Joe Mixon Video Released
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I read the comments on a Joe Mixon article on ESPN. 90% of the comments are in defense of Mixon, and not all OU people. So much trash in this world. We need more fathers, young men being raised by wolves.
In Oklahoma it looks like Aggravated Assault is the felony variety. A person can be charged with Aggravated Assault if they cause great bodily injury. They list 5 things that are considered great bodily injury. #1 on that list is a bone fracture.
I was going to make this comment. The lack of balls people have today is upsetting. They'd rather watch or video tape something than save a life or take down a POS like Mixon. I know some of it is due to shock but no one even chased after him.
After watching that video 5 times I get even more upset watching at least two guys the same size as Mixon just do nothing. One even wearing a UFC hat! Oh if only Roger Huerta was there to blast him with a few punches!
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“He’s still going to Oklahoma. We were working in conjunction with Oklahoma with these negotiations to make sure they would be comfortable with him going to the university and participating in the program.”
Michael Cristalli (May 5th, 2009)
Who is Michael Cristalli, you might be asking?
Well, he was the lawyer for former Oklahoma player Justin Chaisson back in 2009 in a case that involved Chaisson being charged with (among other things) assault with a deadly weapon, false imprisonment and battery with domestic violence.According to the Las Vegas Sun, these were the details from the police report:
“According to a police report, on March 17, Chaisson forced his 17-year-old ex-girlfriend into the back seat of his sport utility vehicle in a coffee shop parking lot.
The victim told police Chaisson punched her in the ribs and drove her into the desert where he pulled her from the car. She said he then put a screwdriver to her neck and threatened to kill her until two of her friends pulled up on the scene and he forced her into his car again.
According to the police report, the incident ended when one of the two friends called 911 and Chaisson told his ex-girlfriend to exit his vehicle at a storage facility.
The attack on his girlfriend occurred on March 17th, 2009.Forty-nine days later, with the help of Oklahoma University, according to his lawyer, he pleaded no contest to four gross misdemeanors, instead of the felony charges initially brought against him.
Five weeks later, he was able to enroll at Oklahoma.
Much has been made over the weekend about the handling of current Oklahoma running back Joe Mixon, but for those that have questions about Bob Stoops’ decision-making and handling of the situation, you need to know something … this is who he is. Stoops is an enabler and protector of young men who commit violent crimes and actions, usually against young women.
Stoops is the guy who protected standout defensive tackle Dusty Dvoracek after he put a friend of his into the hospital following a bar fight.According to the Daily Oklahoman, it was not the first allegation of violent behavior for Dvoracek. Or the second. Yet, not only did Stoops stand by his guy, he worked to get him a medical redshirt and named him one of the captains of the team the following season.
Stoops is the guy who was willing to let former linebacker Franklin Shannon return after being suspended for a season after the school investigated a sexual assault charge through a Title IX investigation. The alleged victim did not press charges, butthe Daily Oklahoman reportedthat the investigation turned up such damaging evidence against Shannon that the investigation panel voted for Shannon to be expelled, only to have OU’s vice president for student affairs lower the punishment because he thought it was too severe. Of course, Shannon was back on the field as soon as Stoops could get him there.
Stoops is the guy who wanted to give shelter to former five-star wide receiver Dorial Green-Beckham after Missouri booted him from the program following an incident involving his girlfriend,which reportedly included him allegedly two-hand shoving her down a flight of stairs. Charges weren’t pressed, but only because the victim refused to press charges in an effort to protect Green-Beckham’s pro career. Text messages from his girlfriend’s phone reported that Green-Beckham “dragged her from the apartment by the neck”
Stoops is the guy whotold us this week that he knew nothingabout star wide receiver Dede Westbook’s two domestic abuse arrests prior to enrolling at Oklahoma, while telling everyone in the same breath that the OU background checks are as good as it gets.
