Hudson Card

[Hoookem722]

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Card: 69% completion percent
6 TD and 1 Int
158 rating

Ewers: 55% completion percentage
13 TD to 6 Int
129 rating

wow!

If you want to compare apples to apples then compare Card's numbers from last season when he was a freshman as well. He only had a 138 passer rating and 61% completion percentage. Card is supposed to be above Quinn at this point because he had a whole extra year in the system. You go with Quinn though because he has the higher ceiling. Look at Card's best game and it's nowhere near what Quinn's best game is.

I'd also argue that the strength of opponent Quinn has faced is a lot tougher than what Card has.

All that said i'm not against giving Card a shot this Saturday if Quinn struggles. I just don't think Card is the long term answer at QB though.

 

[hookem777]

If you want to compare apples to apples then compare Card's numbers from last season when he was a freshman as well. He only had a 138 passer rating and 61% completion percentage. Card is supposed to be above Quinn at this point because he had a whole extra year in the system. You go with Quinn though because he has the higher ceiling. Look at Card's best game and it's nowhere near what Quinn's best game is.

I'd also argue that the strength of opponent Quinn has faced is a lot tougher than what Card has.

All that said i'm not against giving Card a shot this Saturday if Quinn struggles. I just don't think Card is the long term answer at QB though.

The season is basically over .. you keep Quinn in. You let him get reps and open the competition again in the spring. You've stuck with him all year at this point. No reason to not finish with him. Just my opinion.

 

[Hoookem722]

The season is basically over .. you keep Quinn in. You let him get reps and open the competition again in the spring. You've stuck with him all year at this point. No reason to not finish with him. Just my opinion.

I think we badly need to win out and get to 8-4 to try and sway some of these recruits that are on the fence. Who knows, maybe this week is the week the lightbulb flips on for Quinn. But if he struggles again the last thing I want to do is lose to Kansas again. Just find a way to win.

 

[hookem777]

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I think we badly need to win out and get to 8-4 to try and sway some of these recruits that are on the fence. Who knows, maybe this week is the week the lightbulb flips on for Quinn. But if he struggles again the last thing I want to do is lose to Kansas again. Just find a way to win.

You're right . Absolutely cannot lose to Kansas again

 

[sgbhorns]

Now compare teams he played vs Quinn....sacks...and play call

If you want to compare apples to apples then compare Card's numbers from last season when he was a freshman as well. He only had a 138 passer rating and 61% completion percentage. Card is supposed to be above Quinn at this point because he had a whole extra year in the system. You go with Quinn though because he has the higher ceiling. Look at Card's best game and it's nowhere near what Quinn's best game is.

I'd also argue that the strength of opponent Quinn has faced is a lot tougher than what Card has.

All that said i'm not against giving Card a shot this Saturday if Quinn struggles. I just don't think Card is the long term answer at QB though.

Good points and I pretty much agree, at this point I just think it’s better to go with a game manager for a year or two until Manning is ready.

 

[hookem777]

Good points and I pretty much agree, at this point I just think it’s better to go with a game manager for a year or two until Manning is ready.

Just pretty harsh to give up on Quinn. Give him time

 

[weevilcatch]

Card: 69% completion percent
6 TD and 1 Int
158 rating

Ewers: 55% completion percentage
13 TD to 6 Int
129 rating

wow!

Card your brother or what? lol

Quinn has been on the struggle bus, but damn man...Card is a throw it lateral and inside 5 yards type of QB. If that is the offense we want to run then great. That's how you keep the INT low and Comp % high. It's also how you have serious issues against athletic defenses. But let's stop acting like Card is a championship caliber QB. He isn't.

 

[weevilcatch]

Just pretty harsh to give up on Quinn. Give him time

More than harsh, it's idiotic

 

[weevilcatch]

More than harsh, it's idiotic

I was wrong about Quinn. I stated as much in several threads. However, his talent level and ceiling are as high as anyone in college football. He isn't as developed mentally as I thought...that is what I was wrong about. He may not be the transcendent QB we had hoped. I'm also not sold on Sark. Doesn't mean I want to pull the plug on both. Just nonsense.

 

[sgbhorns]

Card your brother or what? lol

Quinn has been on the struggle bus, but damn man...Card is a throw it lateral and inside 5 yards type of QB. If that is the offense we want to run then great. That's how you keep the INT low and Comp % high. It's also how you have serious issues against athletic defenses. But let's stop acting like Card is a championship caliber QB. He isn't.

