BASEBALL WEEKEND SERIES THREAD: No. 19 Texas vs. BYU (Sat. 6:50 p.m. - Witt was awesome, but UT loses series-finale)

[Schloss2Texas]

He’s lacked offense since he’s been here. Kody Clemens is the only offense he has every really had. He constantly switches between bunting, hit and run and just let them hit. He’s never been consistent with anyone of them. Good coaches have a philosophy and stick to it. He doesn’t know what he wants his team to be. He has never had an identity here.

Most teams switch up their offenses consistently dependent of situations. That is what baseball is! Every team utilizes every way possible to generate offense depending on what is shown. Welcome to baseball. This whole idea that he doesn’t have a consistent offensive philosophy is just ridiculous and not based in fact. Please go in depth on the different offensive philosophies in baseball and how consistently college coaches stick to a single style throughout their career, season, and within a game.

Sorry, but he wasn’t responsible for the mess of hitters Augie left behind. Additionally, baseball players don’t hit the field until well over a year after signing. It’s not like football and basketball. Furthermore, our offenses were just fine in his second year and last year. He’s only had one poor year thus far and it was a nightmare scenario.

 

[Htown2utSAhorn13]

Most teams switch up their offenses consistently dependent of situations. That is what baseball is! Every team utilizes every way possible to generate offense depending on what is shown. Welcome to baseball. This whole idea that he doesn’t have a consistent offensive philosophy is just ridiculous and not based in fact. Please go in depth on the different offensive philosophies in baseball and how consistently college coaches stick to a single style throughout their career, season, and within a game.

Sorry, but he wasn’t responsible for the mess of hitters Augie left behind. Additionally, baseball players don’t hit the field until well over a year after signing. It’s not like football and basketball. Furthermore, our offenses were just fine in his second year and last year. He’s only had one poor year thus far and it was a nightmare scenario.

That is just not true. Most managers have a philosophy and stick to it. Pierce hasn’t made up his mind on what he wants to be. His teams will struggle and he will go to small ball for a while and his players won’t be able to execute. And it’s not that he goes to it I’m certain situations, he will use it every time a runner is on for like 6 games or so and then it will disappear for long stretches of the season l, then he will randomly use it situationally. Also, he has pretty much abandoned the hit and run, which we were told was his style of play. We were told we would see more consistent hitters under Pierce. That hasn’t happened. We haven’t seen great defense, he hasn’t ever been able to develop a bullpen, he usually struggles to develop three consistent starters (something UT never used to have a problem with) and his offense has not been what we were told it was.

 

[THOP1]

This is a game we can learn from. Step on their damn throat when you have them down. Stay focused and get the sweep. Gave this game away. Stevens needed to leave a bit earlier. If you are going to bunt, you must execute as you are normally giving away an out.

On the positive-side: Let's see if we learn from this game. We played a great series other than a few innings in this last game. Really just a few at bats and a few coaching decisions and we sweep. On to the next. Hook'em.

Every team in the history of sports can say this. I doubt they learn from it. If they could have won they would have. It was BYU not Rice 2003.

 

[Ketchum]

Every team in the history of sports can say this. I doubt they learn from it. If they could have won they would have. It was BYU not Rice 2003.

To be fair, it's the 7th game of the season.

 

[DustinMcComas]

Just say simple out. We lost.

It was 108 MPH off the bat. So excuse me while I describe that as it should be. Thanks.

 

[DustinMcComas]

@DustinMcComas - appreciate the excellent coverage during the four game series - good work.

Thanks for reading.

 

[Schloss2Texas]

That is just not true. Most managers have a philosophy and stick to it. Pierce hasn’t made up his mind on what he wants to be. His teams will struggle and he will go to small ball for a while and his players won’t be able to execute. And it’s not that he goes to it I’m certain situations, he will use it every time a runner is on for like 6 games or so and then it will disappear for long stretches of the season l, then he will randomly use it situationally. Also, he has pretty much abandoned the hit and run, which we were told was his style of play. We were told we would see more consistent hitters under Pierce. That hasn’t happened. We haven’t seen great defense, he hasn’t ever been able to develop a bullpen, he usually struggles to develop three consistent starters (something UT never used to have a problem with) and his offense has not been what we were told it was.

There were several hit and runs put on this weekend. And no, managers typically use all offensive types. Baseball is not like football or basketball regarding offensive philosophies. It’s much more situational dependent.