Yes, Stoops is also the guy who saw the video of Mixon breaking a woman’s face and thought that a redshirt year was the kind of punishment that was appropriate for the action.
This is Bob Stoops, a defender, protector and enabler of violent, dangerous men, who often abuse women without remorse, whether they might have kidnapped, raped, punched or shoved a woman down the flight of stairs.
This is also who Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione is, as he’s been there backing Stoops every step of the way since day one. Same with OU president David Boren.
This is who they are.
This is not my opinion. This is their record. It’s there for everyone to see it, if they want to. There’s no need to even speculate on what else might have happened that we’re not aware of (see Dede Westbrook) because, well, how many examples do you need?
Stoops might not be Art Briles, Castiglione might not be Ian McCaw and Boren might not be Ken Starr , but collectively they would appear to place the same exact value on a woman’s safety.
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Michael Cristalli (May 5th, 2009)
Who is Michael Cristalli, you might be asking?
Well, he was the lawyer for former Oklahoma player Justin Chaisson back in 2009 in a case that involved Chaisson being charged with (among other things) assault with a deadly weapon, false imprisonment and battery with domestic violence.According to the Las Vegas Sun, these were the details from the police report:
“According to a police report, on March 17, Chaisson forced his 17-year-old ex-girlfriend into the back seat of his sport utility vehicle in a coffee shop parking lot.
The victim told police Chaisson punched her in the ribs and drove her into the desert where he pulled her from the car. She said he then put a screwdriver to her neck and threatened to kill her until two of her friends pulled up on the scene and he forced her into his car again.
According to the police report, the incident ended when one of the two friends called 911 and Chaisson told his ex-girlfriend to exit his vehicle at a storage facility.
The attack on his girlfriend occurred on March 17th, 2009.Forty-nine days later, with the help of Oklahoma University, according to his lawyer, he pleaded no contest to four gross misdemeanors, instead of the felony charges initially brought against him.
Five weeks later, he was able to enroll at Oklahoma.
Much has been made over the weekend about the handling of current Oklahoma running back Joe Mixon, but for those that have questions about Bob Stoops’ decision-making and handling of the situation, you need to know something … this is who he is. Stoops is an enabler and protector of young men who commit violent crimes and actions, usually against young women.
Stoops is the guy who protected standout defensive tackle Dusty Dvoracek after he put a friend of his into the hospital following a bar fight.According to the Daily Oklahoman, it was not the first allegation of violent behavior for Dvoracek. Or the second. Yet, not only did Stoops stand by his guy, he worked to get him a medical redshirt and named him one of the captains of the team the following season.
Stoops is the guy who was willing to let former linebacker Franklin Shannon return after being suspended for a season after the school investigated a sexual assault charge through a Title IX investigation. The alleged victim did not press charges, butthe Daily Oklahoman reportedthat the investigation turned up such damaging evidence against Shannon that the investigation panel voted for Shannon to be expelled, only to have OU’s vice president for student affairs lower the punishment because he thought it was too severe. Of course, Shannon was back on the field as soon as Stoops could get him there.
Stoops is the guy who wanted to give shelter to former five-star wide receiver Dorial Green-Beckham after Missouri booted him from the program following an incident involving his girlfriend,which reportedly included him allegedly two-hand shoving her down a flight of stairs. Charges weren’t pressed, but only because the victim refused to press charges in an effort to protect Green-Beckham’s pro career. Text messages from his girlfriend’s phone reported that Green-Beckham “dragged her from the apartment by the neck”
Stoops is the guy whotold us this week that he knew nothingabout star wide receiver Dede Westbook’s two domestic abuse arrests prior to enrolling at Oklahoma, while telling everyone in the same breath that the OU background checks are as good as it gets.
Yes, Stoops is also the guy who saw the video of Mixon breaking a woman’s face and thought that a redshirt year was the kind of punishment that was appropriate for the action.
