Baylor May get death penalty

[Belldozer1]

Disgusting on and off the field......

Baylor University football players 'committed 52 rapes in four-year period', federal lawsuit claims

• Identified only as Elizabeth Doe in the lawsuit, a former student filed a lawsuit against Baylor University for Title IX violations and negligence
• She said she was raped in 2013 by two former football players after a party
• According to the lawsuit, campus officials didn't investigate her case until 2015
• Lawsuit also claims her rape was just one of 52 that occurred at Baylor between 2011 and 2014; the numbers are much higher than those cited by school officials
• Audit found 17 reports of rapes involving 19 players between 2012 and 2015
• Coaches 'used sex to sell the program' to high school recruits, the lawsuit states
• The lawsuit alleges football program operated under a 'show'em a good time' policy, and recruits were also taken to strip clubs and offered alcohol and drugs

By Dailymail.com Reporter

Published: 21:52 EST, 27 January 2017 | Updated: 21:55 EST, 27 January 2017

A former student has filed a federal lawsuit against Baylor University, claiming her alleged rape was just one of 52 that occurred at the hands of the school's football players between 2011 and 2014.



Identified only as Elizabeth Doe in the lawsuit, the woman accused Baylor's former football players Tre'Von Armstead and Shamycheal Chatman of brutally gang raping her, court documents state.

But Doe claims her rape was not an isolated incident, and the lawsuit states a culture of sexual violence was created and maintained by a number of school policies.

The lawsuit claims that in four years, Doe was 'aware of at least 52 acts of rape by not less than 31 different football players' - numbers that are significantly higher than those previously cited by Baylor officials.

The school contracted Philadelphia law firm Pepper Hamilton to conduct an internal audit, which found 17 women reported rapes committed by 19 players between 2012 and 2015.

Under the coach Art Briles, Baylor's football team won an unprecedented 42 games between 2011 and 2014, and the athletes were 'hyped as celebrities on campus', the lawsuit claims

Doe accused Tre'Von Armstead (left) and Shamycheal Chatman (right) of brutally gang raping her in 2013. But she said that was just one of 52 incidents of rape in four years

The lawsuit, which accuses Baylor of Title IX violations and negligence, claims the school's culture of sexual assault and violence was in part fostered through the recruiting process, which 'used sex to sell the program', court documents stated.

Women in the hostess program, referred to as the Baylor Bruins, were supposed to escort recruits to events on their official visits to the school.

But the Bruins were 'at times used to engage in sexual acts with the recruits to help secure the recruits' commitment to Baylor', the lawsuit claims.

'On one such occasion, a Baylor football player stated that Baylor coaches sent two women from the Baylor Bruins program to his hotel room and the room of another recruit to engage in sex with the two men,' the lawsuit states.

Brile's son, the former assistant coach Kendall Briles, allegedly told a high school recruit: 'Do you like white women? Because we have a lot of them at Baylor and they LOVE football players.'

The football program operated under a 'show'em a good time' policy, and the recruits were also taken to strip clubs and offered alcohol and drugs, according to the court documents.

The lawsuit claims the recruiting process 'used sex to sell the program'.

Doe, who chose to attend Baylor in 2010 due to its 'strong emphasis on developing Christian faith', included details of her alleged rape on April 18, 2013, in the lawsuit.

She attended a party hosted by former defensive end Shawn Oakman, who has since been charged with sexual assault in an unrelated incident.

Doe was intoxicated and returned home with both Armstead and Chatman, the lawsuit states.

Her roommate's boyfriend heard 'what sounded like wrestling and a fist hitting someone' followed by a loud bang, a slapping noise, and a woman's voice saying 'no', the lawsuit states.

The boyfriend shouted through the closed door to check if Doe was okay, and insisted on seeing her emerge from the bedroom despite a response that she was 'fine', according to the lawsuit.


When the door opened, the roommate's boyfriend saw Doe partially unclothed on the floor, said 'she is not fine', and told Armstead and Chatman he was calling 911, the lawsuit states.

Before police arrived, Chatman enlisted the help of a Bruin, who arrived at Doe's home and encouraged her to tell police she had 'consensual sex with one white male', the lawsuit alleges.

The attack was reported to Waco police but no charges were filed and the players were allowed to stay on the team at the time.

According to the lawsuit, campus officials didn't investigate her case until 2015. One of the players involved was suspended from the team and later expelled. The other had transferred.

Baylor (above), the largest Baptist university in the country, faces at least five lawsuits from women who allege they were attacked and that the school failed to protect them or ignored their complaints" class
Baylor (above), the largest Baptist university in the country, faces at least five lawsuits from women who allege they were attacked and that the school failed to protect them or ignored their complaints

Baylor officials declined comment. The school faces at least five lawsuits from women who allege they were attacked and that the school failed to protect them or ignored their complaints.

