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HornNation101

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I don't like being held Hostage. I do not understand the Stockholm Syndrome when being held Hostage, but a few of our fans are exhibiting it. I do not know why when the hostage takers are so wrong. From the Left we get the 1619 project that is filled with errors and untruths on the Founding of our Country to now our Fight Song being racist. Nowhere in history has there been a document like our Constitution. The founding fathers put in what is called "poison pills" into the framework to deal with slavery at a later time. Our Constitution is to be honored and looked upon as the single instrument that has granted and will grant individuals their freedom. The Bill of Rights outlines what the Government cannot do to it's citizens. Now, we have some people who are not happy with restricting government and want to re-write our own history with charges of racism and then hold us hostage if we do not agree. Well, I will not agree or adhere to their demands to take our rights away or our time honored traditions.

To me their demand on changing our Fight Song is just another demand on top of others that have been made and will be made in the future. Some of our fans on this board are saying, "oh we can never play the Eyes again because the blacks on the team think it's racist". That is unreal bs and caving in when there is no need to do so. I say play the Eyes of Texas even louder and louder throughout the game. I would shove it in their faces. If the crybaby protesting players are that angry, then why stay here? Leave our Texas and go play at San Angelo State. Texas will still recruit great players and one day will again be back on top, with a new coach who demands and gets respect from all and THE EYES OF TEXAS will still be our Fight Song.

If anything this contrived leftist controversy over our Fight Song has only made it more sacred. Yes the line in the sand has been drawn, not by the hostage takers but by the hostages, we will not succumbed to your Lies about the Eyes!!
 
I don't like being held Hostage. I do not understand the Stockholm Syndrome when being held Hostage, but a few of our fans are exhibiting it. I do not know why when the hostage takers are so wrong. From the Left we get the 1619 project that is filled with errors and untruths on the Founding of our Country to now our Fight Song being racist. Nowhere in history has there been a document like our Constitution. The founding fathers put in what is called "poison pills" into the framework to deal with slavery at a later time. Our Constitution is to be honored and looked upon as the single instrument that has granted and will grant individuals their freedom. The Bill of Rights outlines what the Government cannot do to it's citizens. Now, we have some people who are not happy with restricting government and want to re-write our own history with charges of racism and then hold us hostage if we do not agree. Well, I will not agree or adhere to their demands to take our rights away or our time honored traditions.

To me their demand on changing our Fight Song is just another demand on top of others that have been made and will be made in the future. Some of our fans on this board are saying, "oh we can never play the Eyes again because the blacks on the team think it's racist". That is unreal bs and caving in when there is no need to do so. I say play the Eyes of Texas even louder and louder throughout the game. I would shove it in their faces. If the crybaby protesting players are that angry, then why stay here? Leave our Texas and go play at San Angelo State. Texas will still recruit great players and one day will again be back on top, with a new coach who demands and gets respect from all and THE EYES OF TEXAS will still be our Fight Song.

If anything this contrived leftist controversy over our Fight Song has only made it more sacred. Yes the line in the sand has been drawn, not by the hostage takers but by the hostages, we will not succumbed to your Lies about the Eyes!!
Great post. What is happening with our beloved (for now) team is a microcosm of what is occurring in the US. That is precisely why the events at UT are so important and shouldn't be dismissed.
We are in a high tech civil war. Publishers and editors of information such as Twitter and Fakebook can censor posters and operate without liability under section 230. By actively censoring information as they have been, especially over the last week, they are no longer merely transmitters of others' content.
HornsNation, we have those that honor the founding principles of this country and those that don't know/care what the Constitution stands for. But, make no mistake, we are currently in a low intensity, high tech civil war. I will post what I believe the solution is at a later time.
 
here's what happens to the left-- they have a triggering action. they start doing things/ making demands in the name of the triggering event. they try to keep taking and taking in the name of the triggering event until the true meaning of the actions/ demands get lost on the majority. if yoi give them an inch, they try to take a mile. and they screw it up. thanks God, because if they stayed centrist, they would never lose an election; instead they alienate more and more potential voters trying to placate the very very fringe.
 
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In the 80's I am middle of the road, today I'm also a right wing nut job.

What makes a person a right wing nut job.

