BIG 12 Predictions

[clob94]

Jim Harbaugh is recruiting on a foundation of sinking sand. You can see it with all the gimmicks and decommits. 3 in 2 days, one because they sent him a postcard thanking him for attending an event he wasn't at and spelling his name wrong. All the flashy things are nice and attract a lot of attention from kids but they are fleeting.

Bwilk55,
I'd have to respectfully disagree. In just one year back in college coaching, Harbaugh has managed to piss of every coach, player and fan in the SEC. That's no easy task. The fact that he got so far under their skin shows that they fear him a bit. They don't want him doing camps in their backyard because, well, he's a heckuva coach and can easily steal recruits from the south and take them to his blue blooded school. And let's not kid ourselves, not one single SEC school comes close to Michigan's academics. He's also managed to get the NCAA to side with him regarding those camps. That's no easy chore.

Right now, Harbaugh can do no wrong. All he needs to do is keep michigan winning double digit games and in the top 10 for a couple more years and they'll be crushing it.

 

[Bwilk55]

Bwilk55,
I'd have to respectfully disagree. In just one year back in college coaching, Harbaugh has managed to piss of every coach, player and fan in the SEC. That's no easy task. The fact that he got so far under their skin shows that they fear him a bit. They don't want him doing camps in their backyard because, well, he's a heckuva coach and can easily steal recruits from the south and take them to his blue blooded school. And let's not kid ourselves, not one single SEC school comes close to Michigan's academics. He's also managed to get the NCAA to side with him regarding those camps. That's no easy chore.

Right now, Harbaugh can do no wrong. All he needs to do is keep michigan winning double digit games and in the top 10 for a couple more years and they'll be crushing it.

I agree that he has taken the college game by storm and has created a lot of momentum for Michigan. It just all seems so gimmicky, think swagcopter. If he strings together 10 win seasons it will have some staying power. I'd take the Charlie Strong Core Values approach over the celebrity and flash Harbaugh approach anyday.

 

[outhereincali]

Bwilk55,
I'd have to respectfully disagree. In just one year back in college coaching, Harbaugh has managed to piss of every coach, player and fan in the SEC. That's no easy task. The fact that he got so far under their skin shows that they fear him a bit. They don't want him doing camps in their backyard because, well, he's a heckuva coach and can easily steal recruits from the south and take them to his blue blooded school. And let's not kid ourselves, not one single SEC school comes close to Michigan's academics. He's also managed to get the NCAA to side with him regarding those camps. That's no easy chore.

Right now, Harbaugh can do no wrong. All he needs to do is keep michigan winning double digit games and in the top 10 for a couple more years and they'll be crushing it.

Clob there's one thing about Jim Harbaugh that you need to know. He did this piss off the other coach when he was as Stanford especially in regards to Pete Carroll when PC was at Southern Cal. He turned it up a few more notches in the NFL. But PC got the last laugh so did Tom Coughlin, actually so has the rest of the NFL. In 2013 the 49er players started tuning him out, there was speculation that he would be gone within a year. The following year the players tuned him out completely and he left for MI. Look, the man is a gifted coach but his personality wears on people and after awhile you just don't like the guy.

 

[cml7374]

"It's worth noting that he's the only coach to ever win all the bcs games, and a championship"

It's also worth noting ou was below 500 in BCS Bowl games with the biggest loss EVER in a BCS championship game.......

 

[OULegacy76]

Would I like Ou to have a better record in bowls? Sure. But Oklahoma has won more big games than they have lost. Hopefully this year we add more wins to that list

 

[12375CAT]

J-Hawks go O-fer (again) in '16(LOL!)

 

[OULegacy76]

I don't think anyone is too concerned with Ku

 

[Scholz]

But Oklahoma has won more big games than they have lost.

Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true.

And Stoops only has 1 title where it counts. Say that doesn't bother you but we know it does.

 

[Heisennberg]

Heisennberg.....you are correct. Yall lost and it didn't matter......that's the same "Big game Bob" kinda thinking that gets that ass handed to them in "Big" games.....such as BCS Bowl games.....take a look at that BCS record because I'm sure after you do then that won't matter either. All those Big 12 championship rings and ou STILL has as many Championships as TEXAS does since 2000.....of course that doesn't matter.

