Zach Sanchez declared for the draft

[outhereincali]

siap

For all his faults, tackling techniques, he was a heckuva shutdown corner. He had a few sacks on some blitzes, got Heard a couple of times. He's skinny, but if be can get stronger on work on tackling skills he can be a starting cb in the NFL.

I thought Sanchez and Sterling Sheppard were Oklahoma's best players last year and next to Mayfield's mental health replacing those two will be the question marks at OK next year.

 

[Fizzwilly]

siap

For all his faults, tackling techniques, he was a heckuva shutdown corner. He had a few sacks on some blitzes, got Heard a couple of times. He's skinny, but if be can get stronger on work on tackling skills he can be a starting cb in the NFL.

I thought Sanchez and Sterling Sheppard were Oklahoma's best players last year and next to Mayfield's mental health replacing those two will be the question marks at OK next year.

Sanchez is probably too small to play long in the league but few people at his size could have done the job at corner in a power 5 conference that Zac did. He played hurt almost all season and still had an AA year. Best of luck to a very good Sooner. OU doesn't have any WR that is close to the quality of Sheppard for next year.

 

[oldhorn2]

mike Singletery was too small to play his position......Lee Roy Jordon was too small to play his position....sometimes it goes back to the old axiom ....it ain't the size of the dog in the fight........

 

[jsto60]

Best of luck to him. He has a shot to make it in the NFL.

One of those guys that had a nice college career. Could have benefitted from another year in college. But can't blame him for leaving. I won't miss him playing against us.

 

[outhereincali]

ZS seemed to have incredible timing for interceptions. Everyone he made came at a crucial time. I'm still mad about that pick six from two years ago in the RRR.

And his ability in run stopping improved a lot last year.

He's a good player I hope he makes it.

 

[oldhorn2]

guys go to college to learn how to make more money than if they went to trade school.If he makes it then that is exactly what he will do. Good luck to the young man. Good luck also to Ridgeway....We always wish they could have stuck around to help US...but in the end they have to do what is best for them.

 

[BOVINEFAN]

Not sure if he's an NFL player. Good man coverage, but looks like he's playing touch football when tackling. He needs to get bigger and more physical.

 

[MiccoMacey]

Not sure if he's an NFL player. Good man coverage, but looks like he's playing touch football when tackling. He needs to get bigger and more physical.

I agree. The most frustrating thing about watching him was his complete inability to tackle.

I'll be rooting for him, but I suspect he doesn't fare as well as he hopes he will in the draft.

 

[Schoonerman]

He kind of reminds me of Deion Sanders. Shutdown corner on WRs, but a non-factor when needed to stop the running game. Although he did improve this year with his open-field tackling, his ability cover and make a big INT was among the best to have ever played the position at OU. Sorry to see him go, but his size in the NFL is a concern, especially going up against guys who have four or five inches in height and about 30 more pounds of muscle.

 

[bubba2023]

Reminds me of Deion too

 

[MiccoMacey]

He kind of reminds me of Deion Sanders. Shutdown corner on WRs, but a non-factor when needed to stop the running game. Although he did improve this year with his open-field tackling, his ability cover and make a big INT was among the best to have ever played the position at OU. Sorry to see him go, but his size in the NFL is a concern, especially going up against guys who have four or five inches in height and about 30 more pounds of muscle.

I personally think you're being a bit too generous about his coverage skills, but there's no doubt he seemed to have an eye for the ball. He's not the top CB under Stoops, much less OU. That's just my opinion.

But I'm not trying to turn this into a "hate on Sanchez" thread. Good luck to him in the future.

 

[jsto60]

Why stop at Deion. Why not a mix of Deion, Revis, C.Woodson, R.Woodson, C.Bailey, D.Green, Lane, Haynes, and Blount.

I always thought Colvin was a better cover corner and tackle and on the same roster. But you convinced me, Sanchez should be the overall #1 pick and then some and makes Colvin look like a high school corner.



Now excuse me while I go to SS to compare Garrett Gilbert to Tom Brady and Case McCoy to Drew Brees and see how that goes over.

 

[Schoonerman]

Why stop at Deion. Why not a mix of Deion, Revis, C.Woodson, R.Woodson, C.Bailey, D.Green, Lane, Haynes, and Blount.