Flying a flag
Standing for the national anthem
Owning an AR15
Respecting others beliefs
Going to Church
Pro Life
Respecting the Constitution
Love our nations history
Love our founding fathers
Saying the Pledge of Allegiance
Believing men are men and women are women.
Believing in two genders
Believing in the family
Marriage between a man and a woman.

All of these things are radical far right thinking.
 
In the 80's I am middle of the road, today I'm also a right wing nut job.

What makes a person a right wing nut job.

Flying a flag
Standing for the national anthem
Owning an AR15
Respecting others beliefs
Going to Church
Pro Life
Respecting the Constitution
Love our nations history
Love our founding fathers
Saying the Pledge of Allegiance
Believing men are men and women are women.
Believing in two genders
Believing in the family
Marriage between a man and a woman.

All of these things are radical far right thinking.

You're a freaking maniac
 
In the 80's I am middle of the road, today I'm also a right wing nut job.

What makes a person a right wing nut job.

Flying a flag
Standing for the national anthem
Owning an AR15
Respecting others beliefs
Going to Church
Pro Life
Respecting the Constitution
Love our nations history
Love our founding fathers
Saying the Pledge of Allegiance
Believing men are men and women are women.
Believing in two genders
Believing in the family
Marriage between a man and a woman.

All of these things are radical far right thinking.

Owning an AR15? I guess so. In your case and since you are a RWDTF I can see why you think that but most people don't want anything to do with an assault rifle.

Respecting other people's belief's that's really rich coming from you. You insult everyone that doesn't agree with you. You only respect other opinions that agree with you. And I'll expect insults when you reply. Hell you insulted another R opinion for having a different opinion on that locked thread.

Respecting the constitution? DT doesn't respect the constitution at all. But since you're a RWDTF it's ok if he does it. And we liberals respect the Founding Fathers.

Most Americans including liberals love the things you listed. But were the Americans you hate and refuse to accept.

Im liberal and as a LDS I believe in m/w marriage and children I've got 7 kids. And a lot of liberals believe in those things But I accept other people that are different.

In regards to what clob94 said above. He said Ronald Reagan conservatism in the 80's would be considered right wing nut jobs today. Not true at all not even close. These RWDTF have hijacked the RP and have turned it into a twisted distorted view of America.

Don't believe it? Check out the channel RVAT. Lifelong conservative R's some in their 80's have talked about how DT betrayed their party. Even evangelical Christians a traditional solid R voting block are turning away from. And to top it off they're all going to vote for Biden. They didn't betray the RP people like you took it away from them.

But what goes around comes around. By all accounts Biden has a double digit lead the D's are going gain the majority in the Senate. People are turning out in record droves and there is evidence they're voting blue. That ahole GA tried to limit it to one drop box per county but the TX supremes said no. And states that have always voted red are going to vote blue. And lots of R senate seats are up for grabs including Cornyn.

No we liberals are not socialists we are center left. If we were socialist Bernie Sanders would be our candidate and most of us ignore him.

So in conclusion we are the America you hate and judging by what you've posted in the past you think we should be killed because we disagree with people like you we don't wish violence on your kind.

You RWDTF you are the ones that hate America.
 
I voted today and so did a lot of other conservatives. The early voting is not just Dems. To base a conclusion on increase early voting is a huge mistake. I just wanted to get it over with in order to celebrate Trump's Electoral College Victory in style with whiskey and steak.
 
I voted today and so did a lot of other conservatives. The early voting is not just Dems. To base a conclusion on increase early voting is a huge mistake. I just wanted to get it over with in order to celebrate Trump's Electoral College Victory in style with whiskey and steak.
From your post it appears you have already been in the whiskey
 
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Owning an AR15? I guess so. In your case and since you are a RWDTF I can see why you think that but most people don't want anything to do with an assault rifle.

Respecting other people's belief's that's really rich coming from you. You insult everyone that doesn't agree with you. You only respect other opinions that agree with you. And I'll expect insults when you reply. Hell you insulted another R opinion for having a different opinion on that locked thread.

Respecting the constitution? DT doesn't respect the constitution at all. But since you're a RWDTF it's ok if he does it. And we liberals respect the Founding Fathers.

Most Americans including liberals love the things you listed. But were the Americans you hate and refuse to accept.

Im liberal and as a LDS I believe in m/w marriage and children I've got 7 kids. And a lot of liberals believe in those things But I accept other people that are different.

