I'd say it is the opposite. As it pretty much says when we had the cache of being associated with the big boys we could get the recruits needed to ruin the big boys' seasons.
Football Realignment & The Big 12
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I'd say it is the opposite. As it pretty much says when we had the cache of being associated with the big boys we could get the recruits needed to ruin the big boys' seasons.
LMFAO.
If y'all want some real entertainment, check out the realignment discussions on the Scout Cougar High free board. Plenty more breathtaking stupidity and delusion where this guy came from.
Because History repeats itself and Houston has always been a blue blood.
It's almost hard to believe, but I think Cougar High fans have a view of their sh*tty school and insignificant football program that makes even your average aggy's take look sober and balanced.
OK, will do. Thanks for stopping by. Isn't it time for you to commute home from class now?
So, since no one here supports your opinion of UH joining the Big 12, you then turn around and attempt to insult everyone for disagreeing with you? You do realize that UH has very little fan support, doesn't travel well, and adds hardly anything as far as TV ratings, right? One good year because of Tom Hermann doesn't make UH a national power. He'll most likely be gone for greener pastures after this coming season anyway.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO....NO NO NO NO.......Not a chance in hell.
Put. Down.The. Crack.Pipe.
Dude... you are seriously giving the resident aggys here a run for their money with the delusion in your head......
I actually would be ok with UH in the conference. I say that because I think they have a geographical fit. And I do think they could have some success on the field. I would want them to enhance their stadium and campus and/or just start playing in the NFL stadium.
I get why the race for realignment is driven by TV dollars to spread yourselves out geographically. But I think at some point the risk will outdo the gain. Ie the TV $ won't keep climbing at ridiculous rates and eventually will max out and potentially even shrink. And when that happens. Programs are already losing $ on girls volleyball flying out from Texas to Oregon to play on a Tuesday. So either the revenue generating sports will have to cut back or the nonrevenue generating ones will just cease to exists.
Bottom line, I think the greed of conf commissioners are going to build this thing too big.....so big so that it will collapse on itself. Thanks to greed. And not common sense. Like school A being able to travel quickly to play school b and get their student athletes in all sports back to campus to heaven forbid...study and take an exam or two. Plus I liked the older BigXII and even SWC, you know when students and fans could actually travel to most games. It just makes sense. In that regard UH makes sense to me.
And the other thing I think some are scared of is waking a sleeping giant. Screw that. I am all for competition. Let the best man win. If UH can build something on the field, good for them. We just need to be that much better. Truth is there are only so many D1 elite athletes. The saw teeter totters. UH could go up and BU or TCU or even UT would then go down. I wouldn't bet on it being UT going down permanently. Not scared of it. Do work.
I get why the race for realignment is driven by TV dollars to spread yourselves out geographically. But I think at some point the risk will outdo the gain. Ie the TV $ won't keep climbing at ridiculous rates and eventually will max out and potentially even shrink. And when that happens. Programs are already losing $ on girls volleyball flying out from Texas to Oregon to play on a Tuesday. So either the revenue generating sports will have to cut back or the nonrevenue generating ones will just cease to exists.
Bottom line, I think the greed of conf commissioners are going to build this thing too big.....so big so that it will collapse on itself. Thanks to greed. And not common sense. Like school A being able to travel quickly to play school b and get their student athletes in all sports back to campus to heaven forbid...study and take an exam or two. Plus I liked the older BigXII and even SWC, you know when students and fans could actually travel to most games. It just makes sense. In that regard UH makes sense to me.
And the other thing I think some are scared of is waking a sleeping giant. Screw that. I am all for competition. Let the best man win. If UH can build something on the field, good for them. We just need to be that much better. Truth is there are only so many D1 elite athletes. The saw teeter totters. UH could go up and BU or TCU or even UT would then go down. I wouldn't bet on it being UT going down permanently. Not scared of it. Do work.
lol
So much hate for UH it's funny. actually live in Austin (westlake) having moved from Honolulu last year. Ive never so many dumbasses bumping around with stupid orange horns on their beater cars. I don't think half of them even went to UT but some people need to belong. I myself, prefer the underdog!
My wife went to Texas abd when we meet she shared many of the false notions about Houston as you do. You can't help being ignorant but at least your smarter than the average Aggie.
So much hate for UH it's funny. actually live in Austin (westlake) having moved from Honolulu last year. Ive never so many dumbasses bumping around with stupid orange horns on their beater cars. I don't think half of them even went to UT but some people need to belong. I myself, prefer the underdog!
My wife went to Texas abd when we meet she shared many of the false notions about Houston as you do. You can't help being ignorant but at least your smarter than the average Aggie.