 

[Htown2utSAhorn13]

There were several hit and runs put on this weekend. And no, managers typically use all offensive types. Baseball is not like football or basketball regarding offensive philosophies. It’s much more situational dependent.

Managers do not use all. Most managers have a philosophy. You won’t see SEC teams bunt very often. They are built on power and pitching. My point is not that Pierce doesn’t use these different types of approaches, it’s that he has no rhyme or reason to them, goes away from an approach when it’s working or applies an approach when he doesn’t have to. He has never had one consistent approach. Most managers have a philosophy. They are going to play small ball or they are going to hit and run or they are going to let their players hit. Pierce doesn’t have any of those. He doesn’t recruit to one philosophy either which is why his players are all over the map in skill level. None of his players can ever seem to get a bunt down, so it appears he isn’t even coaching situational baseball.

 

[Schloss2Texas]

Managers do not use all. Most managers have a philosophy. You won’t see SEC teams bunt very often. They are built on power and pitching. My point is not that Pierce doesn’t use these different types of approaches, it’s that he has no rhyme or reason to them, goes away from an approach when it’s working or applies an approach when he doesn’t have to. He has never had one consistent approach. Most managers have a philosophy. They are going to play small ball or they are going to hit and run or they are going to let their players hit. Pierce doesn’t have any of those. He doesn’t recruit to one philosophy either which is why his players are all over the map in skill level. None of his players can ever seem to get a bunt down, so it appears he isn’t even coaching situational baseball.

Yes they do. They all use them. It’s situationally dependent. I’ve watched every sec team use the strategy dependent on the pitcher they are facing and the success they are having on offense.
Can you explain how the recruits offensive skills are all over the map and how that differs at other schools? You don’t build one dimensional offenses. You build multi dimensional so that you can handle a variety of pitchers and situations and set yourself up for a higher win probability.

 

[DustinMcComas]

There were several hit and runs put on this weekend. And no, managers typically use all offensive types. Baseball is not like football or basketball regarding offensive philosophies. It’s much more situational dependent.

UT's offensive philosophy is run-scoring in multiple ways. I think ideally, Pierce wouldn't bunt much and would prefer more hit-and-run and swinging away.

 

[DustinMcComas]

Managers do not use all. Most managers have a philosophy. You won’t see SEC teams bunt very often. They are built on power and pitching. My point is not that Pierce doesn’t use these different types of approaches, it’s that he has no rhyme or reason to them, goes away from an approach when it’s working or applies an approach when he doesn’t have to. He has never had one consistent approach. Most managers have a philosophy. They are going to play small ball or they are going to hit and run or they are going to let their players hit. Pierce doesn’t have any of those. He doesn’t recruit to one philosophy either which is why his players are all over the map in skill level. None of his players can ever seem to get a bunt down, so it appears he isn’t even coaching situational baseball.

nobody recruits to a philosophy. It's not like a coach sees a good hitter and won't recruit him because he doesn't hit-and-run or bunt and coaches don't recruit guys because of how they bunt. They recruit guys they think can hit.

Literally earlier in the BYU series multiple players got bunts down and it totally wrecked BYU.

 

[Htown2utSAhorn13]

nobody recruits to a philosophy. It's not like a coach sees a good hitter and won't recruit him because he doesn't hit-and-run or bunt and coaches don't recruit guys because of how they bunt. They recruit guys they think can hit.

Literally earlier in the BYU series multiple players got bunts down and it totally wrecked BYU.

They either recruit power hitters or they recruit speed or they recruit guys they will play great defense. Pierce is all over the map. He has no true philosophy. Augie emphasized pitching and defense. Pierce was supposed to emphasize hitting. So we knew pitching would probably take a bit of a hit and better hitters would be played over guys who can defend and have cannon arms. However all three aspects are about on the same level. He doesn’t have one Great skill set on the team. He usually has 1 exceptional weekend starter, 1, maybe 2 great bullpen arms, 1 power hitter, 1 OBP guy and maybe one defensive IF. He’s doesn’t have one consistently great skill set on his team. He doesn’t have one philosophy he can fall back on. He isn’t a UT level coach. I hope I’m wrong but it appears Pierce, just like Shaka, came to UT and went away from the philosophy that got him there and created teams with no identity.