Hey, winning bcs games isnt easy, I dont know how many coaches have a great record against the kind of top teams that play in bcs games. Yep, OU has a national championship and it was amazing to witness. So for some reason you seem to think I should be, i dont know, upset? I know lots of fans whose teams never won anything. I'm lucky that I've gotten to see my team experience so much success over the past 17 years.

"It's worth noting that he's the only coach to ever win all the bcs games, and a championship"

It's also worth noting ou was below 500 in BCS Bowl games with the biggest loss EVER in a BCS championship game.......

Lol, yep. Yet somehow I dont think that your stat will keep him out of the coaching hall of fame. In fact, it's his accomplishments that get him in. I'm very, very satisfied with him leading the OU program, he's done an amazing job. he's one of the most well liked and admired coaches as evidenced how on multiple occasions his peers voted him as the coach they'd most want their sons playing for. Plus he's never had, and never will have a losing season. That's pretty nice too. I'll take it!

 

[Scholz]

Yep, OU has a national championship and it was amazing to witness. So for some reason you seem to think I should be, i dont know, upset?

You're not fooling anyone. Of course you don't like that Stoops is tied with the Larry Cokers, Phil Fulmers, Mack Browns and Les Miles of the world the only place it really counts. The way you girls carry yourselves though, you'd think you win it all ever other year.

 

[Heisennberg]

You're not fooling anyone. Of course you don't like that Stoops is tied with the Larry Cokers, Phil Fulmers, Mack Browns and Les Miles of the world the only place it really counts. The way you girls carry yourselves though, you'd think you win it all ever other year.

yawn. your schtick gets old. Got any new material ?

 

[Scholz]

Do you? You're still giving us the same unbelievable BS. You know you'd love to tout multiple titles under $toops the way you do with $witzer and Wilkin$on. Your denials of this obvious reality don't fool anyone over here.

Bob Stoops is Lavell Edwards. Gene Chizik.

 

[LonghornSoldier]

Would I like Ou to have a better record in bowls? Sure. But Oklahoma has won more big games than they have lost. Hopefully this year we add more wins to that list

This has been covered - and no they havent won more than they lost when it comes to big games..... 4-5 in BCS bowls and NC games speaks volumes about lack of big game winning ability. How can you claim to win big games when you lose the biggest of the big frequently?

 

[LongfellowDrew]

Can't believe this is still being discussed with OU fans that are embarrassed of getting beat by UT and could careless about us. Most people that don't like something never frequent that place ever again but hey what ever floats your boat.

 

[Mister Moses]

Bob is just another coach in football. Under different circumstances he could have become a janitor or shoe shine boy. Speaking of bowl game success oh my,my let me tell you. All he can do is win 3 times as many big 12 titles as 3 coaches at UT in same time period. What's the current UT coaches bowl record at the biggest brand in college football? Cat had a legitimate question in his thread. None of you answered only belittled him. How many wins this year will satisfy you guys. Lay it on the line for us. Enquiring fans would like to know. What will keep you from doing a 180 on Charlie the way you did Mack? Scholz was the last Mack supporter to turn. Let's have his answer. Come on Sholz honest question. What will satisfy you?

 

[Scholz]

7 or 8 wins this year and a bowl win is what I expect. 2017 we're coming.

Back to Stoops, yes he's won conference titles (why don't you guys ever just lead with this? It's always where you end up). I agree he's a good regional conference coach. On the national stage in big games? Losing record.

 

[OULegacy76]

Soldier regardless of what you say, big games aren't just the ones that YOU consider big games. Common sense, other fans anywhere else, etc. all consider conference titles and top 10 wins big games. You just don't want to admit it because it doesn't help your argument. It's okay lol. I guess you didn't consider the OU/Texas games years ago big games even though at times we were both top ten and it was a huge conference game? Of course you did.

 

[cml7374]

"All he can do is win 3 times as many big 12 titles as 3 coaches at UT in same time period."

And still has the same amount of national Championships as TEXAS has in that same time period. Don't worry moses I'd be upset with "Big game bob" winning just one also....and laying the biggest egg against USC in the history of championship games.

Guess you could say ou has done less with more than any other program in the BCS era....all those Big XII Championships with ONE National Championship to show for it and a losing BCS Bowl record.....definitely warrants this moniker......but keeping telling yourself different.

 

[Heisennberg]

Sure, stoops isnt perfect, but he's damn good. He's 35-0 after a loss in the regular season. He's 55-28 against the top 25, and that's the best top 25 record during that span. 10-7 against texas giving them their two worst defeats in their history. he's won all the bcs bowl games and a championship, something nobody else has done. As an Ou fan I'm very satisfied with having a coach that accomplished. Feels like we are in good hands. And yep, he has one championship. Awesome!

