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Charlie Strong interviewing for USF

My guess is he takes ridiculous low pay the first two years and adds those dollars to the end of the contract. They offer him a 5 year contract paying him 500K the first two years while Texas pays him additional 4.5. He then gets about 6 million added to the end of his last 3 years making the total 5 year 5 million with USF only paying him 16 million out of the total 25.

USF pays him 3 million a year for 5 years, but he gets a a 5 year 25 million deal.
 
My guess is he takes ridiculous low pay the first two years and adds those dollars to the end of the contract. They offer him a 5 year contract paying him 500K the first two years while Texas pays him additional 4.5. He then gets about 6 million added to the end of his last 3 years making the total 5 year 5 million with USF only paying him 16 million out of the total 25.

USF pays him 3 million a year for 5 years, but he gets a a 5 year 25 million deal.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing actually. basically work for free the first two years and let Texas pay him. Gives Strong some leverage in getting asst coaches to... less money he makes more money for staff.
 
I heard on XM radio this morning that Taggert offered Strong the DC position. They also mentioned that not only is the rumor that he will take the USF HC job, but, that it is already on his Wiki page. I verified this and it is true. If you look on the far right of the wiki page where it has the summary of dates and positions, it says 2016 South Florida. I really hope things work out for him.
 
I heard on XM radio this morning that Taggert offered Strong the DC position. They also mentioned that not only is the rumor that he will take the USF HC job, but, that it is already on his Wiki page. I verified this and it is true. If you look on the far right of the wiki page where it has the summary of dates and positions, it says 2016 South Florida. I really hope things work out for him.
I think hes a good coach and I think he will be the head coach of a P5 school again some day. Just didn't work out at Texas forca lot of reasons. Some his doing and some not
 
South Florida hasn't done their due diligence. Just watch some of his Texas games. Even against weak opponents. My opinion he's a lousy coach not deserving of any college level head coach job. Even when he coordinated the D we still couldn't tackle.
 
Yeah I was thinking the same thing actually. basically work for free the first two years and let Texas pay him. Gives Strong some leverage in getting asst coaches to... less money he makes more money for staff.
He needs all the help he can get picking a staff. At Shawn Watson and les koenning are probably available if wants to go that route.
 
I think hes a good coach and I think he will be the head coach of a P5 school again some day. Just didn't work out at Texas forca lot of reasons. Some his doing and some not
I agree. Nobody can walk away from an experience like he did at Texas and not learn anything. That experience (as negative as it ended) can serve him well in his future jobs.
 
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Strong may end up redeeming himself. He hasn't been a coach very long. He just started late, and Texas just isn't the place to be on a learning curve. If he does end up at USF, my guess is his initial staff will be better than what he brought here.
 
South Florida hasn't done their due diligence. Just watch some of his Texas games. Even against weak opponents. My opinion he's a lousy coach not deserving of any college level head coach job. Even when he coordinated the D we still couldn't tackle.
Not tackling is an epedimic in all levels of football.

Look things just didn't work,out here but to say he's a lousy coach is just silly. He basically has the same resume as his replacement prior to coming to Texas, and when you look at the 2 and 3 star kids at Louisville he put in the NFL. The guy can clearly coach
 
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Good luck to Coach Strong. Solid dude, wish him the best. Wouldn't mind if he ended up on the OU staff, but doubt that will happen.
 
I think it was a combination of a lot of things. The program was in a bad way. Worse than I think anyone wanted to admit. The boosters hated the AD so there was turmoil there as well. Add that to Strong not being that popular a hire from the get go.

Strong then made some errors in his staff hiring which got him off to a bad start. All of that created an environment that I don't think many people could succeed in.

Herman already is off to a better start because everyone seems to be on the same page, and if someone isn't they are being quite about it...for now anyway.
 
Wonder why Texas hired him then MM if he was that way, I think Politics made him over his head.


Hook'em

There's politics everywhere, not just at Texas. Strong made bad assistant coaching choices and then stuck with them too long when they should have been replaced. Bottom line is, he didn't show any sign of progress. He was given every chance to succeed, and all he had to do was probably go 7-5 this year and he would have been back, and he couldn't even do that. The loss to Kansas was the final straw. Strong was a bad hire by Texas and it set the FB program back several years.
 
I hope it's not true with USF hiring Strong. I wanted him to get a job after this coming season reason why. Strong has a major connections to players on UT, recruits looking to go to UT and parents of these kids. If he's hired, I think kids will take a hard look at Florida and everyone knows the kids loves the beach and pretty women (not saying Texas is bad because we all know it's the greatest state but it is Florida). Recruits all talk to each other. UT is safe with its JR's and SO's but RS Freshmen and true Freshmen might take a hard look because some of those kids chose UT for Strong but the most chose for UT. I just hope it's not true. keep an eye on Fowler and B Jones
 
There's politics everywhere, not just at Texas. Strong made bad assistant coaching choices and then stuck with them too long when they should have been replaced. Bottom line is, he didn't show any sign of progress. He was given every chance to succeed, and all he had to do was probably go 7-5 this year and he would have been back, and he couldn't even do that. The loss to Kansas was the final straw. Strong was a bad hire by Texas and it set the FB program back several years.

Agreed for the most part, but I don't think he really set the program back several years. Short of hiring Saban or Meyer, we were likely going to be pretty unimpressive for the first two years with most coaches -- and for the first year with anyone. The talent was in place to see a substantial improvement this year, however, and the staff really screwed the pooch.