 

[DustinMcComas]

They either recruit power hitters or they recruit speed or they recruit guys they will play great defense. Pierce is all over the map. He has no true philosophy. Augie emphasized pitching and defense. Pierce was supposed to emphasize hitting. So we knew pitching would probably take a bit of a hit and better hitters would be played over guys who can defend and have cannon arms. However all three aspects are about on the same level. He doesn’t have one Great skill set on the team. He usually has 1 exceptional weekend starter, 1, maybe 2 great bullpen arms, 1 power hitter, 1 OBP guy and maybe one defensive IF. He’s doesn’t have one consistently great skill set on his team. He doesn’t have one philosophy he can fall back on. He isn’t a UT level coach. I hope I’m wrong but it appears Pierce, just like Shaka, came to UT and went away from the philosophy that got him there and created teams with no identity.

this is quite a stretch and, quite frankly, isn't accurate. They try to recruit the best players and like to recruit athleticism. You're trying to search for something to be negative about when it's not the reality. And you're also ignoring 11.7 scholarships. Look, you can be upset and Pierce and don't think he's the guy and all that. That's fine. Your opinion. But this idea there's some issue with recruiting philosophy is simply misguided. No team recruits only power hitters or only speed guys or only on-base guys or only batting average guys or only pitching. Now, could they have chosen or recruited players that ended up being better? Sure, but that's often the case for any program in the country if you're going to live in hindsight.

 

[Htown2utSAhorn13]

this is quite a stretch and, quite frankly, isn't accurate. They try to recruit the best players and like to recruit athleticism. You're trying to search for something to be negative about when it's not the reality. And you're also ignoring 11.7 scholarships. Look, you can be upset and Pierce and don't think he's the guy and all that. That's fine. Your opinion. But this idea there's some issue with recruiting philosophy is simply misguided. No team recruits only power hitters or only speed guys or only on-base guys or only batting average guys or only pitching. Now, could they have chosen or recruited players that ended up being better? Sure, but that's often the case for any program in the country if you're going to live in hindsight.

Augie used those 11.7 scholarships to target great pitchers and speed/athleticism. Seems to me Pierce doesn’t really target anything consistently. He may go after the best players but he only lands 1 or 2 in each skill set. His teams don’t have an identity. Maybe he brings in talented players but they aren’t developing. So either his recruiting isn’t good or he isn’t a good developer. Augie had a clear identity when he was here. Pierce does not.

 

[Schloss2Texas]

UT's offensive philosophy is run-scoring in multiple ways. I think ideally, Pierce wouldn't bunt much and would prefer more hit-and-run and swinging away.

Agreed. I think that is or should be every manager’s philosophy. I’ve been trying to make that point but maybe I’m not doing a good enough job, lol.

 

[Schloss2Texas]

They either recruit power hitters or they recruit speed or they recruit guys they will play great defense. Pierce is all over the map. He has no true philosophy. Augie emphasized pitching and defense. Pierce was supposed to emphasize hitting. So we knew pitching would probably take a bit of a hit and better hitters would be played over guys who can defend and have cannon arms. However all three aspects are about on the same level. He doesn’t have one Great skill set on the team. He usually has 1 exceptional weekend starter, 1, maybe 2 great bullpen arms, 1 power hitter, 1 OBP guy and maybe one defensive IF. He’s doesn’t have one consistently great skill set on his team. He doesn’t have one philosophy he can fall back on. He isn’t a UT level coach. I hope I’m wrong but it appears Pierce, just like Shaka, came to UT and went away from the philosophy that got him there and created teams with no identity.

It appears you don’t pay much attention to UT baseball. There is a ton wrong in this post and it’s like you are trying to force something on Pierce that doesn’t exist.

 

[Schloss2Texas]

this is quite a stretch and, quite frankly, isn't accurate. They try to recruit the best players and like to recruit athleticism. You're trying to search for something to be negative about when it's not the reality. And you're also ignoring 11.7 scholarships. Look, you can be upset and Pierce and don't think he's the guy and all that. That's fine. Your opinion. But this idea there's some issue with recruiting philosophy is simply misguided. No team recruits only power hitters or only speed guys or only on-base guys or only batting average guys or only pitching. Now, could they have chosen or recruited players that ended up being better? Sure, but that's often the case for any program in the country if you're going to live in hindsight.

THIS!!!