The topic of this discussion is Hudson Card. So yes, I’m commenting on it.
Card may not be the quarterback that he was projected to be, will never know, but I can say that we would’ve won OK state and tech with him at QB. All we would have needed was average QB play. Card did not look great last year, but he didn’t look pathetic either. How much time will you need for Ewers, he only has one year left.
I hope Ewers can improve quickly because coach isn’t gonna try anything else. If his name wasn’t Ewers, you would say the same.

 

[weevilcatch]

The topic of this discussion is Hudson Card. So yes, I’m commenting on it.
Card may not be the quarterback that he was projected to be, will never know, but I can say that we would’ve won OK state and tech with him at QB. All we would have needed was average QB play. Card did not look great last year, but he didn’t look pathetic either. How much time will you need for Ewers, he only has one year left.
I hope Ewers can improve quickly because coach isn’t gonna try anything else. If his name wasn’t Ewers, you would say the same.

Card was the QB for Tech...and we lost.

Card was bad enough last year that he was pulled...twice.

On this site, many times, I have stated I'd be open to giving Card a run if Ewers struggles at Kansas. So I'm not sure what that last sentence is meant to imply.

 

[sgbhorns]

Just pretty harsh to give up on Quinn. Give him

Card was the QB for Tech...and we lost.

Card was bad enough last year that he was pulled...twice.

On this site, many times, I have stated I'd be open to giving Card a run if Ewers struggles at Kansas. So I'm not sure what that last sentence is meant to imply.

You’re right, my bad on the Tech Game. I think we’re all just super frustrated at the situation the teams in and believe trying the quarterback change when Ewers obviously struggling so hard can’t hurt.

 

[weevilcatch]

You’re right, my bad on the Tech Game. I think we’re all just super frustrated at the situation the teams in and believe trying the quarterback change when Ewers obviously struggling so hard can’t hurt.

All good. We're all definitely frustrated. I saw someone make the point that the Alabama game kind of skewed our expectations. And it turns out Alabama isn't what they've been in the past, so it kind of dulls the performance. Truth is, most of us would've taken 8-4 with a bowl win to go 9-4. We're very close to that. However, the way in which we have gotten here causes some concerns, as we have discussed here.

Hopefully Ewers drops his nut sack and starts to get a little more vocal. His body language has been bad and I think has affected the offense. If not, hopefully Card can come in and inject some life. There is still games to win even if there isn't a Big 12 title spot on the line.

Also, the OL has been porous as a unit, especially at RG. I think we may see DJ Campbell start at Kansas.

 

[LonghornMM]

I think we badly need to win out and get to 8-4 to try and sway some of these recruits that are on the fence. Who knows, maybe this week is the week the lightbulb flips on for Quinn. But if he struggles again the last thing I want to do is lose to Kansas again. Just find a way to win.

I'm concerned about where we're at with landing some of the elite recruits who were at the TCU game on Saturday night. The stage was set. College Gameday. Huge buildup. National TV audience. Sellout crowd. Playing the #4 ranked and undefeated team in the country at DKR. Then Texas proceeds to lay an egg. Again. Not a good look if you're trying to lure top-level kids to the program.

 

[weevilcatch]

I'm concerned about where we're at with landing some of the elite recruits who were at the TCU game on Saturday night. The stage was set. College Gameday. Huge buildup. National TV audience. Sellout crowd. Playing the #4 ranked and undefeated team in the country at DKR. Then Texas proceeds to lay an egg. Again. Not a good look if you're trying to lure top-level kids to the program.

I'm sure it was a turn off for some guys. But honestly, if that ONE game was going to be the difference in a yes or no, then you probably don't want those guys.

Savion Red was a last minute 3* kid. And every time he has played he has balled. He could be a Quan Cosby type player for us. Every class needs some chip on their shoulder late bloomers with something to prove a la Earl Thomas

 

[LonghornMM]

I'm sure it was a turn off for some guys. But honestly, if that ONE game was going to be the difference in a yes or no, then you probably don't want those guys.

Savion Red was a last minute 3* kid. And every time he has played he has balled. He could be a Quan Cosby type player for us. Every class needs some chip on their shoulder late bloomers with something to prove.

Disagree. Many times this is the recruits first and only visit to campus, and that impression, and especially the game, is very, very important. Winning or losing a big game while hosting a recruiting does matter to these kids and it definitely affects their decision.