I always thought Colvin was a better cover corner and tackle and on the same roster. But you convinced me, Sanchez should be the overall #1 pick and then some and makes Colvin look like a high school corner.



Now excuse me while I go to SS to compare Garrett Gilbert to Tom Brady and Case McCoy to Drew Brees and see how that goes over.

Guess you didn't read and/or understand my post. I said he "kind of reminds me of Deion." I never said he was on the same level as him or the guys you mentioned, but he was a very good CB for OU. Like Deion, he was a good coverage guy, but his tackling ability left much to be desired. I also said he was a very good corner, but was lacking in size, which will be an issue when going up against pro WRs. I will agree that Colvin was the all-around better CB, but Sanchez is no slouch himself. Lighten up old man.

 

[bubba2023]

Reminds you of the HOF CB that is regarded as one of the greatest CBs to ever play? The only way he reminds me of Deion is both are terrible choices to run a high school.

 

[MiccoMacey]

Will do.

 

[jsto60]

Guess you didn't read and/or understand my post. I said he "kind of reminds me of Deion." I never said he was on the same level as him or the guys you mentioned, but he was a very good CB for OU. Like Deion, he was a good coverage guy, but his tackling ability left much to be desired. I also said he was a very good corner, but was lacking in size, which will be an issue when going up against pro WRs. I will agree that Colvin was the all-around better CB, but Sanchez is no slouch himself. Lighten up old man.

So I'm not an old man. Far from it. But thanks for the personal attack.


For your next trick, tell me how Baker Mayfield reminds you of Brett Favre. He kinda reminds me of him, in that he often loses big games with heartbreaking INTs.

 

[Fizzwilly]

So I'm not an old man. Far from it. But thanks for the personal attack.


For your next trick, tell me how Baker Mayfield reminds you of Brett Favre. He kinda reminds me of him, in that he often loses big games with heartbreaking INTs.

JSTO, has been monumentally wrong about Mayfield all year. Name a game where the game was lost due to an interception. His interception to pass ratio is one of the best in the NCAA.

 

[jsto60]

JSTO, has been monumentally wrong about Mayfield all year. Name a game where the game was lost due to an interception. His interception to pass ratio is one of the best in the NCAA.

I know you love personal attacks on me and all.

But my statements on Baker were dead on. We had this discussion in another thread. To recap (and you can use the search tool and see it, we already did).Way back around this time last year. I said Baker fits the OU system almost perfectly, he will put up stats, and he will break your heart and lose the big games. Is that not EXACTLY what he did this year?


As for the above, again I know you love to argue. But the Mayfield/Favre comments were clearly tongue and cheek. In fact, I was asking him if he was going to make the Favre/Baker comparison for his next trick and giving a funny aside to highlight the ridiculousness of all of this.

You understand sarcasm correct? Don't overanalyze it. It was all in fun to respond to a guy saying Sanchez = Deion. I like Sanchez. Very nice college player. He might make an NFL roster. But he is no Deion. And its not close. Just like Mayfield isn't Favre. And that was the point. Nice attempt at turning it in to something else that you are upset about (that being me being dead on about Baker). Thanks to the search tool, we can disprove your revisionist history.

 

[Fizzwilly]

I know you love personal attacks on me and all.

But my statements on Baker were dead on. We had this discussion in another thread. To recap (and you can use the search tool and see it, we already did).Way back around this time last year. I said Baker fits the OU system almost perfectly, he will put up stats, and he will break your heart and lose the big games. Is that not EXACTLY what he did this year?


As for the above, again I know you love to argue. But the Mayfield/Favre comments were clearly tongue and cheek. In fact, I was asking him if he was going to make the Favre/Baker comparison for his next trick and giving a funny aside to highlight the ridiculousness of all of this.

You understand sarcasm correct? Don't overanalyze it. It was all in fun to respond to a guy saying Sanchez = Deion. I like Sanchez. Very nice college player. He might make an NFL roster. But he is no Deion. And its not close. Just like Mayfield isn't Favre. And that was the point. Nice attempt at turning it in to something else that you are upset about (that being me being dead on about Baker). Thanks to the search tool, we can disprove your revisionist history.

