Damn LM2....nuked him before I even finished heating up my popcorn....
Kirk Herbstreet can eat a ....
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Damn LM2....nuked him before I even finished heating up my popcorn....
MM I swear to Christ I was about to email you and fvcking BEG you to give that a$$hat my home address or get his from him.
It's pieces of sh!t like THAT dude that we will have to deal with daily-- if we let charlie go. They don't care about FACTS, they care about feelings. We are going to get baited and trolled by national media over this McCombs thing for months now all because of herbstreet and the POS people at Disney.
McCombs HIRED John lucas to coach the spurs. McCombs hired danny green to coach the Vikings.
McCombs staked the future of the spurs on David Robinson whom he is like a father to-- they are THAT close.
This is the kind of meelymouth chicken sh!t mindset that we will have to deal with. People with ZERO football knowledge and actual experience excusing themselves INTO our conversations and then trying to press their bullsh!t narrative.
Look at how this a$$hat did his attack-- walked in here and said "comments like these gave herbstreet his ammo". This is a lie- no posts that had slander in them-- only 100% true posts. So I call him on his bullsh!t and he resorts to calling a grown a$$ man (me) a "kid". And not in a joshing way-- a demeaning way. Then after I shoot a warning shot across his bow- he feigns victimization and says "see, see! You threatened me! This is why charlie won't succeed here! Because you threatened me!".
Race baiter's playbook--
1. Make totally false accusations based on slanted and distorted information and inference.
2. When confronted, play the victim.
3. After a warning shot is fired your way, double down on the racism and bigotry but now use warning shot as an act of violence instead of what it actually was--- "a warning".
4. When race baiter is called out for being a race baiter, resort to insulting the intelligence of the people who just called you out on your BS.
5. Claim pure victimization and run away and post it on reddit/facebook/twitter.
The old way of dealing with these clowns was to ignore them. But if you do that now, you just look guilty and afraid to fight for what you know to be true. I know violence rarely solves anything-- but I'm of the mind set to just start showing up at these twitter tough guys house and just start knocking teeth out. Maybe a bit of humility will teach them that LIES have consequences.
I think he's wrong myself. I think they wanted him to succeed at UT for sure.
I agree with Corso on the way he handled the remaining Mack players. The one that really grabbed my attention was Freshmen with equal talent would start. I think experience is an asset.
I agree with Corso on the way he handled the remaining Mack players. The one that really grabbed my attention was Freshmen with equal talent would start. I think experience is an asset.
Not sure where herb got his info. National Media were the ones writing about his job. I think he's a punk with a big mouth for even talking about it. We know why he brought it up, because their show is all about ratings. Agree or disagree the record this year will say weather he stays or goes. I have 0 faith that his defense will be able to only lose 1 -2 more games the rest of the year. I don't care if the coach is purple, all I want to see is improvement year over year. There's been a lot of mistakes made by Charlie in his first three years and improvement not so much.
I haven't met a single UT alumni that wasn't excited about the Strong hire. All were looking forward to the success he would bring to Texas.
Look up the recruiting process of David robinson. He went on city Tours of San Antonio with Red. Lunches, dinners-- the gambit. I could tell you I've been told this by Red himself because I used to be a partner in a company he owned a majority share in---- or you can take my word for it. Of course if you don't wanna take my word for it-- we can always make PayPal bets.....
Well not really sure we need to make a bet on it, it's not really that important. I was merely trying to throw some levity on was seemed to be a tense thread. While by the way, I was agreeing with you with your position / opinion of Red.
However:
http://articles.latimes.com/1987-09-24/sports/sp-10083_1_san-antonio-spurs
Lots of us in South Texas have been partners with Red on things so I can appreciate that. Lots of us were also there when it happened.
I just want to win! Sick of this crap already and I've been patient. The whole racist thing is crap and it will blow over just like everything else. Look at Baylor no one cares about what happened there anymore. The media has already died down and that's actual shit that went down. If Herbstreet wants to use the race card that's fine it's his opinion but he needs to look at the facts. We're not winning!
I think the majority of fans and alumni were excited for a new fired up coach but it's wearing thin.
Exactly--- pandering to the throngs of troglodytes out there that see themselves as morally or intellectually superior but when it comes to sports, they live under a rock.
