Well if Herman is taking over the play calling that’s a postive development. Let’s hope that’s the case.... can’t imagine Beck would want to stay in that scnerio though.
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How did Herman miss the Alignment of two important positions? Reminds me of Strong . Why didn't we moneywhip a proven OC and OL coach to begin with? Money is not an issue and I think they would have let Herman get anyone he wanted?
Yeah. When Herman was hired I wasn’t really concerned about the OC position. I assumed(doubt I was alone) that Herman would be very involved if not be the primary playcaller. It wasn’t until we got in to the season that I realized Major did the playcalling at Houston and Herman was quite admitadly against calling plays...knowing what we know now you are right we should of went out and grabbed the best OC money could buy. Which is probably what Herman needs to be the kind of CEO HC he wants to be.
I think it had more to do with not having a true AD and the politicians in Austin are waging war on everything UT. AD Del Conte already seems to be making a difference and doesn't have a 'We're Texas' mindset. We've already addressed the OL coach, there are rumors of a new play caller, and a new WR coach as well. Not sure there was anyone around that could help/stop Herman with his hires before Del Conte.
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Are we worried about to many cooks in the kitchen here on offense? As it stands right now you have Beck and Hand sharing the OC duties in some form. Plus you apperently have the possibility of Herman potentially calling plays. That seems like a lot of egos, and opinions. If not handled right it could do more harm than good
No their titles are just that. There are reasons why our offense could still struggle but not because we have too many cooks in the kitchen. Neither Beck nor Hand have any reason to have some kind of alpha ego complex especially if Herman is in the mix.
Keep in mind with being state jobs the co-OC may just be there to justify the pay and nothing more. I believe Akina held asst-HC title for the state's pay grade coding. Or a workaround around Hand's contract with AU like with Wickline.
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The two biggest criticisms this year was the Oline and the play calling. It looks like Herman hired a guy who can help out on both fronts and take over one or the other if needed. Maybe Herman wants him to help coach both areas and be a another experienced opinion. If things aren't going right he cuts the problem out and plugs Hand in. This would be easily done at anytime since Hand will be involved in both. Hand will have a hand in both.
Sorry for the stupid attempt at a joke at the end.
Sorry for the stupid attempt at a joke at the end.
That could be, but titles or not if I’m Tim Beck how do I not view this as a demotion? I went from being the OC and THE playcaller(according to Herman) to having a co OC, and maybe not calling plays. When Strong demoted Watson reportedly it created a rough enviorment among offensive coaches. That was in season which is a bit different, but if this is the route Herman is going to go(especially if he’s going to call plays) he’s probably better off letting Beck go totally.
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It has already been explained in this thread that the co-OC title means little as it could well be a pay level designation for a state employee or a work around Hand's AUbie contract terms. Akina was asst. HC for years for pay grade purposes.
It has already been explained in this thread that the co-OC title means little as it could well be a pay level designation for a state employee or a work around Hand's AUbie contract terms. Akina was asst. HC for years for pay grade purposes.
I’m aware, but it sounds like Beck went from the OC and sole playcaller to co OC with no playcalling duties(if speculation about Herman being the playcaller next year pans out). If that’s the way it shakes out that’s a demotion for Tim Beck regardless how you spin it. The titles are irelevent. I’m talking about the duties they are doing.
Look. I know you don’t like me, but nothing I’ve said Is wrong. I get the reason for the “co offensive” coordnstor title may be a paperwork thing, and that’s fine. If I were the HC though and you were my OC, and I told you “ look man I’m bringing in a coach as a co OC we have to do that in order to get him out of his contract. Oh and by the way I’ll be taking the play calling as well. Your telling me you wouldn’t be thinking “damn I just got demoted”?
Look I fully support Herman taking over playcalling duties. I think it’s very long over due, but he ought to just move on form Beck if that’s the route he’s gonna go. Program will be better off for it long term. Moves that go halfway rarely work
Look I fully support Herman taking over playcalling duties. I think it’s very long over due, but he ought to just move on form Beck if that’s the route he’s gonna go. Program will be better off for it long term. Moves that go halfway rarely work
I've search it 5 ways from Sunday and can't find anything that even suggest that TH called plays during the Texas Bowl. I'm not sure why anyone thinks that Beck has been stripped of his play-calling responsibilities.
Keep in mind that any reports about what Herman is thinking is most likely made up BS. Not a single reporter had any clue Herman was thinking of hiring Hand before it happened, and now all of a sudden they know all his plans and what he wants to do. They have no clue and I’m betting Herman isn’t done with the coaching changes. So just let it play out before getting too worked up.
If we can land these grad trasnfer OL, the hype will be real and i'll be drinking all the koolaid again!
Warehime has been reassigned to TE's coach according to his twitter profile. So where does meekins go? I've heard rumors he's going to coach Inside Wrs and Mehringer coach Outside Wrs.
whats probably going to happen is warehime will be TE (when working on run/pass block)/OT and Hand will have the entire OL but mainly focus on interior (OG/OC) and meekins will have the TE (when working on routes)/Inside Wr's
very common setup
whats probably going to happen is warehime will be TE (when working on run/pass block)/OT and Hand will have the entire OL but mainly focus on interior (OG/OC) and meekins will have the TE (when working on routes)/Inside Wr's
very common setup
I mean from a fan speculation side of things. I'm a wait and see type of fan I don't like playing the jump to conclusion game.
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