JSTO, you said Baker would run from competition,, couldn't throw, was a punk and was interception prone. None of them were true.

 

[jsto60]

JSTO, you said Baker would run from competition,, couldn't throw, was a punk and was interception prone. None of them were true.

No. I didn't say any of that.

I said he DID run from competition at Tech. This is true, he did.

I never said he couldn't throw. And never said he was INT prone. I did however show all of his game by game stats breakdown and said he pretty much lost big games and didn't always play that well in them. That is what he does.


Seriously, I had this discussion with belldoucher and he made all sorts of crazy stuff up that I never said. What he didn't know is how handy the new search feature is here. And I dominated him with link after link saying what I actually said. Some of it was even complimentary. But I stood fast that the guy loses big games. And that is EXACTLY what he did this year.

I won't hold my breath for your response which ducks what I really said and instead makes something up to argue about nothing.

 

[Fizzwilly]

No. I didn't say any of that.

I said he DID run from competition at Tech. This is true, he did.

I never said he couldn't throw. And never said he was INT prone. I did however show all of his game by game stats breakdown and said he pretty much lost big games and didn't always play that well in them. That is what he does.


Seriously, I had this discussion with belldoucher and he made all sorts of crazy stuff up that I never said. What he didn't know is how handy the new search feature is here. And I dominated him with link after link saying what I actually said. Some of it was even complimentary. But I stood fast that the guy loses big games. And that is EXACTLY what he did this year.

I won't hold my breath for your response which ducks what I really said and instead makes something up to argue about nothing.

JSTO, you said exactly everything I said you said and you said it at the beguing of last season. You and I had a row about it because you called him a punk.

 

[jsto60]

Cool story, but not at all rooted in fact. Feel free to use the search engine.

I remember arguing about the punk thing. You got all butt hurt, as if it is unforgivable to say someone "acted like a punk on twitter and on the sideline of a game he didn't even play in". Oh the humanity. He did in fact act like a punk. His actions were those of a punk. Sorry if that upsets you. But I didn't know you were so PC gramps. Has the world so changed you that you think everyone should get participation trophies? (I went back and looked it up, you were simply butt hurt because you don't like anyone saying anything bad about poor lil blameless OU, especially since it is your job to police this UT site about all things OU and you have a double standard about how you are allowed to talk about big bad UT players)

Meanwhile you cheer for rapists and women beaters and drug users, etc. Spare me the mother teresa act again.
And most importantly, spare me your BS revisionist history while you miss the main point which was the kid will put up stats, fits the system, and will lose big games. Those were my claims on Baker. How was I wrong again?????

 

[swVAHorn]

Guess you didn't read and/or understand my post. I said he "kind of reminds me of Deion." I never said he was on the same level as him or the guys you mentioned, but he was a very good CB for OU. Like Deion, he was a good coverage guy, but his tackling ability left much to be desired. I also said he was a very good corner, but was lacking in size, which will be an issue when going up against pro WRs. I will agree that Colvin was the all-around better CB, but Sanchez is no slouch himself. Lighten up old man.

Well they BOTH play DB......so there is that. Other than that......You might as well compare a guppy to a shark....both are fish.

 

[Metcalf #2]

Stopped reading when somebody said somebody reminded them of Deion. Thread should be nuked.

 

[jsto60]

Deion was a consensus national all american twice and a Heisman candidate. Zack was a conf all team selection once.

Deion is one of, if not the best, cover corner in NFL history and a top 5 draft pick and the consensus #1 CB his draft year. Zack might be drafted by the 5th round and might make an NFL roster for a few years. His draft profile has him somewhere in the #12-20 range at his position and projected as 4th or 5th rounder, which will most likely drop as more and more guys declare.

Deion was known simply by his first name. People in this very thread (even OU fans), can't even decide if it is Zack or Zach. (PS its Zack)

See the difference?


STRENGTHS: Ballskills and the hand-eye coordination to fight for body position and make a play on the ball. Doesn't shy as a tackler and fights through bumps and bruises, showing considerable toughness for his size. His size, speed and strength are best described as average, but his instincts are above average.



