I Hope it’s Chris Ash

Nah. The whole schedule outside of OU and ISU was meh at best.
I’m not anti Ash at all but some are acting like he had the 85 Bears out there this past season.
Happy Belated New Year by the way! 🤘
It really doesn't matter if the schedule was "meh". You said the team only improved as the season wore on because they played the easier half. But, that's not the case. Also, they held all but 2 opponents at or below their season average. It doesn't matter if those teams were "meh" or not. If you played K-state, you played K-state. So, for Texas to hold most of the teams they played this season at or near their lowest point total of the year is good, irrespective of how good that team was. It wasn't like some teams played a 10-0 WVU, but Texas lucked out and got 6-4 WVU instead.
 
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I dont know about all the angst and emotion...Chris Ash seems like a pretty good option. No one is syaing he is the best ever. Saw improvement and think he might be pretty good next year.
 
Keeping Ash makes a ton of sense if you're into logic and reason, instead of knee-jerk reactions. Here's my reasoning:

(1) Wisconsin has won 3 outright Big Ten Championships in the last 50 years: 1999, 2011, 2012. Ash was their DC for two of those.

(2) Ash won a National Championship as Ohio State's DC.

(3) Urban Meyer, who is credited as inventing the RPO that is all the rage today, calls Ash "the best defensive coordinator in college football". And mind you, Urban has employed possibly the best combination of DCs in the last 20 years: Chris Ash, Greg Schiano, Luke Fickell, Alex Grinch (current OU DC), Greg Mattison (current tOSU DC), Charlie Strong, Tim Beckman, and Everett Withers. Only Saban can claim as strong of a lineup. Yet out of all of those guys, he calls Ash "the best in college football". He's said it from the first day he was hired at Texas. He didn't have to. He could have called him "one of the best". But, he didn't mince words.

(4) Texas was robbed of approximately 1,500 spring and summer reps, which unquestionably hindered not only the rollout of the new defensive scheme, but resulted in the defense entering the season needing a ton of in-season reps to get comfortable.

(5) The Texas defense started off horrible. But, once they caught up on the reps they were deprived of in preseason, they started to turn in better and better performances, holding 4 of the final 6 opponents below their season scoring average, and allowing 2 just a few points more than their season scoring average.

(6) Even with starting the season lacking comfort in the new defense, and ranking VERY poorly through the first 4 games, they played well enough down the stretch to deliver some pretty good good defensive metrics:

2020 Texas Defensive Rankings (out of 127 teams)
15th -- Points Allowed per Drive Starting at Opp 0-20 Y/L
28th -- 3rd Down Conversion %
29th -- Yards per Play
30th -- Yards per Rush
32nd -- Busted Drive Rate (% of drives that earn 0 or negative yards)
35th -- Yards per Pass Attempt
40th -- Punts per Play (how frequently punts are forced)
40th -- DFEI (defensive football efficiency index)
41st -- Expected Points Added (points added/lost by the D)
41st -- Punts Forced to TDs/FGs Given Up
41st -- Points Allowed per Play
49th -- Points Allowed per Drive

Nothing was omitted for the sake of making the D appear better than it really was.

(7) Continuity matters. Familiarity matters. Comfort in a scheme matters. All of those affect the win/loss column, especially in the early going of a season. That's why Saban was 7-6 his first season at Alabama and 8-4 his first season at LSU, they blew up the 2nd year at both. It takes time to get your players comfortable in what they need to do on the field. If Sark fires Ash, then the defense will go into the off season needing to learn their 3rd scheme under their 3rd DC in 3 years. You think that's going to help the win/loss column in year 1?

(8) The 2021 recruiting class is already a disaster. And, Sark's results at UW and USC unquestionably will be used against him in recruiting. If he fails to deliver a 10+ win season in year 1, it will be a confirmation of his prior HC results in the minds of recruits. Texas can't afford a second down recruiting class, because those are the guys Sark will need to deliver results in years 3 and 4. The only way to sign a great 2022 class is if the win column justifies those recruits spurning Alabama, LSU, Ohio State, OU, A&M, et al.

(9) Covid isn't over. And, we won't have herd immunity until summer at the earliest. That means, it's very likely we either don't get a spring season or the spring season is heavily modified to limit spread. Either way, it makes no sense to roll out a brand new defensive scheme when once again, players will likely be deprived of vital reps, especially when Sark/Texas needs a strong first season.

(10) The known options for replacing Ash are either a DC who's coordinated a whopping 13 games vs P5 teams in his life or a DC that has struggled shutting down teams with Alabama-level talent + input from Saban.

Great post, I agree 100%. You captured everything I was thinking but was too lazy to research or write. The defense showed significant improvement the last half of the season as he and the players got more reps. If the DC candidates are Ash, Golding or Arnett, I would rank them in that order.
 