This is Bob Stoops, a defender, protector and enabler of violent, dangerous men, who often abuse women without remorse, whether they might have kidnapped, raped, punched or shoved a woman down the flight of stairs.
This is also who Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione is, as he’s been there backing Stoops every step of the way since day one. Same with OU president David Boren.
This is who they are.
This is not my opinion. This is their record. It’s there for everyone to see it, if they want to. There’s no need to even speculate on what else might have happened that we’re not aware of (see Dede Westbrook) because, well, how many examples do you need?
Stoops might not be Art Briles, Castiglione might not be Ian McCaw and Boren might not be Ken Starr , but collectively they would appear to place the same exact value on a woman’s safety.
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OU fan- BUT BUT BUT it's the womans fault for well being a woman and not being able to take a punch!
What is the difference? 6 incidences instead of 17? How many more incidences do they get? When does Bob Ley show up in Norman?
Drip drip has begun...
Bob Stoops’ judgment no longer can be trusted after release of Joe Mixon video
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/oklahoma-bob-stoops-joe-mixon-video-121716
Bob Stoops should be fired immediately
http://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/on...-stoops-should-be-fired-immediately-15403625/
Bob Stoops’ judgment no longer can be trusted after release of Joe Mixon video
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/oklahoma-bob-stoops-joe-mixon-video-121716
Bob Stoops should be fired immediately
http://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/on...-stoops-should-be-fired-immediately-15403625/
I always assumed you guys were just being babies when running down OU. I never hated them. I reserved that hate for Texas, LSU, and Baylor. I hate Texas because they are Texas and I'm an Aggie. Hate LSU because I want to, and they always kick our asses. Hate Baylor because of their rape cover up.
Well now I hate OU because 90%+ of their fans are pro Mixon/Stoops and blame the women. Trash. If their fans would simply blame Mixon, I would just think Stoops was a POS. But I wouldn't hate OU. The fact that they are pro women beater is just so classless. Even Baylor fans were split on whether or not rape was a bigger deal than football. Many Baylor folks seemed sickened by what happened at their school.
Gonna suck to pull for Texas every year in the red river game. Game is ruined for me. Doubt I even watch. Thanks Bob.
Well now I hate OU because 90%+ of their fans are pro Mixon/Stoops and blame the women. Trash. If their fans would simply blame Mixon, I would just think Stoops was a POS. But I wouldn't hate OU. The fact that they are pro women beater is just so classless. Even Baylor fans were split on whether or not rape was a bigger deal than football. Many Baylor folks seemed sickened by what happened at their school.
Gonna suck to pull for Texas every year in the red river game. Game is ruined for me. Doubt I even watch. Thanks Bob.
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It's the systematic problem with that university's sports culture, since they first tasted success in the 1940s. They have always known that they could not compete nationally by playing fair like everyone else. If there is an athlete available that can contribute, it's going to be all hands on deck to keep him in the program.
Just heard on KREF (the local homeriffic joke of a radio station here in OK) that JM "has served his time and should be allowed to move on". Also that Castiglione, Stoops and Boren "acted quickly" when they saw the video. A caller just had the gumption to say that JM "made a mistake and deserves a second chance".
The guy destroyed a woman's face and is still breathing ....... sounds like a helluva second chance to me.
Here's the funny thing. I will bet that none of them would hire Mixon at their company if they knew before hand he broke a woman's jaw. Second chance my ass! It's ok because he doesn't work with them or around their wife or daughter. Some one needs to call up there and ask would you let him date your daughter knowing what you know now. You'd have to be a stupid father to say yes!
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What would you suggest his punishment be? Sounds like the only choice is to ban him from football. OU keeps him - Stoops is a POS. OU boots him, and he signs with another team, that coach is a POS. So, what should be done? ban him from football for life, or does he get a second chance?