The nation's largest Baptist university has been gripped by the on-going scandal that led to the firing of football coach Art Briles and the departure of school President Ken Starr in 2016.

An internal investigation last year found that the football program operated as if it was 'above the rules' and that assistant coaches and staff interfered or stifled investigations into alleged assaults by players.

Baylor allowed Briles' staff of assistants to remain for the 2016 season but new coach Matt Rhule hasn't retained them.

Some have moved to new jobs, including Briles' son and former offensive coordinator, Kendal Briles to Florida Atlantic, and defensive coordinator Phil Bennett to Arizona State.

Art Briles' attorney Ernest Cannon denied the program culture described in the lawsuit.

'If they were doing that it would be terrible, but they weren't doing that. Art wasn't involved in anything like that,' Cannon said. 'Lawyers have great imaginations when money is involved. It's really sad.'



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[ASURAM2010]

I wonder if the Baylor admin at least told Matt Rhule what he could expect when he showed up? If not, and it comes down that they get some sort of reprimand, then I think Rhule should be able to collect his entire contract value and go some where else.

 

[Longyac]

I wonder if the Baylor admin at least told Matt Rhule what he could expect when he showed up? If not, and it comes down that they get some sort of reprimand, then I think Rhule should be able to collect his entire contract value and go some where else.

Heck no. That's on Rhule for going there under the known circumstances. Rhule is the dumb@$$.

 

[ekal48]

Time to send a message.

Bury their ass for good.

 

[Bwilk55]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/337738007/

The original document. Not too much new other than the particular details of this incident. A lot of this document comes from the limited statement released after the Pepper report.

 

[OldHornInPA]

Wow... they deserve they really do deserve the death penalty. I believe these type of transgressions transcend the typical recruiting scandals of payoffs and bribes. Allowing serious harm to others to promote their money making sports program is horrible. Ranks up there with Penn State covering up the Sandusky pedophilia scandal.

 

[Godz40Acrez]

Wow... they deserve they really do deserve the death penalty. I believe these type of transgressions transcend the typical recruiting scandals of payoffs and bribes. Allowing serious harm to others to promote their money making sports program is horrible. Ranks up there with Penn State covering up the Sandusky pedophilia scandal.

Tru-dat.

 

[Bwilk55]

Wow... they deserve they really do deserve the death penalty. I believe these type of transgressions transcend the typical recruiting scandals of payoffs and bribes. Allowing serious harm to others to promote their money making sports program is horrible. Ranks up there with Penn State covering up the Sandusky pedophilia scandal.

A lot of this isn't new, nor is it unique to Baylor. Plenty of programs use pretty girls as escorts and I'm sure parties, strippers and sex occurs as well (to be clear, I do not endorse this and thinks it wrong). The major issue with Baylor is that the program was aware that these parties were unsafe for women and sex was not always consensual. Despite this information they kept sexual predators on campus (at best, helped them transfer to other campuses) , continued endorsing this type of behavior, did not properly discipline players (either internally or through official means). This lead to multiple sexual assaults being carried out by the same players. This is exactly what occurred to the young women filing this current lawsuit.

 

[speedstrength]

http://www.ncaapublications.com/p-4...ual-august-version-available-august-2016.aspx

Here is the Division 1 manual. Let me know what rule they broke. Same situation as Penn State in that these are matters best adjudicated in federal court. The NCAA overstepped and would have lost badly in court had Penn State choose to fight it. After about a year once the board changed they were going to start challenging some of the NCAA sanctions and of course the NCAA backed off. Based on the way Baylor has handled things so far I am sure that they will fight any sanctions that that are not directly related to an NCAA rule violation.

 

[diadevic]

This is rich - Belldozer calling for the death penalty at BU on a Longhorn Board while defending Stoops and his handling of, what are we up to - six instances of domestic violence under his watch? There's a stench in Waco right now - part of it from the University, and now part of it from unsubstantiated claims from a trial attorney. The incidences the trial lawyer alleges are disgusting, as are his unsubstantiated allegations of incidences that were not witnessed by him or his client. If he can prove that there were 52 rapes in 4 years by football players, I'll return my degree until every single member of the BOR and the Administration are gone. Until that time, I'll remain very skeptical (beginning with the allegation of 17 rapes in the PH report - it was actually 17 allegations of domestic violence, and there is a difference). FWIW - I am already withholding my meager contributions to BU until all BOR are gone because of what has previously been proven.

 

[Bwilk55]

http://www.ncaapublications.com/p-4...ual-august-version-available-august-2016.aspx

Here is the Division 1 manual. Let me know what rule they broke. Same situation as Penn State in that these are matters best adjudicated in federal court. The NCAA overstepped and would have lost badly in court had Penn State choose to fight it. After about a year once the board changed they were going to start challenging some of the NCAA sanctions and of course the NCAA backed off. Based on the way Baylor has handled things so far I am sure that they will fight any sanctions that that are not directly related to an NCAA rule violation.

