Baylor May get death penalty
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How many of your know that the NCAA recinded most of the penalties levied against Penn State? They would have also had their asses handed to them had they chose to fight the state law enacted to prevent the 60 million from leaving the state. The NCAA quickly agreed to follow the state law and allow Penn State to control who gets the money? They are slowly releasing the funds in the form of competitive grants and they are keeping 12 million for on campus programs.
I disagree with those that think the Penn State scandal and now the Baylor one should not have been treated the same way. Both schools were hiding atrocious behavior by the football team and/or their coaches. They were protecting the revenue generator for the athletic program -- the football cash cow. Fines by the NCAA as a punishment is a foolish idea especially if they are in the millions. Shutting the football program down completely for a year is quite appropriate though. Once guilt is ascertained, universities need to understand that covering up these serious criminal activities to protect a sports franchise won't be tolerated. If this isn't in the NCAA by-laws now then it should be.
There are lots of schools in trouble with the Department of Ed for Title IX infractions related to how they handle sexual assault on campus. That may change under the new Administration because they aren't releasing updates at this time. The biggest problem is that schools don't have mechanisms in place to deal with issues of sexual assault or they aren't following their own produces for adjudicating issues of sexual violence on campus. These issues really do fall outside the purview of the NCAA and are best handled by the criminal, civil, and federal courts.
You called me out for stating an opinion about something I never even mentioned but I go on rambling diatribes? Ok dude.
As I said in my post that replied to your nonsensical reply to mine. What happened at penn state was absolutely awful but was more for the legal system as well as civil litagstion, and state law makers to deal with more so than the NCAA at least in my opinion.
The actions at Baylor in terms of title Ix violations, bribing victims with scholarships, not following policy when it comes to reporting complaints. There maybe some legal standing there as well, but those are also things the NCAA is there to monitor and punish accordingly.
To me the penn state situation was so beyond what the NCAA was designed to handle you can't even compare the two.
That's because so far the only violations that have come out are some minor recruiting violations. Briles was sanctioned. Its like the fake class scandal at UNC. The fake classes were not an impressionable benefit because non student athletes were taking the class. The only team that was sanctioned was women's basketball because they had proof an academic advisor wrote papers for women's basketball players.
I disagree. If scholarships were given in exchange for silence and students were around to have sex with recruits as Is reported by some outlets. The NCAA would have some standing I would think.
Diadevic, you are starting to sound disenfranchised, much like FlourBluffHorn was a couple of weeks ago. I will make you the same offer made to FBHorn: I will allow you to piggyback on my team and enjoy that fresh Sugarbowl win until you can get your thoughts together but you have to make up your mind by the time spring ball rolls around or you automatically have to openly pull for the Sooners this year.
The sex for recruits certainly falls under NCAA jurisdiction, but how does Baylor giving scholarships for NDA fall under the NCAA umbrella? The NCAA doesn't control use of scholarships even if it was an athletic scholarship.
Interesting book review in Friday's Wall Street Journal on the evolving definition of "rape" and "sexual assault".
https://www.wsj.com/articles/witch-hunt-on-the-quad-1485477033
https://www.wsj.com/articles/witch-hunt-on-the-quad-1485477033
How is a clone of the Mixon deal? I thought the KU bball thing was a rape in an on campus dorm during a party that several KU players were at. Am I missing an update on that story?
Bell I am on record for saying many times that I pull for OU in every game they play each year but the RRS......but to openly root for em?. I would rather be deep fried at McDonalds.
I wasn't aware of those details. I will have to go back and reread the entire story. I thought this just happened and that they haven't made any decisions about punishments yet.
the incident happened in 2015
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/report...ly-committed-domestic-violence-020433947.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/report...ly-committed-domestic-violence-020433947.html
Didn't hear about that one. There is a new one that just came out about a rape occurring in a basketball player dorm.
yes...that new one is what got some focus on this "old" one. Anywy...it seemed eeriely like the Mixon one in that it happened a year or so ago and it was handled roughly the same way. Perhaps even worse in that this guy was never suspended as I thought, he was just "sparingly" used
Well if the NCAA can't do anything about scholarships for silence your gonna see a lot more of it.
UT has long used hotties to escort football recruits when visiting the campus (not sure if they still do). They called them "Bevo's Babes" when I was there from 79-85. I know of at least one football player that scored with the Babes.
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If you see a paid scholarship as a "bribe", then every single settlement of any lawsuit in the US is a bribe. I don't know if the NCAA has any jurisdiction in this case, but the fact that the school paid with a scholarship instead of cash really makes no difference.
A paid scholarship in exchange for not reporting a crime against you is absolutely a bribe. Not sure how it could be seen as anything else.
That's completely different than a scholarship given as part of a legal settlement.
IMHO both schools should have received the death penalty. It's too la in the Ped State case but not in the situation that is unfolding at Baylor.
You want to hear something bat s*** crazy about Baylor? As of now with less than 24 ours to go until signing day, Rivals has them ahead of us in recruiting, and second only to OK in the Big XII. That is subject to change of course. But hey, wth?
Could this mean that the worst has happened and there are no more sanctions to charge them with? Or is Matt Ruhle a lot better coach than Art Briles? I got to admit, I don't understand this.
Could this mean that the worst has happened and there are no more sanctions to charge them with? Or is Matt Ruhle a lot better coach than Art Briles? I got to admit, I don't understand this.
Its volume. OU has 27 commits, Baylor has 25, OK State 20, Texas 16. Baylor is going to have roster issues and they will be signing large classes for the next few years
We have a lot of talent on campus, so one class won't ruin the show. Texas will win big this year, and recruiting will pick back up. But this class isn't what I expected. I didn't expect Herman to takeover the state, but I thought he would have more juice than that.
I do understand the above replies to me. I just have a hard time believing considering the situation at Baylor that they did this good in recruiting. 3 things concern me:
1. Art Briles never finished ahead of Texas in recruiting. In fact he only had one top 20 class.
2. I wonder if they know something at Baylor that the rest of us don't know. I'm speaking of do they know that the storm has passed and no matter how many more stories come out nothing concrete is going to be done to them.
3. If #2 is correct what if it turns out that Matt Ruhle is a better coach than Art Briles?
Or they know something, that we all know...that a lot of people in this country have fake morals. They are all for grabbing p****.
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