⛓⛓ Astros ⚾️ 117th WORLD SERIES ⚾️ Braves ⛓⛓
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The Dodgers and Giants were better than the Braves too, and maybe better than us as well. But that's why you play the games - you get hot at the right time and can grab a 7 game series from a better team. Happens all the time.
Good series Braves - definitely outplayed us. On to next year. I expect to grab a solid pitcher or two pre-season and mid-season and be right back in the mix for another title.
Really curious where all these shortstops are gonna go. There's only so many teams that can open up the wallet for a Correa, Seager, or Baez - I think we'll be at least solid there and get one of the free agents on the market.
Yep. I think Correa is going to be disappointed when he test the market. He's looking for $300m and I don't think he finds it.
I disagree. The Braves had a pretty good advantage over The Astros in starting pitching and that is what won them the series.
They could have created a dynasty with one more WS win. They still can if they can snag one in the next 3yrs or so. But they have let two huge opportunities slip away. If they couldn't get it done against these last two teams, and the Rays, who can they get it done against? And what's it going to take?
I agree. Very frustrating we lost game 4. That advantage was not there then and we blew so many opportunities. We should have come back home up 3-2. Of course if we did that and then lost both like 2019 I might be in a temporary state of depression.
Give Sherzer the JV deal. 2yrs/$65M
To me the biggest thing it is going to take is a healthy roster. I know we are not the only team thinking that, but it’s a huge piece. Last year we were without Verlander and Yordan. This year no Verlander or McCullers. Those are big losses. They may not change the outcome, but they dang sure improve your chances. Maybe we just need the Dodgers to hold up their end of the bargain in the NL so we can come in as underdogs and beat them again.
Looking at The Braves roster, they could be in for an interesting off season. Freeman, Soler, Rosario, Duvall, and Peterson are all FAs.
These guys have him listed as $26 million a year market value
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/houston-astros/
You’re putting words in my mouth. I‘ve been one of Correa’s biggest fans — not just for what he does on the field (which is a lot) but also for his leadership and clubhouse presence. I’ve said that those are things that are hard to quantify and that losing him could be much more difficult to absorb than people think.
That being said, a dollar only goes so far. If you have 50 million to spend and 80 million worth of needs (just throwing out random numbers as an example), you’ve got to try and determine which combination of signings give you the best chance of success in the years to come. All I said is that they’ve got a couple of guys who’ve been playing SS and close to breaking into the big leagues. How successful they’ll be, who knows? But, it’s fair to say there will be a drop off, certainly in the near term.
The question is how big is that drop off for the costs saved vs. the pitching holes that would still exist should they go cheap there in order to bring back Correa at all costs. I just think any pitching talent on the farm that could be reliably counted on as a SP for next season is much more speculative. Same with a shutdown BP arm although to a lesser degree. I think we’d have to go outside the organization for SP at a minimum. How much would that cost?
It’s an interesting dilemma. We’ll see how they elect to allocate funds. We’d all like to have each of our weaknesses improved with proven big league stars but it doesn’t often work that way.
I think the Astros overachieved this year and Braves were superior. 2019 will always be the one that got away.
Seen that, they peaked at the right time and that group will probably be all gone. 2019 Nationals basically say hi.
We will agree to disagree. The Astros pitching was plenty good enough save for last nights game to win this series. This offense, based on their performance all season, should not have had an issue hitting well enough against that staff to win four games. I just don't know how you could argue that. There are no Sherzer's, Strassberg's, or even Morton's on that team. Who you didn't have to face. Freid is actually their best pitcher and had a pretty good season. They don't have another starter to speak of that should have caused this lineup any issues whatsoever. Outside of Luke Jackson they didn't have a reliever that pitched that had an ERA better than 3.44. And that guy was their closer. The Astro bats are to blame for this series loss.
Good pitching usually beats good hitting.
Sounds about right to me. Maybe the Astros weren't that crazy not offering him 7yrs/$210m at the beginning of the season. But I do think he gets to $30m/per
There are a few teams that could offer him $30 million but not many. Some of these shortstops in this class are going to settle for less.
May help the Astros get a good deal on one of them if they decide not to pony up for CC.
I dont see how we figure the Astros overachieved. They were the best offensive team, the best fielding team, and their pitching was among the best in the league as well. They just played horribly in the World Series. McCullers loss was devastating.
I agree. Tough to win a series when you score 0 twice and 2 twice. Not sure what you do about that though. We have the best lineup in the game. Why all the bats go cold at the same time at various times throughout the season is a mystery to me. I would personally like to see some of the guys minorly adjust their approach, but the stats over the whole season say that is not necessary.
Don't even get me started on that at bat in the first inning. If he has a good ab there the whole tone of the game could change. Instead Fried got an important strikeout and seemed to gain confidence every pitch.
See you March 31 then. Better days are ahead.
Based on the unknown of our pitching when the season started and the long term injury to Bregman we probably did. When the season was over and all things had proven out then we were probably right on. And yes, they played terribly. I have been saying the same. It wasn't the Braves play that beat us. It was our play that beat us.
Bregman needs to for sure. I posted this yesterday. When he decided to be a power hitter he gave up the right half of the field. Pitchers adjusted. He doesn't have the power to hit HR's to all parts of the park. So they know he's sitting on middle to inside pitches. He pulls off everything else.
Looking to drive the ball instead of taking what they give and go the other way. Look all of these guys, Bregman, CC, Altuve, all USE to have great success hitting the other way. They have all abandoned that, save for a couple of instances, for the long ball. Pitchers aren't dummies.
I want to find a way to keep carlos somehow. I love that guy.
Helluva year, Astros. Thanks for the ride.
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