According to the lawsuit, they are using Title IX violations and negligence/gross negligence. The NCAA bylaws do mention gender discrimination and a case could be made for that here.

 

[speedstrength]

According to the lawsuit, they are using Title IX violations and negligence/gross negligence. The NCAA bylaws do mention gender discrimination and a case could be made for that here.

Did you read the manual or are you just making stuff up. Download the pdf of the manual. Hit Ctrl F at the same time. Type in the word gender. Gender appears 39 times in 414 pages. None of what is in there relates to this situation. There is a possibility there were some recruiting violations but that isn't death penalty stuff.

 

[Godz40Acrez]

If the Bailor Bares DO get the "Death Penalty," can we exterminate them from the Beg12? Please?

 

[soonerdave]

This is rich - Belldozer calling for the death penalty at BU on a Longhorn Board while defending Stoops and his handling of, what are we up to - six instances of domestic violence under his watch? There's a stench in Waco right now - part of it from the University, and now part of it from unsubstantiated claims from a trial attorney. The incidences the trial lawyer alleges are disgusting, as are his unsubstantiated allegations of incidences that were not witnessed by him or his client. If he can prove that there were 52 rapes in 4 years by football players, I'll return my degree until every single member of the BOR and the Administration are gone. Until that time, I'll remain very skeptical (beginning with the allegation of 17 rapes in the PH report - it was actually 17 allegations of domestic violence, and there is a difference). FWIW - I am already withholding my meager contributions to BU until all BOR are gone because of what has previously been proven.

How exactly do you return a degree? And if, instead, you meant diploma, what purpose does that serve, besides giving them something to shred?

 

[diadevic]

How exactly do you return a degree? And if, instead, you meant diploma, what purpose does that serve, besides giving them something to shred?

Give me a better way to protest and I will consider it.

 

[soonerdave]

Give me a better way to protest and I will consider it.

Money, which you're already doing. Merchandise and ticket purchases. Petition with alumni signatures to show, collectively, the money they are losing out on. Have the petition also note that until they drain their swamp, you will all do what you can to dissuade potential students from attending.

 

[speedstrength]

Give me a better way to protest and I will consider it.

It's becoming theater of the absurd at Baylor. It seems like they are just sticking their fingers in their ears saying "na, na, na, na, I can't hear you". I don't think the powers that be fully appreciate the issues they are facing and at this point all they can really do is try to settle all lawsuits for as little as possible without admitting guilt and make everyone involved file non disclosure agreements. If they do this they could also run into people (Art Briles) who would then turn around and say see nothing was going on. When all is said and done this will be a case study in how not to handle a scandal

 

[diadevic]

Money, which you're already doing. Merchandise and ticket purchases. Petition with alumni signatures to show, collectively, the money they are losing out on. Have the petition also note that until they drain their swamp, you will all do what you can to dissuade potential students from attending.

There is one report circulating that says this will ultimately cost $200 million plus, between settlements, litigation costs, lost donations, drop off in student enrollment, etc. I don't care how big the endowment is, that is a difficult amount to come up with. And I, for one, work WAY to hard for my money to have it go to pay for the sins of gross mismanagement.

 

[Bwilk55]

Did you read the manual or are you just making stuff up. Download the pdf of the manual. Hit Ctrl F at the same time. Type in the word gender. Gender appears 39 times in 414 pages. None of what is in there relates to this situation. There is a possibility there were some recruiting violations but that isn't death penalty stuff.

First off, I never claimed that they clearly violated anything in the manual, just that a case could be made. If you could prove that a culture was created and purposefully maintained that allowed for sexual mistreatment of women for the benefit of a group of young men, then, as I said, a case could be made for gender discrimination. I.e treating women as objects and men as heroes who are above discipline.

Secondly, as I stated, if you read the lawsuit, you will see that two of the charges are related to gender discrimination under title IX.

Here is the statement from the NCAA manual:
2.3 The Principle of Gender Equity. [*] 2.3.1 Compliance With Federal and State Legislation. [*] It is the responsibility of each member institution to comply with federal and state laws regarding gender equity. (Adopted: 1/11/94)

 

[ekal48]

If the Bailor Bares DO get the "Death Penalty," can we exterminate them from the Beg12? Please?

We need to exterminate them regardless.

 

[Longyac]

Now you understand why some of are so against the Casey Horny hire and how it could splash back on us later?

If these allegations are true do you really think Casey Horny, Director of Football Operations, didn't know any of this?

The Tom Herman hire has taken a huge hit due to his hiring of Casey Horny.