 

[weevilcatch]

Disagree. Many times this is the recruits first and only visit to campus, and that impression, and especially the game, is very, very important. Winning or losing a big game while hosting a recruiting does matter to these kids and it definitely affects their decision.

Well I guess we will agree to disagree then. Many of those kids have been to campus several times, have been in touch with coaches for months, have seen Texas games on TV, etc.

If it is a one time throw all our money on black and pray for the best, I don't want those kind of kids. They'll transfer any way at the first sign of adversity.

 

[LonghornMM]

Well I guess we will agree to disagree then. Many of those kids have been to campus several times, have been in touch with coaches for months, have seen Texas games on TV, etc.

If it is a one time throw all our money on black and pray for the best, I don't want those kind of kids. They'll transfer any way at the first sign of adversity.

You're not wrong on all of that. However, I think that you're discounting how important the game experience is for these kids. It's huge. It does affect part of their decision making. Laying an egg like Texas did does not help in landing kids when they're being courted by other big-time programs that are winning and trending up. Texas isn't showing that this year. I hope that Sark and Co can reel in a top-five class. This past weekend's list of recruits who were at the game was off the charts. I just hope that we didn't fall out of favor with some of them with the embarrassing showing against TCU.

 

[weevilcatch]

You're not wrong on all of that. However, I think that you're discounting how important the game experience is for these kids. It's huge. It does affect part of their decision making. Laying an egg like Texas did does not help in landing kids when they're being courted by other big-time programs that are winning and trending up. Texas isn't showing that this year. I hope that Sark and Co can reel in a top-five class. This past weekend's list of recruits who were at the game was off the charts. I just hope that we didn't fall out of favor with some of them with the lousy showing against TCU.

Of course they want to play for a winning team and a team that will help them get to the NFL. Those are two things Texas has sucked at for a while. The TCU win would've helped for sure.

Laying an egg certainly didn't help, that is for sure. All I'm saying is, if that is the only thing a kid is basing his decision off of, or that loss made him flip 180 degrees, then they're not stable enough to trust any way and we'd be better off.

I think finishing 6-6 will be much worse than the singular loss to the #4 team. I think if Texas finishes 8-4 that will alleviate some of the affects of the TCU loss. If Texas can get their head out of their ass and beat two teams they should beat, get some help from WVU/Kansas (beat KState) and OU (beat oSu) and get into that Big 12 Champ game I think we beat TCU. That will most certainly help.

But honestly, I just hope we go 7-5, have a top 10 class while continuing to beef up the OL and DL. Next year improve by 2 wins again and have another top 10 class while continuing to beef up the OL and DL. At that point, we will know if Sark can get over the hump or not...and if not, the program will be in much better shape that it was when Sark took over for Strong and Clown Shoes

 

[2300 Nueces]

Card is going to transfer. At this point, we need Quinn to finish and gain experience. Card may be the better option for W's but ultimately we have to run the ball. The inexperienced linemen are hurting us. Short term Card but long term Quinn.

 

[hookem777]

Everyone keeps saying Ewers has one year left. That was the case if he came out and Trevor Lawrenced it up. He hasn't..there is a VERY realistic chance Ewers improves and becomes that talent but he could also stay longer than ppl thought. And Arch comes in as a red shirt sophomore when he starts. The Mannings have already talked about how there is no rush to play now. They want him successful

Let the cake bake.

 

[westx]

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You're right . Absolutely cannot lose to Kansas again

Jalen Daniel may be back from his injury just in time for Texas, no less

 

[Hoookem722]

The topic of this discussion is Hudson Card. So yes, I’m commenting on it.
Card may not be the quarterback that he was projected to be, will never know, but I can say that we would’ve won OK state and tech with him at QB. All we would have needed was average QB play. Card did not look great last year, but he didn’t look pathetic either. How much time will you need for Ewers, he only has one year left.
I hope Ewers can improve quickly because coach isn’t gonna try anything else. If his name wasn’t Ewers, you would say the same.

Card played every snap of the Tech game and we lost lol

 

[sgbhorns]

Card played every snap of the Tech game and we lost lol

Yea I know, screwed the pouch on that one. He went 20/30.

 

[RoboCocks21]

Jalen Daniel may be back from his injury just in time for Texas, no less

Sending bad juju to Kansas

 

[hookem777]

Yea I know, screwed the pouch on that one. He went 20/30.