And why has nobody even mentioned the real punishment, what you face in a court of law? Football punishment isnt real punishment, i mean its a game. Yet that's what people care most about. how a bout he gets convicted of a crime, pays a fine, serves time, does community service, goes to anger management meetings, has a record, public shaming, and knowing that every person who interviews him for a job in the future knows about this incident. For the rest of his life. To me, those punishments will hurt more than missing football. In 5 years few people will even utter his name, nobody will care about him anymore. But hes dealing with this, in the public eye, for the rest of his life. Deserving or not, it is what it is.
Why should it be different just because I'm close to her? thats silly, the punishment is the same whether its my family member or yours.
You think a red shirt and community service is punishment for breaking someone's jaw? Ok! To me that's not justice that's plain BS.
Let's say your daughter's boyfriend was helping you keep your job. He also beat her up, but it was her fault he beat her. Kid was really a victim of your daughter's nagging. And if she left him, he would just beat someone else's daughter - and you might lose your job.
Would you ask her to keep him around? Or would you prefer he be someone else's victim/abuser?
I agree with you from the standpoint that this situation makes the Norman Criminal Justice system look at best like a joke and at worst dirty.
Just curious, Do you think every 18 year old black man in Oklahoma that crushes a white girls face gets a second chance? I promise you they don't.
That's your logic. The first time you hit a woman is a "mistake" and should result in a suspended sentence. That's the appropriate legal response.
Rival fans don't care about justice. All they care about is football and how this kid could potentially help beat their team. Because if they cared about justice this wouldn't be about the coaching staff at OU. It would be about the legal system. And they know that this young lady broke the law way before this incident ever happened. But they on their moral high horse only discuss what matters a football player who plays for their most hated rival. And that OU player should rot in jail.
I call BS. I would feel the same way if it were a Texas player. IF it ever happens you will find that out. Many things are more important that a sports rivalry. The oklahoma justice system does suck......ou coaching staff does too....fans who think she did something bad so he gets to crush her skull are ignorant fools.
Nope, good thing that's not what happened. Suspension is not the same thing as redshirt. Just ask anyone who has been suspended from the team.
What would you suggest? He gets kicked off? Okay, so then what? he signs with another team, gets a redshirt year and actually gets to practice with his team and doesnt have any of the baggage he had at OU. Frankly I am surprised he didnt just leave OU and go play at ucla or something.
You'd be better off asking me if my daughter was molitor and mixon had done to her what he did to molitor. I'd have preferred he was gone. But i never once said i ever had a problem with mixon being gone. Kicking off the team would have been an appropriate punishment. I also think the punishment he received was also appropriate.
I agree with you from the standpoint that this situation makes the Norman Criminal Justice system look at best like a joke and at worst dirty.
Just curious, Do you think every 18 year old black man in Oklahoma that crushes a white girls face gets a second chance? I promise you they don't.
That's your logic. The first time you hit a woman is a "mistake" and should result in a suspended sentence. That's the appropriate legal response.
Of course they do, you think they just lock a kid up for the rest of his life for that? Nope, they serve their time and get another chance at life. Hell man, even murderers and violent rapists get second (and third) chances after doing their time.
The first time you get in almost any sort of trouble, you get a lighter punishment- that's how it goes almost everywhere you go, it always escalates if you had previous run ins with the law. The legal punishment mixon received is very common and covers a number of offenses. A friend of mine screwed around with an underage minor girl at a party and received the same exact charges. Another friend urinated in a park at 2 am, got the same charge as well. All were first time offenders who "Outraged the public decency" of the fine people of the state of Oklahoma. Oh and none of these incidents were in Norman, or in Cleveland county. What mixon did was inappropriate and offended decency and was thuswell charged.
It's interesting because nobody is really talking about the legal ramifications of his actions, just the punishment on the football field. They say his football punishment wasnt enough, zero mention of what he was charged with, im with you, that's what really matters. He was gonna play football regardless after this.
I promise you that in Texas and most other states, Statutory Rape, Assault, and Public Urination don't carry the same weight.