 

[oldhorn2]

In all fairness.....Bell and I have had our differences and more than a few of them. However....to say he was condoning the bad behaviour at OU is a bit of a stretch. At least in the case of Mixon. He said several times that Mixon should have been sent packing.

As far as the other criminals at OU I cannot vouch for him...but in that one case, he was not for keeping mixon.

In the end however, he cannot over come the fact that OU sucks.

 

[speedstrength]

First off, I never claimed that they clearly violated anything in the manual, just that a case could be made. If you could prove that a culture was created and purposefully maintained that allowed for sexual mistreatment of women for the benefit of a group of young men, then, as I said, a case could be made for gender discrimination. I.e treating women as objects and men as heroes who are above discipline.

Secondly, as I stated, if you read the lawsuit, you will see that two of the charges are related to gender discrimination under title IX.

Here is the statement from the NCAA manual:
2.3 The Principle of Gender Equity. [*] 2.3.1 Compliance With Federal and State Legislation. [*] It is the responsibility of each member institution to comply with federal and state laws regarding gender equity. (Adopted: 1/11/94)

Big difference between gender equity and gender discrimination. Gender equity has to do with the allocation of resources. Gender discrimination is the unfair treatment of a person based on gender.
The Title IX cases don't have anything to do with the NCAA in this instance. This is going to be The US Dept of Ed and the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools sanctioning Baylor. There may be some NCAA violations but so far nothing has risen to anything that would warrant the death penalty.

 

[Belldozer1]

This is rich - Belldozer calling for the death penalty at BU on a Longhorn Board while defending Stoops and his handling of, what are we up to - six instances of domestic violence under his watch? There's a stench in Waco right now - part of it from the University, and now part of it from unsubstantiated claims from a trial attorney. The incidences the trial lawyer alleges are disgusting, as are his unsubstantiated allegations of incidences that were not witnessed by him or his client. If he can prove that there were 52 rapes in 4 years by football players, I'll return my degree until every single member of the BOR and the Administration are gone. Until that time, I'll remain very skeptical (beginning with the allegation of 17 rapes in the PH report - it was actually 17 allegations of domestic violence, and there is a difference). FWIW - I am already withholding my meager contributions to BU until all BOR are gone because of what has previously been proven.

No, not calling for the death penalty, I said Baylor MAY get the death penalty but that is contingent on the allegations in the article being true. But you've got to admit that between Baylor and OU, right now, OU more closely resembles a Christian University than Baylor does. Part of that is due to Saint Stoops willingness to take on troubled kids but gives them a chance and they leave better than when they got on campus, whereas, on the other hand it sounds like Briles is buying kegs and handing out condoms and condoning the bad behavior.

 

[Longyac]

Sooners selling themselves what Baylor got corrupted on. The only reason to keep Mixon was to win football games.

 

[Belldozer1]

Sooners selling themselves what Baylor got corrupted on. The only reason to keep Mixon was to win football games.

Like Saint Stoops said "Times were different then"

 

[Bass Elder]

As despicable as to what happened at Baylor.. I'm not all that convinced they hit the Penn State threshold.

If Penn State didn't get the Death Penalty, its beyond this boy what it would take to dust any football program.

f' both. However, fk Penn State about 57 shades of gray above the actions at Baylor.

 

[outhereincali]

There's no question about the wrongdoings at Baylor. But looking back I think the NCAA realizes now that imposing the death penalty on SMU was to harsh and they won't do it again.

I think the NCAA realizes now that declaring a fire sale on the Penn State fb team after the Paterno/Sandusky tragedy was to severe and they won't do it again.

It's not within their jurisdiction to press charges against Baylor for what happened there. And fwiw the interim President at Baylor is disputing at least some of the charges. They're also going to have to pay millions in settlement money to the victims.

 

[Bass Elder]

...

I think the NCAA realizes now that declaring a fire sale on the Penn State fb team after the Paterno/Sandusky tragedy was to severe and they won't do it again.

...

man, if your moral scale registers on the "i think what happened to Penn State was to severe"

Just out of curiosity, would you care to spend a few minutes set forth the parameters of your scale.

with the above stated, I gather you are from California -- just when I thought i had some remote clue as to Californians sense of decency, you just knocked it out of the park.

But what the hell, im from west Texas so our ethics probably do not measure up to Calif

 

[LonghornMM]

There's no question about the wrongdoings at Baylor. But looking back I think the NCAA realizes now that imposing the death penalty on SMU was to harsh and they won't do it again.

I think the NCAA realizes now that declaring a fire sale on the Penn State fb team after the Paterno/Sandusky tragedy was to severe and they won't do it again.

It's not within their jurisdiction to press charges against Baylor for what happened there. And fwiw the interim President at Baylor is disputing at least some of the charges. They're also going to have to pay millions in settlement money to the victims.

If anything, the NCAA went easy on Penn State. They should at the very least give Baylor the same punishment.