20/30 and most the plays were quick passes and throwing to RB's out of the backfield...ALLL THE PLAYS QUINN ISNT GETTING.

i honestly feel horrible for this kid..he is getting ROASTED on social medias. ALL because everyone said " omg hes ganna be a 1st pick in the NFL draft and omg he's the second coming of Jesus. Just like you cant fire a coach in YEAR 2 of his regime when hes already shown improvement by making us bowl eligible and we still have 2 winnable games left, YOU CANT give up on freshman QB with talent because ..well..hes playing like a Freshman...now i hear you...OTHER TEAMS HAVE DONE IT WITH FRESHMAN!! Other teams..BAMA...Ohio State..Clemson... oh you mean teams with established Cultures? Established systems? REAL SPRING GAMES?...VETERAN PLAYERS TO HELP HIM BECOME SUCCESSFUL? Ya we dont have that..Quinn was basically told as a 19 year old kid who hasn't played in 2 years " hey go bring back a blue chip program from a 12 year grave site.." That's not fair. For us realistic fans, and more importantly Quinn. Winning is what we all want but we will never get it if this is how we treat our future talent. Quinn has talent, he is RAW. People like RG3 going on twitter and roasting this 19 year old make me sick. He is a kid. You think he doesn't want to win more than we do? gtfo.

My dudes...im a alumni and huge Texas football fan..so much 3 years ago i posted on here about being done..i couldn't do it anymore. And i have learned to watch the game now and not let it dictate my weekend BUT im still a huge fan..This year has had some stings...we should have won at least 2 of our losses...HOWEVER..i still feel much better today vs i did this time last year...that's something to think on.

I said this year 8-4 is major growth.. and ALOT of people on this board said 7-5 was their prediction..

the season has been wild...

come back to earth, and cheer Quinn to grow and get better because he isn't going anywhere, Sark has made this clear.


Hook'em

 

[sgbhorns]

20/30 and most the plays were quick passes and throwing to RB's out of the backfield...ALLL THE PLAYS QUINN ISNT GETTING.

i honestly feel horrible for this kid..he is getting ROASTED on social medias. ALL because everyone said " omg hes ganna be a 1st pick in the NFL draft and omg he's the second coming of Jesus. Just like you cant fire a coach in YEAR 2 of his regime when hes already shown improvement by making us bowl eligible and we still have 2 winnable games left, YOU CANT give up on freshman QB with talent because ..well..hes playing like a Freshman...now i hear you...OTHER TEAMS HAVE DONE IT WITH FRESHMAN!! Other teams..BAMA...Ohio State..Clemson... oh you mean teams with established Cultures? Established systems? REAL SPRING GAMES?...VETERAN PLAYERS TO HELP HIM BECOME SUCCESSFUL? Ya we dont have that..Quinn was basically told as a 19 year old kid who hasn't played in 2 years " hey go bring back a blue chip program from a 12 year grave site.." That's not fair. For us realistic fans, and more importantly Quinn. Winning is what we all want but we will never get it if this is how we treat our future talent. Quinn has talent, he is RAW. People like RG3 going on twitter and roasting this 19 year old make me sick. He is a kid. You think he doesn't want to win more than we do? gtfo.

My dudes...im a alumni and huge Texas football fan..so much 3 years ago i posted on here about being done..i couldn't do it anymore. And i have learned to watch the game now and not let it dictate my weekend BUT im still a huge fan..This year has had some stings...we should have won at least 2 of our losses...HOWEVER..i still feel much better today vs i did this time last year...that's something to think on.

I said this year 8-4 is major growth.. and ALOT of people on this board said 7-5 was their prediction..

the season has been wild...

come back to earth, and cheer Quinn to grow and get better because he isn't going anywhere, Sark has made this clear.


Hook'em

Great points but a lot of the controversy in critique is due to he was man enough to take the million dollars to leave high school early instead of developing then pitted Texas Tech against UT to get more money. I feel bad for him as well. He should have stayed his senior year and redshirt this year. But wanted to get to the NFL asap I guess.

 

[Tired Horn]

I think there's something else in the mix. The dude played lights out minus a couple of freshman reads then for some reason he forgot how to throw? It doesn't pass the smell test.

I don't think the shoulder injury is entirely it because he was able to whip the ball after the injury return. Another hand injury maybe? Why would his last 3 games look so bad? Our WRs didn't help much with the untimely dropped balls either. There's something we don't know.