I don't care about what OU did to this kid. They are inherently biased. The fact that you think the actions in that video equates to a misdemeanor is unbelievable and tells me everything I need to know.
I can tell you that there isnt enough room in the jails,nor time in the day to fully prosecute first time offenders the way you seem to think they should. You almost always get a more lenient punishment for a first time offense. Even in texas.
I dont see anything wrong with that being a misdemeanor. If she had not gestured for him to walk up to her, if she hadnt pushed and slapped him first, maybe you might be on to something. But those other details leading up to the punch makes it a misdemeanor to me. Now if we are talking about an unprovoked punch, or a sucker punch, okay now we are talking about a more serious punishment. Glad my comment tells you everything you need to know! I hope it makes you feel good.
That is like saying he should have got the death penalty.....but......2 days in jail is cool too.
For the record, I think Joe Mixon deserved a 2nd chance to play football, but not at OU. He should have been kicked off the team permanently. He should have received a stronger message that what he did was wrong.
Also, as a graduate of the University of Oklahoma, I deserve to be represented by people who appropriately value the opportunity to attend that institution. That group of people would not include Mr. Mixon.
With that said, I would like to also say that what I saw on the video does not, in my opinion, make him a "monster". In my opinion, I don't think it's fair to consign him to the trash bin of humanity. At least not yet.
Let's hope that awareness of this incident helps prevent something similar from happening again, and let everyone in the Sooner Nation remember to always put their humanity above their school colors.
Also, as a graduate of the University of Oklahoma, I deserve to be represented by people who appropriately value the opportunity to attend that institution. That group of people would not include Mr. Mixon.
With that said, I would like to also say that what I saw on the video does not, in my opinion, make him a "monster". In my opinion, I don't think it's fair to consign him to the trash bin of humanity. At least not yet.
Let's hope that awareness of this incident helps prevent something similar from happening again, and let everyone in the Sooner Nation remember to always put their humanity above their school colors.
What about all of the other wife beaters Stoops has enabled mentioned in this thread? It's not like Mixon is an isolated case. And $ooner apologists have blamed the victim and argued for leniency for their football player in each and every case. It's disgusting.
So what exactly is the tipping point for kicking someone off your beloved football team? Does it take murder? Or can you rationalize that away too? Honest question.
It's very sad that you actually believe this. Believe it or not, Joe Mixon would turn our stomachs if we never played him just like Ray Rice did. Bob Stoops would turn our stomachs if he coached somewhere else just like JoePa did. Normal human beings are repulsed by sociopathic behavior whether it affects our football team or not.
Every situation is different. This was a one time incident that happened in seconds. Lets say he beat up his girlfriend, i think the domestic element is a tipping point. Multiple incidents, that too. Murder? Well, was it a texas fan?
Perhaps your issue lies with the ncaa who has no enforcement policies for situations like this; they just leave this stuff to the schools.
I disagree, I think both options were harsh punishments, and mixon took the more harsh one by staying at OU and living under Stoops' restrictions. He was going to play football again whether it was at OU or somewhere else.
You probably think that Glen Bell, Nigel Clay, and Bernard Hall's punishments were to severe.
Man I hope that none of you guys are ever put in a position that requires you assume responsibility for the safety of a woman.
One time incident. In Mixon's case, sure. I would submit a single instance of some behaviors is enough to get kicked off a team but...
On the other hand, Dede Westbrook was arrested twice for beating up the mother of his children. DGB had more than one incident at Mizzou. Dusty D had multiple drunken violent incidents. Chaisson was arrested on multiple felonies. Frank Shannon tried to rape someone. I guess that's a one time mistake too? Stoops had no problems with any of these scumbags.
It's a pattern of putting football over the safety of women. Just like at Baylor. It's a pattern of not giving a crap what kind of thugs Bob Stoops recruits and keeps. Yes, the NCAA is worthless but my disdain lies with the Joe Cs, Borens and Stoops of the world. They're disgusting human beings to me.
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