Really? Do tell us about the storied history and championship accolades of UofH and how much they bring to the table in the conference they are... Tell us about their expansive alumni base, rich traditions and recent championship chases.... i mean even ISU has made a dman good run in search for a title in basketball...we have a few National champions in baseball, football and basketball in this conference.... and thats just the Big 3mens sports.... im sure Houston has something comparable... Im also sure that Houston has the facilites to compete within the Big 12 as well....
But the one thing I am definitely sure about is that the UofH brings NOTHING to the Big 12 in ANY form what so ever, and my belief is echoed by damn near eery sports writer and analyst that doesnt pimp UofH in the local paper..... you cant deliver a market you dont own, regardless of what you think after 2 years.... When Texas is doing what we are supposed to do, WE command damn near every market in Texas... look it up.
You bring NOTHING and would simply be a drag on the Big 12 that would eventually wind up COSTING members money due to having to share with a school that exists in a market already covered by the Big 12 in most years, has no influence over recruiting in the area when it comes to top talent, and would just be a drain on the entire situation.... These are the things that the experts actually QUOTE as to why UofH wouldnt make it in to the Big 12.... and pretty much every one of those ppl think UofH would be on tier with a Crummy Texas Tech/Baylor level team from the early days of the Big 12... doormats.
I get it, you are a Houston fan.... but you are also an idiot if you truly believe all that crap you have been posting..... Unless you are trying to suggest that you know more than damn near every sprots writer, analyst, coach and commentator on the planet.... and if you are then we have bigger problems than you having stupid thoughts about what a crappy conference USA level team would be able to do in the Big 12 and to Texas.... and while im on it, what is the head to head between Texas and UofH? Texas has won 8 of the last 10, and there has been no decade in which Houston has had a winnign record vs Texas in football.... oh and of those 8 of 10 Texas won, the avergae margin of victory was close to 30 points.... not sure why you think houston has any chance in hell of beating UT ass.... 16-7-2 is the series record... you guys sport about the same winning percentage against Texas that the aggys do......... now the delusion is starting to make sense, as is the fact that you are really sounding liek an aggy.... Daddy issues.. Daddy being The University of Texas spanking that ass all the time and having no need for you and forcing you to live in the long shadow we cast over this State..... enjoy your pipe dream though, UofH wont ever make any of the P5 conferences no matter how much you and your fans huff and puff.... there IS a reason you guys havent been invited to one by now- (in Wayne's Voice )- YOU'RE NOT WORTHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now dont make me have to tell you to go back to the kiddie table again... you are just embarassing yourself...
Side note - Houston is a cool city, but UofH isnt on the big boy level and has ALWAYS been pwned by Texas. You cant argue that either as history, FACTS and reality confirm all I have said. Now, kick rocks junior your act is getting old.
It was owned by the SEC but not UofH... and you think MAYBE the reason the bowl game had the viewership it did was bc FSU - recent national champions - was in it and had nothing to do with Houston being in the game? And I love your selective time frame of the last few years while Texas is down, acting like that is the norm... you are beyond ignorant. Either way if Texas is doing what we should be doing then we own the State for the most part, check it out.
LOL. Thank you for being an object lesson in why no one ever says the same about any of the human detritus that Cougar High shits out.
Now do humanity a favor and guzzle some bleach, Angelo State reject.
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And it clearly wasn't just a one-time mistake! Nope, you're just your run-of-the-mill, subliterate Cougar High trash.
Aaaaaaaaand the dumb chimp still can't read for shit. Good grief.
No wonder most of us discovered we'd already placed out of UH upon graduating high school.
Hey now, not everyone can get into the best coaching university in the state.
Man that was great, just what I needed to get me through to the weekend!
Can y'all imagine what Clob would be saying to that cougar high d-bag if he was around? Good gosh, now that would've been funny.
BBR and LS brought their A game though! Well done boys
Can y'all imagine what Clob would be saying to that cougar high d-bag if he was around? Good gosh, now that would've been funny.
BBR and LS brought their A game though! Well done boys
I don't see how adding Houston would make sense, even under your scenario. If the argument is that the TV money is going to dry up, then how does Houston replace that money? They still aren't a big draw. If the argument is that conferences will go back to being smaller and closer geographically, then why add Houston to a conference that stretches North to Iowa and East to West Virginia? If that's the argument, it would make more sense to blow up the Big 12 and go basically reform the SWC.
Not many options for the conference and UT. Option 1: UT goes independent. Option 2: conference expands but add who? Option 3: UT, OKIE, OKIE ST and maybe TT goes on the merry-go-round with the PAC 12 again. Then the Big 12 could add U of H, SMU, TULSA and Cincy.