Sports Radio 790 Matt Thomas speculated as much on today's show. Some sort of injury. If you remember Sam did a lot of dumb things his freshman year.

 

[hookem777]

Great points but a lot of the controversy in critique is due to he was man enough to take the million dollars to leave high school early instead of developing then pitted Texas Tech against UT to get more money. I feel bad for him as well. He should have stayed his senior year and redshirt this year. But wanted to get to the NFL asap I guess.

are you shitting me? would you ..a 17 year old kid..offered 1 MILLION DOLLARS..after your dream team coach just shit on you behind you back ( herman) not take it?..common man get real.

 

[hookem777]

Great points but a lot of the controversy in critique is due to he was man enough to take the million dollars to leave high school early instead of developing then pitted Texas Tech against UT to get more money. I feel bad for him as well. He should have stayed his senior year and redshirt this year. But wanted to get to the NFL asap I guess.

Also rumor is his mom had a lot of say in him taking that money or not...as a 17 year old ..im listening to my mother.

let the kid grow... we came into this season saying 8-4 , 7-5..now all a sudden he plays great against bama and ppl are saying 10-1 OR BUST..like come the f on. yes we should have won some games but that isnt all on Quinn. Put the kid in a position to succeed . We havent done that.

 

[RoboCocks21]

20/30 and most the plays were quick passes and throwing to RB's out of the backfield...ALLL THE PLAYS QUINN ISNT GETTING.

i honestly feel horrible for this kid..he is getting ROASTED on social medias. ALL because everyone said " omg hes ganna be a 1st pick in the NFL draft and omg he's the second coming of Jesus. Just like you cant fire a coach in YEAR 2 of his regime when hes already shown improvement by making us bowl eligible and we still have 2 winnable games left, YOU CANT give up on freshman QB with talent because ..well..hes playing like a Freshman...now i hear you...OTHER TEAMS HAVE DONE IT WITH FRESHMAN!! Other teams..BAMA...Ohio State..Clemson... oh you mean teams with established Cultures? Established systems? REAL SPRING GAMES?...VETERAN PLAYERS TO HELP HIM BECOME SUCCESSFUL? Ya we dont have that..Quinn was basically told as a 19 year old kid who hasn't played in 2 years " hey go bring back a blue chip program from a 12 year grave site.." That's not fair. For us realistic fans, and more importantly Quinn. Winning is what we all want but we will never get it if this is how we treat our future talent. Quinn has talent, he is RAW. People like RG3 going on twitter and roasting this 19 year old make me sick. He is a kid. You think he doesn't want to win more than we do? gtfo.

My dudes...im a alumni and huge Texas football fan..so much 3 years ago i posted on here about being done..i couldn't do it anymore. And i have learned to watch the game now and not let it dictate my weekend BUT im still a huge fan..This year has had some stings...we should have won at least 2 of our losses...HOWEVER..i still feel much better today vs i did this time last year...that's something to think on.

I said this year 8-4 is major growth.. and ALOT of people on this board said 7-5 was their prediction..

the season has been wild...

come back to earth, and cheer Quinn to grow and get better because he isn't going anywhere, Sark has made this clear.


Hook'em

Blowu has done it as well

 

[hookem777]

Blowu has done it as well

again under riley where multiple winning qbs have come out of that program..Heisman winners...ALOT DIFFERENT than what Texas has done...so thanks for making my point

 

[2300 Nueces]

Ewers has a problem. He assumes that he will be the overall #1 draftee in 2024. He has limited time imo. He has just one year to get where he wants to be. He has Arch coming at him on Jan. 1. While he wants to redshirt, his work ethic and football iq are going to be off the chart. He may pass Ewers and then we have a Spencer rattler situation on our hands.

 

[hookem777]

Ewers has a problem. He assumes that he will be the overall #1 draftee in 2024. He has limited time imo. He has just one year to get where he wants to be. He has Arch coming at him on Jan. 1. While he wants to redshirt, his work ethic and football iq are going to be off the chart. He may pass Ewers and then we have a Spencer rattler situation on our hands.

yall ganna do the same thing to Arch ...he has a bad fish year and its GET HIM THE F OUT...

chill out

 

[hookem777]

How many years did we give Vince to be elite? How many years did we give colt? How many years did we give Sam

Kids played in 5 1/2 games and y'all calling for his head because you bought into the medias hype