The roster is in vastly better shape now than when he got here, though, and Herman should be able to get this turned around quickly if he avoids Strong's mistakes.
 
I hope it's not true with USF hiring Strong. I wanted him to get a job after this coming season reason why. Strong has a major connections to players on UT, recruits looking to go to UT and parents of these kids. If he's hired, I think kids will take a hard look at Florida and everyone knows the kids loves the beach and pretty women (not saying Texas is bad because we all know it's the greatest state but it is Florida). Recruits all talk to each other. UT is safe with its JR's and SO's but RS Freshmen and true Freshmen might take a hard look because some of those kids chose UT for Strong but the most chose for UT. I just hope it's not true. keep an eye on Fowler and B Jones

Texas isn't losing players to South Florida. Don't worry about that.
 
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Huh? Where did you pull that out of? :rolleyes:
Well you said hiring strong set the program back years. I take that to mean you believe we will spend years digging out from this. I'd say while Strong may not of ultimately got it done he left us in s better place talent wise than we were when he got here.

I mean this is a roster you could see winning 8 games at least next year. I'm not sure that was the case in year 1 of strong.
 
Well you said hiring strong set the program back years. I take that to mean you believe we will spend years digging out from this. I'd say while Strong may not of ultimately got it done he left us in s better place talent wise than we were when he got here.

I mean this is a roster you could see winning 8 games at least next year. I'm not sure that was the case in year 1 of strong.

Mack set the program back 7 yrs! CS just got caught in the gate and couldn't get right..but, CS did straighten the locker room out and make everyone go to class and stop the women problem


Hook'em
 
Speaking of West Texas football Sweetwater punched their ticket last night for state and Balmorhea for 6 man playing for state as well

yep.. really proud of Sweetwater, didn't think they would make it this far. Then there's Iraan making it to the finals.
 
to be honest, at this point, based on the downward spiral thru the season.. I would vote against Charlie coaching Odessa Permian.
I do not disagree. I'm only saying his next HC opportunity should be in Florida & not in a P-5 conference. However, I would not rush to hire him next season. I would like to see Strong develop more and learn from a good P-5 coach again-as a coordinator.
 
I do not disagree. I'm only saying his next HC opportunity should be in Florida & not in a P-5 conference. However, I would not rush to hire him next season. I would like to see Strong develop more and learn from a good P-5 coach again-as a coordinator.

knew where you were coming from 4MN.. enjoy your post
 
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Wonder why Texas hired him then MM if he was that way, I think Politics made him over his head.


Hook'em

Politics was one part, he did do some good for the program, he just didn't win.

The boosters hated the AD so there was turmoil there as well. Add that to Strong not being that popular a hire from the get go.

Strong then made some errors in his staff hiring which got him off to a bad start. All of that created an environment that I don't think many people could succeed in.

Herman already is off to a better start because everyone seems to be on the same page, and if someone isn't they are being quite about it...for now anyway.

1. At the time of the hire, the Boosters didn't hate the AD, that started later with some of his decisions.

2. Most were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, a select few thought he was a terrible hire.

3. His hires for assistant were terrible, and he was called out on it, We knew Les Keonig was a shit hire, he was shit under Fred Akers. We knew Shawn Watson was a shit hire, he was shit at Nebraska and Colorado. I thought Wickline was a home run hire, and that turned out to be total FUBAR.

I hope it's not true with USF hiring Strong. I wanted him to get a job after this coming season reason why. Strong has a major connections to players on UT, recruits looking to go to UT and parents of these kids. If he's hired, I think kids will take a hard look at Florida and everyone knows the kids loves the beach and pretty women (not saying Texas is bad because we all know it's the greatest state but it is Florida). Recruits all talk to each other. UT is safe with its JR's and SO's but RS Freshmen and true Freshmen might take a hard look because some of those kids chose UT for Strong but the most chose for UT. I just hope it's not true. keep an eye on Fowler and B Jones

Anyone willing to go to USF from Texas is doing so because they can't compete.

Well you said hiring strong set the program back years. I take that to mean you believe we will spend years digging out from this. I'd say while Strong may not of ultimately got it done he left us in s better place talent wise than we were when he got here.

I mean this is a roster you could see winning 8 games at least next year. I'm not sure that was the case in year 1 of strong.

Strong's three years were a complete waste, a better coach would have had us doing much better with the talent he recruited.
 
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Add that to Strong not being that popular a hire from the get go.
I don't know where you or the herbstreit type media keep getting this notion. Yes, we all know Mcombs made a public remark about it, but, other than that, I believe the vast majority loved the hire. There were very few that didn't like the hire and add to that, Strong had a very good resume. Part of it may have been from the emotional roller coaster we went through in the Saban to Texas fantasy.
 
Well when you hire a coach and one of your top two biggest boosters says "he'd be a good coordinator that doesn't exactly get things off to a roaring start. you may want to just say eh no big deal but it kind of set a tone.

I'm sure there are those that are probably not fans of the Herman hire. They are staying quite for now.
 
Well when you hire a coach and one of your top two biggest boosters says "he'd be a good coordinator that doesn't exactly get things off to a roaring start. you may want to just say eh no big deal but it kind of set a tone.

I'm sure there are those that are probably not fans of the Herman hire. They are staying quite for now.
Like a dog on a bone......How does a booster saying that (then apologizing and taking him to dinner) make him hire and coach so poorly?? I really want to know dude.

Not to mention Ole Red was correct in what he said....
 
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