The Big 12 is in a bad position. The only positive would be a miracle of getting the ACC schools
The Big 12 is in a bad position. The only positive would be a miracle of getting the ACC schools
They help in that scenario because we have to add teams period. Or we go belly up.
Also one more team adds $. Period. I get more TV sets is even more $. But a 12 team BigXII will get more in a TV contract than a 10 team. And UH winning games as a better team than say Colorado St....gets more bowl $.
And mostly I wasn't worried about $ all that much in my scenario. UH is a viable team because adding teams is inevitable.....or the conf goes defunct. So on the most basic level they do add value. Not all is monetary.
I just can't think of U of H bring anything to the table. If the conference does decide to, it will go east and west, not add another Texas school. If they did, that means 5 Texas schools and how would you divide the conference. UT and OKIE wants to play each other every year, not every other year. Okie St will not be split up from Okie.
But the Big 12 doesn't have to add teams. That's the flaw right there. The only thing new teams bring to the conference is money. The only other problem the Big 12 has is not have the 13th data point of a CCG, but that can be accomplished now by adding a CCG under the new rules.
Conference don't get more money just for the sake of adding new teams. That's simply false. Conferences only get more money for adding teams if the new teams bring value. Houston doesn't bring value because they aren't a very popular team, and the Big 12 already has the Houston TV market.
The logical choice for adding teams is BYU and Boise. Both are available, but have good followings and in the case of BYU has a huge viewership, probably second only to Texas in national appeal. However, Adding two far west schools kills West Virginia and further isolates them from the rest of the conference.
There is nothing out east that is appealing outside of Notre Dame, and they aren't coming. So the smart thing to do is wait until it gets closer to renewal time and we see what happens.
There is nothing out east that is appealing outside of Notre Dame, and they aren't coming. So the smart thing to do is wait until it gets closer to renewal time and we see what happens.
I agree with waiting on the right opportunity. UCF, USF, Memphis, Houston, Cincinnati, etc. aren't attractive potential additions.
I disagree. I think if the conference wants to not implode in the next decade. It has to at least get to 12 teams. Or else it isn't viable. A vulture conf steals just one more team or if just one team gets pissed and leaves....the BigXII is doomed. It will either then be a mass exodus, or a race to find some crappy team to at least get us back to 10. Either way, the clock is ticking.
I'm glad the rule change allows a CC. But it isn't the only problem the conf has. Other problems will be magnified.
Here's just one scenario. With only 10 teams and a round robin schedule. A CC game ensures a rematch. When the team that won the reg season game goes and loses the CC game. In the past, it is proven that chances are astronomically higher that one or both get left out of the at large bid or now the playoff system. Non round robin conf teams still face this issue (its where we got our astronomical data points from), but not annually.
To sum it up, it is a given that the BigXII with less teams and round robins will do more screwing each other over in CC games. Period. Put that in your data spread sheet.
I know UH doesn't automatically add $ (except for the FACT that adding teams gives a higher chance that the conference doesn't implode and then make ZERO $'s annually....which I think IS a given, thus any team including some HS program does intrinsically add value).........I just think UH more than many of the other schools we are looking at....is a bit of a sleeping giant. Wake em up, get more recruits, have a better program, win more games, win bigger bowls......and its a guarantee they DO add $ (than say CU St which might compete with Kansas for the cellar).
And I don't like UH. I just think geographically that make absolute sense. And I do think they could win more games than say Colorado St (who obviously adds more TVs). And I am less worried about TVs and more worried about long term competitiveness of the conference (I wish all the ADs had this idea as the heart of their expansion issue...build the best product....make NCAA football even better....if you build it, fans will come). Ultimately I think that adds the most value. And I do think distance, while it does add TVs.....clearly also increases travel time/expenses/student athlete "student" status.....and ultimately when the who system collapses thanks to greed.....I'd like to have the geographical to lean on.
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When you wake up in the morning, look in the mirror... and say hi to the dumbass.
Hook 'em
Having 12 teams is not going to give the conference any more protection. The main reason the Big 12 is at a disadvantage is that it makes less money than the SEC and Big Ten. That's is what's causing the problems. It's not the number of teams. Adding Houston and Cincinnati is not going to make it less likely for Texas or Oklahoma to leave.
Not according to the Big 12's research. It says that simply adding a CCG will increase the Big 12's odds of making the playoffs by 5%. I'm not sold on their research methods, but that's the figure they came up with.
I'll go back to my point. If the whole system collapses, you won't need anything to "lean on." The entire world of college sports will be in the same boat, so everyone will be reforming conference alliances. It won't be anything unique to the Big 12. There is no benefit to setting up your conference for a scenario that isn't even happening. If/when that ever does happen, Houston will still be there. You can easily reform a geographic conference whenever that happens, without screwing yourself in the present.
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