In regards to what clob94 said above. He said Ronald Reagan conservatism in the 80's would be considered right wing nut jobs today. Not true at all not even close. These RWDTF have hijacked the RP and have turned it into a twisted distorted view of America.

Don't believe it? Check out the channel RVAT. Lifelong conservative R's some in their 80's have talked about how DT betrayed their party. Even evangelical Christians a traditional solid R voting block are turning away from. And to top it off they're all going to vote for Biden. They didn't betray the RP people like you took it away from them.

But what goes around comes around. By all accounts Biden has a double digit lead the D's are going gain the majority in the Senate. People are turning out in record droves and there is evidence they're voting blue. That ahole GA tried to limit it to one drop box per county but the TX supremes said no. And states that have always voted red are going to vote blue. And lots of R senate seats are up for grabs including Cornyn.

No we liberals are not socialists we are center left. If we were socialist Bernie Sanders would be our candidate and most of us ignore him.

So in conclusion we are the America you hate and judging by what you've posted in the past you think we should be killed because we disagree with people like you we don't wish violence on your kind.

You RWDTF you are the ones that hate America.
So, do you actually support Biden or are you still a never Trumper? Serious question. I'm curious how many Dems look at Biden as legit or are they seeing the radicals on the left just hoping to take over if Biden were to steal the election.
 
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Owning an AR15? I guess so. In your case and since you are a RWDTF I can see why you think that but most people don't want anything to do with an assault rifle.

Respecting other people's belief's that's really rich coming from you. You insult everyone that doesn't agree with you. You only respect other opinions that agree with you. And I'll expect insults when you reply. Hell you insulted another R opinion for having a different opinion on that locked thread.

Respecting the constitution? DT doesn't respect the constitution at all. But since you're a RWDTF it's ok if he does it. And we liberals respect the Founding Fathers.

Most Americans including liberals love the things you listed. But were the Americans you hate and refuse to accept.

Im liberal and as a LDS I believe in m/w marriage and children I've got 7 kids. And a lot of liberals believe in those things But I accept other people that are different.

In regards to what clob94 said above. He said Ronald Reagan conservatism in the 80's would be considered right wing nut jobs today. Not true at all not even close. These RWDTF have hijacked the RP and have turned it into a twisted distorted view of America.

Don't believe it? Check out the channel RVAT. Lifelong conservative R's some in their 80's have talked about how DT betrayed their party. Even evangelical Christians a traditional solid R voting block are turning away from. And to top it off they're all going to vote for Biden. They didn't betray the RP people like you took it away from them.

But what goes around comes around. By all accounts Biden has a double digit lead the D's are going gain the majority in the Senate. People are turning out in record droves and there is evidence they're voting blue. That ahole GA tried to limit it to one drop box per county but the TX supremes said no. And states that have always voted red are going to vote blue. And lots of R senate seats are up for grabs including Cornyn.

No we liberals are not socialists we are center left. If we were socialist Bernie Sanders would be our candidate and most of us ignore him.

So in conclusion we are the America you hate and judging by what you've posted in the past you think we should be killed because we disagree with people like you we don't wish violence on your kind.

You RWDTF you are the ones that hate America.
Reagan democrat-- just to be accurate.
 
Owning an AR15? I guess so. In your case and since you are a RWDTF I can see why you think that but most people don't want anything to do with an assault rifle.

Respecting other people's belief's that's really rich coming from you. You insult everyone that doesn't agree with you. You only respect other opinions that agree with you. And I'll expect insults when you reply. Hell you insulted another R opinion for having a different opinion on that locked thread.

Respecting the constitution? DT doesn't respect the constitution at all. But since you're a RWDTF it's ok if he does it. And we liberals respect the Founding Fathers.

Most Americans including liberals love the things you listed. But were the Americans you hate and refuse to accept.

Im liberal and as a LDS I believe in m/w marriage and children I've got 7 kids. And a lot of liberals believe in those things But I accept other people that are different.

In regards to what clob94 said above. He said Ronald Reagan conservatism in the 80's would be considered right wing nut jobs today. Not true at all not even close. These RWDTF have hijacked the RP and have turned it into a twisted distorted view of America.

Don't believe it? Check out the channel RVAT. Lifelong conservative R's some in their 80's have talked about how DT betrayed their party. Even evangelical Christians a traditional solid R voting block are turning away from. And to top it off they're all going to vote for Biden. They didn't betray the RP people like you took it away from them.