WEAKNESSES: Sanchez is a string-bean with limited strength, which is exposed on his tackle attempts as he often needs help to finish guys off. He has wild footwork and lower body technique with impatient feet off the snap, allowing receivers to gain spacing and pick up chunk yardage underneath.



IN OUR VIEW: He will make some interceptions with his freelancing and ballskills, but his discipline and mechanics have shown very little improvement, which ultimately leads to negative results on the field.



--Dane Brugler (11/9/15)

 

[Mister Moses]

Jsto your kind of nutty. Go back and read your post on this thread. You're obsessed with proving your opinions was right on Baker. OU made the final four and ended up #5. Who in their right mind would find any failure in that? I already know what a bunch of responses will be. Scoreboard will be your answer. LMAO

 

[jsto60]

Jsto your kind of nutty. Go back and read your post on this thread. You're obsessed with proving your opinions was right on Baker. OU made the final four and ended up #5. Who in their right mind would find any failure in that? I already know what a bunch of responses will be. Scoreboard will be your answer. LMAO

Appreciate the opinion about my mental state.

But what I am "obsessed" with is simply the truth. Its fun to post here. What isn't fun, is when people put words in your mouths. And then spout it off as truth.

I simply want fizzy to be accurate with what I said. Instead he argues about things I never said, and then wants to argue over the meaning of punk (that was an old argument he is bringing back up for some unknown reason). And he won't touch what I actually said in the preseason because he isn't interested in being fair, just interested in attacking me.

Maybe you can answer. So I never talked about OU or the final 4 or used the word failure. I simply stated verbatim this preseason that "he fits the OU offense almost perfectly, he will put up stats, and he will lose big games". Is any of that wrong? Is any of it so crazy that it deserves fizzy to make stuff up to criticize and attack me and dodge the actual statements?



Think of how you'd feel if months from now in a random thread I mentioned this thread but instead I turned your above statement in to Moses loves Baker Mayfield and I think he had sex with him and he secretly admires Bob Stoops and thinks UT is a failure, etc. When all you were really saying is that the guy had a nice season and isn't worth all of this arguing back and forth between fizz and I. Being accurate is important. As is not putting words in ones mouth on a messageboard, since all we do here is banter back and forth. I simply ask that he criticizes what I said, not what he would like me to have said so that he can easily attack me like his obsession towards certain posters forces him to do.

 

[jsto60]

FWIW, the only thing I think is nutty in this thread is comparing Sanchez to Deion. And to randomly do what fizzy is doing. He knows from past experience, that if I simply ignore his post.....well then he can keep repeating what wasn't said and at some point people will believe his lies. Excuse me for just wanting my words to be portrayed accurately when he randomly brought the topic up.

 

[Fizzwilly]

Cool story, but not at all rooted in fact. Feel free to use the search engine.

I remember arguing about the punk thing. You got all butt hurt, as if it is unforgivable to say someone "acted like a punk on twitter and on the sideline of a game he didn't even play in". Oh the humanity. He did in fact act like a punk. His actions were those of a punk. Sorry if that upsets you. But I didn't know you were so PC gramps. Has the world so changed you that you think everyone should get participation trophies? (I went back and looked it up, you were simply butt hurt because you don't like anyone saying anything bad about poor lil blameless OU, especially since it is your job to police this UT site about all things OU and you have a double standard about how you are allowed to talk about big bad UT players)

Meanwhile you cheer for rapists and women beaters and drug users, etc. Spare me the mother teresa act again.
And most importantly, spare me your BS revisionist history while you miss the main point which was the kid will put up stats, fits the system, and will lose big games. Those were my claims on Baker. How was I wrong again?????

JSTO, since you are such a search guru, mind putting up that conversation we had on Mayfie;d. also while you are doing it pull up the thread where I am slamming Texas players.

I'll be waiting.

 

[jsto60]

JSTO, since you are such a search guru, mind putting up that conversation we had on Mayfie;d. also while you are doing it pull up the thread where I am slamming Texas players.

I'll be waiting.

So this is a waste of time. And I already did it for belldoucher in another thread. But I will do a quick one for you if it will shut you up, or better yet get you to man up and apologize (I won't hold my breath).