What a joke. 10 Point Fav at home. I am calling it now, he wont make it 3 years. Bookmark this.
Herman gets a D this year.... Maybe a D-
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Agree. No longer buying what Herman is selling. When you accept $5M you better produce results. He has not demonstrated improvement of any kind. No sugar coating. Tom needs to do some so searching. WHAT A PATHETIC GAME PLAN. WHAT PATHETIC COACHING. WHAT PATHETIC RESULTS.
Herman lost me tonight when he blamed circumstances. MAN UP TOM....admit you failed
Tired of him already. The entire f*cking world knew that the Tim Beck hire was a disaster in the making — aside from our offensive genius of a head coach, of course. And even with the benefit of an entire goddamned season of hindsight, the genius will still misdiagnose the problems.
Another losing season of Texas football is almost in the books. Can’t end soon enough.
Another losing season of Texas football is almost in the books. Can’t end soon enough.
Remember when Charlie refused to admit he made a bad OC hire in Watson and waited a year too long to fire him . . . and that blunder probably cost him his job??
Will Tom Herman do the same thing and experience the same fate? The irony boggles the mind!
Will Tom Herman do the same thing and experience the same fate? The irony boggles the mind!
It’s no secret that I was never a big fan of the Herman hire, and there are certainly some concerning signs he’s head8ng down a similar path of 3 years ago. I do however think there is some talent in this program. They need quality coaching and development. The best thing Herman could do for himself and the program is go out and get the best OC and OL coach money can buy. If you want to be a national title contender your coordinators need to be future HC’s or former head coaches in most cases.
I know a coach that once went 6–5–1, 6–6, 7–5, and 6-6 in his first 4 years on a job. He now has 5 NC.
Some of you idiots need to get over yourselves.
Some of you idiots need to get over yourselves.
It's hard to fathom there being a weaker argument that this. How many coaches can you find with comparable records who went on to do nothing of significance at all? How about comparing those ratios for us?
You don’t get that much time in today’s world to figure it out. And he didn’t win any of his titles at that school.
He also never had a losing season as a head coach over his entire career.
Let’s see what happens in the bowl game.
Sadly, too many people have no patience with any head coach at Texas if he doesn't win every game. Its a no-win situation and a pressure cooker of a job, and then throw into the mix the unrealistic expectations from the fans. I think Herman will end up being a good coach here when its all said and done, but he deserves time to get the job done. People calling for his head now are idiots.
No weaker than crying because a coach didn't go 12-0 in his first season. It takes time to implement a program.
8-4 apparently was way too much to ask. Beating Tech (6-6) was too much to ask. Beating Maryland (4-7) was too much to ask. Having a competent offense on par with Kansas is too much to ask. WTF?
No one said 12-0. We were asking for 8-4, not 6-6. We were asking for offensive progression, not regression.
I certainly don’t think anyone expected Texas to go 12-0, but even the biggest Herman fan has to admit last night was bad, and a game even a mediocre Texas team should be able to hang on and win. He got a pass for the Maryland game( as he should have). This one was equally embaressing though. I mean I think Charlie Strong is a better coach than he showed here. But I’m willing to admit he didn’t get the job done... same should be able said for Herman for this year anyway. Doesn’t mean he won’t get it done.
I haven't seen anyone here call for his head. Maybe it's happened, but I haven't seen it on here. What I've seen people do is predict that Herman is putting himself on a path to near-certain dismissal after three seasons if he can't recognize the fact that he hired an utterly inadequate OC. Just like Charlie, he's salting his own earth.
Also, reasonable fans did not expect to win the Big 12 or make the CFP this year. It's not an unrealistic expectation that when you're given access to all the resources you have here, you won't hitch your wagon to an OC who has underwhelmed (at best) everywhere he's been.
Our coaches & players sh!t the bed last night & this season. I’m realistic & hold everyone to the same standard - Strong, Herman, Mack, etc.
I think that you are incapable of posting in a thread without bringing up Charlie Strong.
Exactly. People including me were quick to make unreasonable comments last night but in the moment it happens but by no means were people saying one and done. That’s stupid. He gets EQUAL time that Charlie got. Especially after this season and the way it began and the way it’s ending. Maybe Tom Herman can surprise us all and make the necessary corrections but he doesn’t seem like a guy that will admit he’s wrong and change things. He’s stubborn and that will be his downfall if it continues.
This sad straw-man rejoinder is arguably even weaker than your first post.
It certainly does. And when you make critically suboptimal decisions from the outset, you imperil your chances of ever being able to execute that vision.
You are the definition of unrealistic.
You define progress based on stats, like we play the same team every week.
I hate to break it to you, but when you plan to start the season with Williams, Vahe, Shackleford, Major, and Rodriguez as your Oline, and finish with Williams, McMillon, Shackleford, Cuney, and Kerstetter as you Oline, you do not see improvement over the course of the season.
I agree with you there because insert Nickelson and Okafor and you have an absolute garbage line.
So help me out omnipotent one. What suboptimal decisions are you talking about?
Wins and losses at the end of the day is the only stat that matters and whst all coaches are judged on. It doesn’t matter how close the games are, who was hurt, or any of that. 6-6 is mediocre at best and I think below what we all expected(even if by a win or two). Maybe valid reasons why we fell short this year but they don’t matter. The only thing that matters is we fell short this year
I mean Nick Saban went 6-6 his first year at Bama. I promise you if we looked at quotes from him that year he wouldn’t be saying things like “well I need my players”or “it takes time” he’d be saying “we weren’t good enough need to be better”. That’s the kind of attitude we should have. Even if all those excuses are true. W-L is all that matters.
Herman has a chance to be better next year. Hopefully he will be, but year 1 was disappointing. No way around it.
I mean Nick Saban went 6-6 his first year at Bama. I promise you if we looked at quotes from him that year he wouldn’t be saying things like “well I need my players”or “it takes time” he’d be saying “we weren’t good enough need to be better”. That’s the kind of attitude we should have. Even if all those excuses are true. W-L is all that matters.
Herman has a chance to be better next year. Hopefully he will be, but year 1 was disappointing. No way around it.
Are you talking about moronic posts like this one? Can you be a little more specific?
Are you under the impression that Bill Walsh or Jon Gruden can take 2 QBs that both missed time due to injuries and an Oline made up of back-ups from a team that won 4 games the year before and win games on a consistent basis?
Maybe we should hire Jesus as our OC.
I think if the hype in spring and fall camp wasn’t so high, people would have had lesser expectations. But almost everybody bought into what he was saying before seeing the product on the field. Unfortunately that’s the Texas fan base and coaches are scrutinized from the second they are on campus because of unrealistic expectations. However, losing to tech and Maryland did him no favors.
So Tim Beck maximized our offensive production this year, given the challenging circumstances? That's the idiocy you're going with, yes?
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