6 Bowls on New Years
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It’s been that way for much of the last decade. The amount of QBs that have been successful in college and the NFL from Texas that haven’t gone to UT is quite staggering and helps explain why we’re on our 3rd coach in 6 years.
The Cotton Bowl is listed as one of the New Year 6; however it was played on the 31st.
Had a phone call with one of my old college teammates yesterday
Him-"Man, with all this 7 on 7 stuff, Texas is cranking out some really good high school QBs."
Me- "Ya, let me know when the Horns actually recruit one."
Him- "............................................"
20 years? I'll go with 12, only because 20 years completely negates the recruitment of Vince Young (2002) and Colt McCoy (2005), two absolute successes of completely different varieties. Vince was a 5 star and top overall recruit while Colt was a 3 star from Jim Ned??
Looking at the QB classes after those two, there is a litany of highly ranked recruits at the position including 2 5 stars (Jevan Snead, John Chiles (5), Garrett Gilbert (5) of course, Connor Wood, Connor Brewer, Tyrone Swoopes, Jerrod Heard, and most recently Shane Buechele and Sam Ehlinger.
These guys all failed to make a major impact for one reason or another. It's surprising that at least one of these guys hasn't worked out (jury still out on Shane and Sam).
Unless it's a transcendent QB they aren't looking good behind bad OL, with bad WRs, and bad coaching.
Take Garrett Gilbert for instance imagine if he was ranked as a 3 star instead of a 5 star, and never went to Texas and signed with SMU. He's the exact same player but he would have had a great college career by those standards and to top it all off he was also drafted in the late rounds. He would be one of the success stories that we are wondering why we are having trouble duplicating.
Take Garrett Gilbert for instance imagine if he was ranked as a 3 star instead of a 5 star, and never went to Texas and signed with SMU. He's the exact same player but he would have had a great college career by those standards and to top it all off he was also drafted in the late rounds. He would be one of the success stories that we are wondering why we are having trouble duplicating.
That's right.
There is a relationship between the QB and Oline that has been missing since Vince and Colt left.
They can each make each other better, and we have been missing that for a while. A good QB will make an Oline look better than they are by making quick reads and getting the ball out faster. The Oline can make a Qb better by giving him a little more time. When that is working good they feed off of each other.
A good play caller is important also. They can't make a bad Oline or QB good, but they can help them out by getting them in the right situations through good play calling.
While it’s true that the OL hasn’t been great for some time... it’s also true we haven’t recruited the QB spot well... it doesn’t have to be an either or thing. Texas hasn’t had a first round nfl QB since VY.. if you want to be a national contender you have to be putting out that level of QB talent. Like USC did in the Pete Carroll era. Nick Saban is really the only coach that has been able to win big without great QBs
We’re Texas. We should be able to identify and recruit at a better rate than 2 every 20 years. Especially when one of those QBs was a kid that nobody else recruited.
I agree. I think it is interesting seeing that we have brought in a lot of guys that ranked high but have not found anyone who can really produce. It is a combination of a lot of things, coaching change, injuries, poor O-line, QB transfers and poor recruiting evaluation.
Shane and Sam have both had glimpses of getting us out of this cycle but our offense has still struggled as a whole. I'm hoping one of them can take control next year and we start a decent QB pipeline with the 3 current commits (2018 and 2019).
I think all 4 guys will get a serious look. Neither Sam nor Shane did enough to earn the job going into next fall. Whoever starts next September will have to earn it on the field.
I think one of the things that has made the OL this year look even worse is the way our QB's hold on to the football. There were a ton of play calls where the call is to have the ball out in under 3 seconds or run. Both of our QB's like to "extend" plays that shouldn't be extended. I bet if you got in the film room with Beck and Herman, they could count you 100 plays where that happened from this year. That makes a bad OL look even worse. Some of the bad OL play needs to be put on the QB's
Expecting to churn out NFL first round QBs on the reg is a ridiculous standard. Replicating Saban or Meyer isn't a realistic standard either. Prepare to be disappointed quite a bit if you think "We are Texas" should be able to accomplish that.
Who said anything about NFL 1st round QBs? We live in a state that consistently put out quality D1 QBs, how about expecting to churn out one of them on a consistent basis? At least 2 of the 4 QBs I was referring to in the original post aren’t NFL QBs and I would take either one of them.
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