But what goes around comes around. By all accounts Biden has a double digit lead the D's are going gain the majority in the Senate. People are turning out in record droves and there is evidence they're voting blue. That ahole GA tried to limit it to one drop box per county but the TX supremes said no. And states that have always voted red are going to vote blue. And lots of R senate seats are up for grabs including Cornyn.

No we liberals are not socialists we are center left. If we were socialist Bernie Sanders would be our candidate and most of us ignore him.

So in conclusion we are the America you hate and judging by what you've posted in the past you think we should be killed because we disagree with people like you we don't wish violence on your kind.

You RWDTF you are the ones that hate America.
As a “center left” person are you ok with violent protesting, looting, government funded abortion, limiting free speech and judicial activism? Just curious.
 
So, do you actually support Biden or are you still a never Trumper? Serious question. I'm curious how many Dems look at Biden as legit or are they seeing the radicals on the left just hoping to take over if Biden were to steal the election.

Yeah he is legit and a much better person will be a leader and will unify our country which DT has fractured. Radicals on the left? Ridiculous
 
I voted today and so did a lot of other conservatives. The early voting is not just Dems. To base a conclusion on increase early voting is a huge mistake. I just wanted to get it over with in order to celebrate Trump's Electoral College Victory in style with whiskey and steak.

That's right keep telling yourself that.
 
As a “center left” person are you ok with violent protesting, looting, government funded abortion, limiting free speech and judicial activism? Just curious.

I got news for you buddy. Over the last 10 years 119 people died from right wing violence. No less than the DHS and I think the FBI as well have said that right wing violence is the biggest threat to our internal security.

And who has limited free speech?

I myself am pro life but I understand that other people don't share my views.

Legislating from the bench? You're not paying attention. That's what DT and that sob McConnell have been trying to do with the sc since became potus. The R's are obsessed with gutting the ACA. Dyk they have tried ro gut it 72 times that's right 72. And leave it TX and. that judge buddy of Cornyn to bring it to the SC again. That AB confirmation was a sham. MM refused to provide a stimulus package packing the court is far more important specifically ending the ACA. Dyk that 21 mil people who didn't have health insurance before the ACA will lose it if the ACA. That 100 mil could be without it because of pre existing conditions? That's why DT appointed EG, BK, and wants AB on the SC asap before it becomes to the court on 11/10/20.. If she gets confirmed. The majority of Americans want the ACA to stay but DT and the R's don't care. With their 6/3 majority they are the ones who can and probably will legislate from the bench. And if you are ok with the ACA being ended with and what it will do shame on you.

As for abortion. I myself am pro life but as I said earlier I accept that other people don't share my views. Dyk that the majority of Americans don't want Roe v Wade overturned. And the number of abortions has steadily decreased.
 
The Democrats are not for the “status quo” with abortion “rights” but believe what you will. Read the DNC platform and check out what many prominent democratic leaders say. It is highly unlikely that the Supreme Court will overturn roe v wade even with ACB. That is pure scare tactics.

If the Democrats want to keep the ACA then they need to pass a constitutional version through the system.

Even you have to admit that conservative free speech is severely limited on almost all college campuses and is under attack in many places.
 
You were on a roll but I think a federal court granted GA's relief....

Ok I believe that it was a state district judge who suspended GA's order. But last week I believe the 5th circuit a 3 man panel that was appointed by DT overturned it. I have 2 brothers that are lawyers in Austin who follow the courts closely I'll ask them if there's been a change since last weeks overturned decision.

What MM and DT want to do is legislate from the bench. In their debate 3 weeks ago DT bragged about how he's appointed 200 judges since he's been potus which he said was more than Obama. What he didn't mention was that MM blocked all of Obama's appointments. That's exactly what they want to do. It isn't just the ACA and Roe v Wade. It's about the 2nd amendment its about voter suppression, gutting the voting rights act of 1964 eliminating background checks for people who wish to purchase firearms this is what this group of R's want. It's not hyperbole they've said as much themselves. If you support all of this shame on you because most of America doesn't want that but DT, MM, and the rest of the RP don't care.

In parting for people who say they are pro life. What about the families that are broken up at the border? What about the dreamers? If you are pro life how can you not be upset by this?
 
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