 

[jsto60]

"All he can do is win 3 times as many big 12 titles as 3 coaches at UT in same time period."

And still has the same amount of national Championships as TEXAS has in that same time period. Don't worry moses I'd be upset with "Big game bob" winning just one also....and laying the biggest egg against USC in the history of championship games.

Guess you could say ou has done less with more than any other program in the BCS era....all those Big XII Championships with ONE National Championship to show for it and a losing BCS Bowl record.....definitely warrants this moniker......but keeping telling yourself different.

Ouch.

Truth hurts. But they will spin this. Its what they do here. The same insecurities that cause them to live here also cause it.

 

[OULegacy76]

During the last 17 or 18 years many schools would absolutely love to have the team and individual success Oklahoma has had and that includes Texas. Perhaps Ou will get more big wins this year

 

[Heisennberg]

they certainly have an opportunity with 3 of their first 4 games against top 15 competition. Of course if Ou wins, they wont be considered big games.

 

[OULegacy76]

Exactly. When Ou wins vs a top ranked team it's because they were overrated lol. I've heard that for years

 

[Scholz]

And yep, he has one championship. Awesome!

 

[Heisennberg]

Exactly. When Ou wins vs a top ranked team it's because they were overrated lol. I've heard that for years

That game vs #2 undefeated ttech where they beat them by 44 points. 2008 was a fine year. Springboarded them to the big 12 cg and the national championship. Wasnt a big game, doesnt count.

 

[LonghornSoldier]

Soldier regardless of what you say, big games aren't just the ones that YOU consider big games. Common sense, other fans anywhere else, etc. all consider conference titles and top 10 wins big games. You just don't want to admit it because it doesn't help your argument. It's okay lol. I guess you didn't consider the OU/Texas games years ago big games even though at times we were both top ten and it was a huge conference game? Of course you did.

Yeah yet you dont consider the loss to Texas last year a big deal... b/c it wasnt a big game in your mind maybe? I mean the rhetoric has been ou still made the CFP so the Texas loss wasnt anything big......... hmmm. Funny how the double standards abound from okie fans....

 

[OULegacy76]

You completely made that up in your mind to help your argument. Lol. Please copy and paste where I've made that statement

 

[cml7374]

Let this sink in......TEXAS has one less BCS Bowl win and 4 less losses than ou along with the same amount of national Championships......if that's not food for thought for an ou fans I'm not sure what is

 

[LonghornSoldier]

You completely made that up in your mind to help your argument. Lol. Please copy and paste where I've made that statement

Feel free to reread threads... you know as well as I do that retard sooner fans have been downplaying the loss to Texas as nothing and pimping making the CFP.... maybe you were one of the voices maybe not.. but heisenberg etc have been bumping their gums for awhile about this.... and nobody ever bothered to correct them on it..

as far as copy and paste - naw, you got a coomputer, an account and access - READ for yourself.

 

[TexExSpur]

If Texas beats 1 of ND, OSU, OU, T

Feel free to reread threads... you know as well as I do that retard sooner fans have been downplaying the loss to Texas as nothing and pimping making the CFP.... maybe you were one of the voices maybe not.. but heisenberg etc have been bumping their gums for awhile about this.... and nobody ever bothered to correct them on it..

as far as copy and paste - naw, you got a coomputer, an account and access - READ for yourself.

Yes, they have...it's smeared all over this site. Like monkeys flinging poo, they love to throw shit at the wall to see if it sticks.

 

[Scholz]

... you know as well as I do that retard sooner fans have been downplaying the loss to Texas as nothing and pimping making the CFP.... maybe you were one of the voices maybe not..

Yeah, he was the main one. Dishonestly called us OSU aggys for enjoying that win.

 

[Heisennberg]

Let this sink in......TEXAS has one less BCS Bowl win and 4 less losses than ou along with the same amount of national Championships......if that's not food for thought for an ou fans I'm not sure what is

How many big 12 championships? What about their record vs the top 25 in that time frame? Which of the two has had 3 losing seasons since their last trip to the championship?

 

[Scholz]

big 12 championships

Why don't you clowns just all change your names to this?

 

[LongfellowDrew]

Pretty much has me with this back and forth.

Football needs to start already.

 

[OULegacy76]

Agreed