Anyone already calling for a Head coaching change
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I could have sworn Strong said that all the pieces are in place for the next coach to just step in and succeed? Probably best he was let go.
Maybe so. My point is you get 1 mulligan. You fire another coach after 2 years you become the problem. So like I said Herman is here for the foreseeable future.
Sure. The money is great. The money will for sure get you the Charlie Strong, Tom Herman, PJ flecks of the world. There are reasons the more established guys are choosing to stay st their respective schools
He may not have the perfect QB for his system I'll grant that. However Shane and Sam both have skills. Herman is where he us because he's a good offensive mind. He ought to be able to develop a system that works. Even if it's not exactly what he wants to run long term.
This isn't like at the end of Macks tenure and the beginning of Strong where all you had at the QB spot was David Ash and Swoops. Neither were likely ever gonna be the answer at QB. Ash who had the best shot would of course eventually walk away
Absolutely! This can't be stated enough. The Texas QB of the future is not on campus yet, IMO. See Greg Ward type.
I found that explanation a little curious myself. I get the analytical aspect calculating the risk on going for it vs FG and punt. Gotta learn to use some common sense though. Analytics as a tool,are useful. Relying on them to much can get you in trouble.
That's code for the players didn't execute the plays properly. I believe that TH is not afraid to blast the players in public.
I agree with you on that. I would love to be able to watch the game over in slow motion and be able to see the entire field. Only being able to see part of the play is tough on tv because you can't see what is happening that well.
There is nothing that we have seen to date that suggest that Buechele or Ehlinger are as good as David Ash.
You keep saying that TH should tailor his offense to match Buechele's strength and hide his weaknesses. Maybe they have, maybe CS did. The problem is that the other teams will start to figure out that no one trust him to throw the deep out or across the middle of the field and adjust accordingly.
We should have JT Barrett's and Sam Darnold's and Josh Rosen types coming out our ears. It shouldn't take us once a decade to find a quality 4-5 star QB prospect.
I've seen you say this a few times. And while I think you are probably right. Couple things I'd point out. While Herman may not have his ideal QB on campus it's not like he lacks talent at the position. I find it hard to beleive he can't make it work with Shane or Sam.
2nd if what you say is true and he needs a Greg Ward type to run his offense are we saying herman success at Houston was as much timing as much as his ability to coach Ward was entering his Jr season
That's my skeptsim on this hire really. I can't help but wonder if the infatuation that many of the big money guys and those around the Texas program had with Herman was where he was winning and his connection to UT from being a GA. I can't help but wonder if a coaches like Brian Harsin or PJ fleck were at Houston doing what Herman was doimg if one if them would have the Texas job right now? Part of me thinks yes. And if all that is true we have a complete unknown as a coach. Not sure that's the route we should of or maybe even intended to go.
I would love to be able to watch the games in all 22 format. My understanding is that you can get a package from the NFL, but I don't think they have it for college teams.
Then let's play Sam and see what he has. If they have tailored the offense to fit Shane and it appears Shane isn't the guy. Then might as well play Sam. Imo if Herman is to be successful here he has to go in to year 2 knowing weather Shane and/or Sam is the answer at QB
You have no reason to believe that either of Texas's current QB's are as good as Greg Ward and I promise that neither of them are as good an athlete. Over the last 2 years, GW made a ton of off-schedule plays to extend drives.
If someone watched Texas and Houston last year, it would not take them very long to figure out that the best player played for Houston. TH can recruit. I promise you that the QB depth chart will look much better in 2 years.
If that's the case then throw Heard back there. He has no future at QB but he is a play maker and has some similarities to Ward from an athletic standpoint. Should at least win some games this year.
Heard is nowhere near as good a passer as GW. I promise you that TH and the offensive staff have already made the determination that Buechele give them the best option to win. Coaches don't sit around going, "Hey let's try this and see what happens".
Your right they don't. Doesn't mean they shouldn't from time to time. I don't think the gap between Sam and Shane is all that big. Last week Herman suggested Shane's hold on the job was rather tenuous
As far as Heard I agree he's not the passer Ward is but he has ovbious playmskimg ability. Which if nothing else we could use.
Yes, a talented QB makes all the difference in the world. Tom Herman's QB who runs his system is someone who has the whole package - can read defenses, has smarts, confidence that borders on arrogance, a "feel" for the field/game, a command of the whole offensive playbook, speed/elusiveness, etc. I don't see much, if any of that in Buechele. When Herman gets these types of QB's on campus, then we will see Texas take off and start to raise some eyebrows. A good, dominating defense, a dominate OL and a couple of game changing RB's can also make an average QB look great. However, we don't have any of that now, and until we do, we're going to be average, IMO.
You'd be surprised at how freaking dumb some of these kids are.... it's ridiculous!
It is the only way to know who messed up sometimes...or who made a great play. I wish they had that package in college. I didn't know until you said it that they had it for the NFL. Of course I don't watch the pro game that much.
Anytime the coach says "well he's our starter... today". That tells me the gap between you and the other guy isn't very wide. Now that could be because both guys are struggling(may be the case here) or because the 2nd guy is playing really well and closing the gap fast. Either way Herman didn't exactly give a ringing endorsement of Shane. Which is why I said I don't think the gap is big.
If I were Herman I would of played both guys against Maryland and this week, and see who took control of the job. Not like there is much to lose.
Possibly both QB's which pretty much means the season is over. Shane didn't do bad he wasn't lights out good but still put up some numbers.
Both QBs? You mean to injury? That's a risk every gsme regardless if you plan for both to see snaps or not.
Shane did throw for 375 yards on 52 attempts. That's ok not great. Offense did only put up 20 points though 3 scores were on defense and ST. In today's college football where most games tend to be a shootout that's not gonna get it done.
Now that's not all Shane we did miss 2 FGs and some of the play calling/decssion making was less than stellar.
Possibly but playing both increases the chances and as you know our depth at QB isn't deep. Why risk both when the starter is doing the most with what he's got. We didn't lose the game because of Shane we lost the game because the defense couldn't come up with stops when needed. Also not being able to run the ball because we needed to play catch up the entire game hurt as well.
You're right it's unlikely we'll get two TD's from ST but our defense should get us the ball back at least once or twice. Well that's what I hope would happen considering our D wasn't supposed to be our Achilles heel!
We lessen our mistakes especially penalties (115 yds) and we balance our offensive attack we can stay in games.
Also I'm not saying we can't get Sam reps if the game is out of reach either winning or losing but not this whole Simms vs Applewhite crap.
That's not impressive in todays game? I mean he did attempt 50+ throws but still. I agree on the points but what are you looking for in TD average 2+ a game?
Wait I just forgot Shane had 2 TD's and a rushing. Are we just counting 1 TD because you're counting the last throw as garbage time?
The difference between this and the Simms applewhite stuff was Major was clearly the better player to win games with. The coaching staff wanted Simms to play becsuse he was the prized recruit with the tools.
In this case we are trying to figure out weather Shane and/or Sam can be the guy. Only way to truly do thst is to play it out.
You know what's impressive? Nevermind, I'll just flush it and be on my way.
