam has done this year. So that's not a good excuse.

I doubt Sam will be able to improve his touch, he should have that already and doesn't. And the mental aspects? That doesn't look promising either because he didnt improve during the course of the year. In fact he looked worse against Tech than he did against USC.

Sam has 2 things . . . a strong arm and good legs. But that is not enough. Me thinks the next good Texas QB is still in HS. God this narrative is getting old!

Oh yeah, FIRE TIM BECK!

 

[oakforest horn]

I’m his brother. I figured, I’d defend him since nobody else will.

Your brother needs to do what is best for his future. If that is a degree from Texas he will stay. If it's playing time and a chance to improve, it will be somewhere else. This coaching staff has done Shane no flavors. He is not put in position to win or maximize what he does best.
Shane is a slighter build and to run him like Sam is not his best skill. It might also get him injured long-term. My hope for him is to sit out next year, graduate and play immediately at a school that will utilize his talent.

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

This year, Shane has 6 TDs & 4 interceptions with 199 pass attempts for 1350 yards & a completion percentage of 65.8%. Shane also rushed for 2 TDs, 87 yards (1.5 avg), & caught no passes.

Sam has 10 TDs & 7 interceptions with 260 pass attempts for 1803 yards & a completion percentage of 56.5%. Sam also rushed for 2 TDs, 364 yards (3.5 avg), & caught 2 passes for 50 yards.

Basically, both are flawed QBs.

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

This year, Shane has proven he will throw an interception 2% of the time & a TD 3% of the time.

This year, Sam has proven he will throw an interception 2.7% of the time & a TD 3.8% of the time.

There isn’t much difference between the 2 QBs in production & flaws.

 

[Hooked24_7]

I doubt it. So, he can just be replaced once Sam is healed. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice....

 

[Hooked24_7]

the Difference is Shane didn’t win the game for the other team on 4 different occasions.

 

[LonghornMM]

Given what QB's Texas has on the current roster, IMO Ehlinger gives the Horns the best chance to win.

 

[Hooked24_7]

Hey, I was just kidding about Shane being my brother. I was responding to someone who had a problem with me advocating for Shane’s lack of playing time.

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

the Difference is Shane didn’t win the game for the other team on 4 different occasions.

Statistics show that he throws interceptions at nearly the same rate as Sam but scores less often.

You gotta score to have the lead.

 

[Hooked24_7]

I believe Shane played in 4 of 5 games with the highest point totals the team had this season. So, points are not a problem. It’s easy to compare the interceptions and say they had about the same, but compare when and what were the circumstances when the interceptions were thrown.

 

[T_R_U_T_H]

You can discuss the qbs all you want. But inexperienced need a coach to put them in position to succeed and that includes what players are around him as well as the play calls.

 

[Hooked24_7]

There in lies the problem. Many of you want the quarterback to run and catch the ball. I want a quarterback who can, manage the team, read defenses, make accurate pass, and don’t give the game away. What’s the purpose of a running back and wide receiver if he’s performing those duties as well as qb?

 

[Hooked24_7]

Agreed, people wouldn’t be near as harsh, but I have been checking out Sam’s performance and in most games he’s played, he has about two great drives and people think he’s great. And because he’s looks energetic, people say he has the it factor and believed he was the savior of the team until last night.

 

[Hooked24_7]

I agree, things need to change. The quarterbacks need help. The o-line was a major problem this year, but Shane is not good because the offense gets bogged down because others around him are committing penalties. Case in point when he got into the game that one series last night and the two series against West Virginia before he was replaced. You can go on and on if you go and look at he games he played. It’s the o-line coach to prepare the o-line and get them prepared. Most of the time the drives were stalled because they don’t know how to pass block and would get flags as opposed to run blocking. The two are very different in technique.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

If Ehlinger doesn't throw the pick near the end of the game, people wouldn't be losing their minds today calling Tom Herman a fraud or a bad hire. People would be saying how well Texas had played in the last three games and how the program is headed in the right direction going into the bowl game. Sam just made a bad decision and it cost the Horns the game. Hopefully Herman will show improvement next year and the years following.

Hook'em!

I don't think it's that simple. There are plenty of us whose bullishness for this program would remain muted for every bit as long as Herman failed to acknowledge and remedy the fact that he hired a known-quantity incompetent for an OC.

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

I believe Shane played in 4 of 5 games with the highest point totals the team had this season. So, points are not a problem. It’s easy to compare the interceptions and say they had about the same, but compare when and what were the circumstances when the interceptions were thrown.

The stats show that points are a problem. Did you watch the USC game?
Shane threw 6 TDs. That equals 36 points before the PAT. That is his season.

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

The entire offense had a bad year - coaches & players - all of them. We don’t have a competent offensive line or QB. We don’t have reliable receivers. Our OC sucks.

 

[Hooked24_7]

I agree. Lil Jordan, Collins, Hemphill-Mapps, and Foreman would be receivers that would never come out of the games if they were playing for me. You may see them in the first quarter and may not see them again until the third quarter.