Yeah, right. I think your sample rate is highly questionable.
Ash got them playing well towards the end of the season with no offseason prep.
And he sucks so badly he’s the first guy Meyer is calling to be there wherever he lands.
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Ash got them playing well towards the end of the season with no offseason prep.
And he sucks so badly he’s the first guy Meyer is calling to be there wherever he lands.
This coaching change has done wonders for Ash’s status around here. I like Ash, but some on here act like he’s some sort of legend. Our defense was improved from last year, but far from a good unit.
The guy had no spring and very very little fall camp to install a new system and if you didn’t see player development on defense all over the field in the last few games of the season we were watching different games
If it were Ash you’d know it by now and Terry Joseph wouldn’t be on the staff.
Whether I am here or not, we're still going to get a shitty DC if it's not Quinn.
I mean, Urban should be done in Jacksonville by that points so may work perfect.
Please give us a break down of the schemes of the various candidates being considered and give details why those schemes will not work?
You have no idea of that whatsoever.
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Urban, you need to make sure he gets a job at your other protege's schools in Florida and Cincinnati.
Also, let's not forget that Herman never coached with Tim Beck. Beck got the job based on Urban's recommendation to Herman.
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I agree. He made very good progress this year in shit circumstances.
Add how many points Tech and OU dropped on him and hes the same as every DC since Will Muschamp pretty much lmao
Love how the part about Chris Ash being able to shut down teams at Texas, such as trash ass Tech and the worst OU team in 20 years were skipped (both almost droppped 60 on his ass). Cherry picked stats. Chris Ash's D failed to shut down inferior talent for almost every team not named KSU or Colorado.
Just reading that should make orangefans feel like idiots.
I have my doubts too but you have to know that this the big rodeo for Sark so why would he hire someone equal to the task?
He is my choice for anyone not named Quinn.
But his record at Whisky when big10 offenses looked like something from the 1930’s does not sway me.
It is great that he won big at OH St...just like Herman did.
His defense was less than stellar at Rutgers.
The first half of this year was not good at all. However we had just changed defenses AGAIN with no spring ball. I think progress was made.
Having said all that, I am not prepared to die on this hill. If losing Ash for “GoldMember” or “Arny” and it enables us to hire position coaches who recruit at very high levels, I will live with it.
If we keep Ash, did Sark say I am getting recruiters who also coach for my position coaches and you can deal with it. If Ash stays, he will have not made a single position coach hire. I am sure it has happened before but I can’t remember it.
But his record at Whisky when big10 offenses looked like something from the 1930’s does not sway me.
It is great that he won big at OH St...just like Herman did.
His defense was less than stellar at Rutgers.
The first half of this year was not good at all. However we had just changed defenses AGAIN with no spring ball. I think progress was made.
Having said all that, I am not prepared to die on this hill. If losing Ash for “GoldMember” or “Arny” and it enables us to hire position coaches who recruit at very high levels, I will live with it.
If we keep Ash, did Sark say I am getting recruiters who also coach for my position coaches and you can deal with it. If Ash stays, he will have not made a single position coach hire. I am sure it has happened before but I can’t remember it.
There's nothing cherry picked about citing year-end stats. On the year, despite a rough start, Ash's defense put up good numbers. Not great. But, "great" went out the door when 100% spring football was canceled and 80% of fall camp was canceled.
Also......dude.........what are you talking about??? K-State is one of the 3 whole teams this season that scored above their season average vs Texas. You think giving up 31 to K-State was "shutting them down", but holding #10 Iowa State to 23 was "failing to shut them down"?
Points Texas D Held Above/Below Season 4 Quarters Average (in game order)
-21 -- UTEP
+28 -- Texas Tech
0 -- TCU
-10 -- Oklahoma
-7 -- Baylor
+3 -- Oklahoma State
-10 -- West Virginia
-10 -- Iowa State
+4 -- Kansas State
-4 -- Colorado
Please tell me how I cherry picked the stats above, which show that the defense performed considerably better as they got reps in the system Ash installed.
Remember how Alabama gave up 48 to 5-5 Ole Miss in the 3rd game of the season? They're trash as a result too, right? Or is it only when Texas gives up 6 points more to 4-6 Tech in the 2nd game of the season after installing a new defense with almost no off season to gain reps?
Also........#6 OU, this year's Big 12 Champion, is worse than the 2014 (8-5), 2009 (8-5) and 2005 (8-4) teams..........all of which finished unranked and without a Big 12 Championship? Really? Because of a 7-point loss to #10 Iowa State in the 3rd game of the season and a 3-point loss to Kansas State in the 2nd game? LOL.
You knee-jerk, speak from emotion, reactionists make it too easy for me. Give me a TL;DR (or ignore my post) so I know you've raised the white flag and surrendered.
It’s looking like Golding and that is a very good hire. Sark is a top 5 college football offensive mind, and I bet he has a pretty good handle on how good Pete Golding is.
They didn’t make the playoffs last season. This is their first together . Every new coordinator takes Bama to the playoffs.
Quinn isn’t going to pass up nfl jobs and the rest of your statement isn’t true either
Weaker part???
3-5 UTEP
4-6 Texas Tech
6-4 TCU
9-2 Oklahoma (#6)
2-7 Baylor
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8-3 Oklahoma State (#21)
6-4 West Virginia
9-3 Iowa State (#10)
4-6 Kansas State
4-2 Colorado
Blue = bowl teams
Red = Top 25 teams
Can you help me identify the point in the schedule when it transitioned from the stronger part to the weaker part? I see all those sub-.500 teams in the first half, then all the bowl & Top 25 teams in the second half, but I'm having trouble finding the point at which the hard part of the schedule ended and the "weaker part" started.
CU was a scrub and you know it. 🤪 The legend of Ash on OB is entertainingWeaker part???
3-5 UTEP
4-6 Texas Tech
6-4 TCU
9-2 Oklahoma (#6)
2-7 Baylor
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8-3 Oklahoma State (#21)
6-4 West Virginia
9-3 Iowa State (#10)
4-6 Kansas State
4-2 Colorado
Blue = bowl teams
Red = Top 25 teams
Can you help me identify the point in the schedule when it transitioned from the stronger part to the weaker part? I see all those sub-.500 teams in the first half, then all the bowl & Top 25 teams in the second half, but I'm having trouble finding the point at which the hard part of the schedule ended and the "weaker part" started.
Nah. The whole schedule outside of OU and ISU was meh at best.
I’m not anti Ash at all but some are acting like he had the 85 Bears out there this past season.
Happy Belated New Year by the way! 🤘
No body should want to get in an argument with Iceman. He's got too many legitimate stats to back up his correct conclusions. Only issue is that I don't think Sark is paying attention to him, or much of anyone else here. And all things considered, while I might not agree with all he's doing (does anyone ever?), I feel very good about the overall staff he will wind up with.
But the retraining of the defense is a legitimate concern.
But the retraining of the defense is a legitimate concern.
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