There's nothing cherry picked about citing year-end stats. On the year, despite a rough start, Ash's defense put up good numbers. Not great. But, "great" went out the door when 100% spring football was canceled and 80% of fall camp was canceled.

Also......dude.........what are you talking about??? K-State is one of the 3 whole teams this season that scored above their season average vs Texas. You think giving up 31 to K-State was "shutting them down", but holding #10 Iowa State to 23 was "failing to shut them down"?

Points Texas D Held Above/Below Season 4 Quarters Average (in game order)
-21 -- UTEP​
+28 -- Texas Tech​
0 -- TCU​
-10 -- Oklahoma​
-7 -- Baylor​
+3 -- Oklahoma State​
-10 -- West Virginia​
-10 -- Iowa State​
+4 -- Kansas State​
-4 -- Colorado​

Please tell me how I cherry picked the stats above, which show that the defense performed considerably better as they got reps in the system Ash installed.

Remember how Alabama gave up 48 to 5-5 Ole Miss in the 3rd game of the season? They're trash as a result too, right? Or is it only when Texas gives up 6 points more to 4-6 Tech in the 2nd game of the season after installing a new defense with almost no off season to gain reps?

Also........#6 OU, this year's Big 12 Champion, is worse than the 2014 (8-5), 2009 (8-5) and 2005 (8-4) teams..........all of which finished unranked and without a Big 12 Championship? Really? Because of a 7-point loss to #10 Iowa State in the 3rd game of the season and a 3-point loss to Kansas State in the 2nd game? LOL.

You knee-jerk, speak from emotion, reactionists make it too easy for me. Give me a TL;DR (or ignore my post) so I know you've raised the white flag and surrendered.

lmao get triggered. "Give me a TL;DR (or ignore my post) so I know you've raised the white flag and surrendered." what a douche bag. This must be Chris Ash handle
 
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We should hire the DC who has won:
1 National Championship
6.5 Conference Championships in a Power 5 Conference.





Give you a hint its Mike Stoops no one wants that dude. Past stats don't necessarily equate to future performance.

Impossible, this board insist that Chris Ash is the best DC in the F'n country because the Defense slightly improved the final 4 games in the season. One season of success does not determine value, see Tom Herman 2018.
 
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defensive stats under Chris ash:
Total defense - 64th nationally
Passing yards allowed per game - 108th nationally @ 266 per game
Rushing yards per game - 38th nationally @ 140 per game
Points per game allowed - 63rd nationally @ 28 per game

why are we acting like Chris ash is the countries best DC?
FEI is the barometer
 
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Impossible, this board insist that Chris Ash is the best DC in the F'n country because the Defense slightly improved the final 4 games in the season. One season of success does not determine value, see Tom Herman 2018.


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He's under contract. He can only leave if fired.
That’s not accurate. He can breach/terminate the contract. Texas would never take legal action to enforce the contract and force itself to pay him. Ash is a free agent if he so desires.
 
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So much pearl clutching. Ash isn't guaranteed to have this defense playing well next season. Our defense ranked in the 60s for heavens sake.
I can't decide if it is battered fan syndrome or if all fanbases are as dumb as ours or if our fan base has the market on stupidity cornered, but it is amazing how many on here are willing to make definitive proclamations on the future of sark based on the hiring or not hiring of one assistant coach (and in some cases a coach whose name they did not even know until a few days ago). I bet a lot of the people on this board never even watched an entire miss st or Cincinnati game this year, yet they can spend 10 minutes perusing the internet and now they are experts.
 
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This FEI thing is a little confusing. How in the heck does the 27th and 38th teams end up playing for the Championship?

Oh yeah, like Saban said at the very least the defense is secondary in this day and age.

Another reason if we keep Ash great. If we get the Alabama coach, OK. Arnett? Sure why not.

Let’s start with great recruiting and develop the talent we have and will have.
 
We can has the Northwestern DC?

Arnett is ranked right about where Ash is with what I would assume is less on paper talent. Held 8 of 10 opponents below season average and the other 2 to their season average (removed defensive scores by other team).
Not too shabby of a start.
i think arnett had more to work with, i just think arnett and ash are the same. Why hire a guy that does the same exact thing when we have a guy on the payroll already. that is my point.
 
I think the Ash defence DID get better as the season wore on, although I still have concerns that he ignored running QBs when we have HS coaches that could stop that.

Still, let's face it folks: it would be a bit unusual for a new HC to keep the previous DC. I know it's happened before, but most of the time the new guy brings in a new DC.

Of course, we're about to find out awful soon.
 
That’s not accurate. He can breach/terminate the contract. Texas would never take legal action to enforce the contract and force itself to pay him. Ash is a free agent if he so desires.
Yeah, I supposed Texas could tear up his contract and allow him to leave if that's what he wanted. I've never seen a school not enforce a buyout before though (not that I'm aware of everything that goes on in CFB).
 
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