Charlie is a good man. So was Mack. By all accounts, Texas tries to only hire good men. For that, they get a great job, phenomenal pay, and are not fired during the season. They get to leave with wealth and dignity.
Not to belabor a point but we drafted David in 1987....
http://articles.latimes.com/1987-09-24/sports/sp-10083_1_san-antonio-spurs
As our friend says, just going to have to take my word on this one. While Red was one of the partners and part of the process, it was Angelo who took the chance and closed the deal.
Oh to get the thread back on course... Herbstreit's take was awful, misinformed and biased. Pot stirrer....
and looking at the video again... its so obvious he was playing the crowd of Farmers. Its all about his Q Rating. Farmers were the home team and the SEC is the flavor of the month right now. Trust me, if anyone outside of our fan base even cared who Red was or what he said, they had to look him up.
I wonder who did his research on how awful we are on boards like these and that we have the only rich reactionary booster....
Who would want the job in Austin, Kirk ole boy...just about every coach in football.
Have a nice day, enjoy your TV gig.
and looking at the video again... its so obvious he was playing the crowd of Farmers. Its all about his Q Rating. Farmers were the home team and the SEC is the flavor of the month right now. Trust me, if anyone outside of our fan base even cared who Red was or what he said, they had to look him up.
I wonder who did his research on how awful we are on boards like these and that we have the only rich reactionary booster....
Who would want the job in Austin, Kirk ole boy...just about every coach in football.
Have a nice day, enjoy your TV gig.
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Maybe he was a successful HC because of Teddy Bridgewater, i'm sure that had a lot to do with it.
They didn't win every year with Bridgewater and he didn't play defense for Louisville. He built Louisville and he is rebuilding UT, he just won't be given the time, despite restrictions he was placed under his first two years by the AD and his own mistakes. He should be allowed to see his recruits develop beyond 1-2 years IF he gets the same opportunity UNPROVEN Muschamp was given at Florida.
He will if he can figure out how to post that elusive winning season.
I think Kirk was at least partially correct. You may recall that Charlie Strong was not the first, second, or third coach offered the job. Some speculate that he was fifth or sixth down the list. Regardless, several coaches supposedly turned down the offer.
On the race issue, I posted in another thread that although people here are not down on Strong because of his race but rather his results, others around the country will play the race card if he is fired. That's just the socio-political environment we are in today. However, Herbstreit did not mention race in his comments. He did mention the comment made by McCombs. But that comment, while actually objective and not racist at all, was jumped on by the progressive crowd in Austin as being racist and the sentiment was echoed by journalists across the country who smelled blood in the water and were itching for something sensational at UT. And they got it...
The bottom line - Strong is a coach who is in over his head. He was from the very beginning. It has nothing to do with race, but it has everything to do with the fact that he was set up for failure from the very beginning - by being courted and hired by UT. BMDs like McCombs who are cut out of the process are going to speak their minds. Red did just that. In retrospect, he was right. This was a bad hire from the outset. And in the end, someone finally pointed out the emperor had no clothes.
The race thing is ridiculous. If Stoops went 13-17 or whatever over his next 30 games, there would be a mob with torches and and pitchforks outside of his house in Norman.
The race thing is ridiculous. If Stoops went 13-17 or whatever over his next 30 games, there would be a mob with torches and and pitchforks outside of his house in Norman.
Agreed. BUT- and not to get political MM but we are talking about football here-- race baiting sells right now. It's a hot button topic. Sure, it exists (sadly). But ALL human beings are biased in one way or the other. I like girls with blonde hair and huge boobs more than I like girls with dark hair and no boobs. I like chocolate peanut butter ice cream more than I like plain old vanilla. I like coaches with a long resume and lots of accomplishments better than those without.
It's ok to be biased. As long as you're causing no harm to any other individual--- bias away. But the word "bias" doesn't sell like the word "cesspool" or the "inference" of racism. And let's also not forget that people are inherently quick these days to point the finger at anything that even "sort of/possibly/might be/could be slanted" at being politically incorrect. It empowers them in their own narrow, low self worth, little minds. When you've got nothing to feel good about going on in your world, you're quick to jump in someone else's sh!t to give yourself value or worth. Herbstreet opened the Pandora's box for every hack with a blog and an axe to grind to come down on us. I warned ya'll it would happen. Herbstreet was the opening salvo.
Good points and I agree with most. I'll disagree on two things. It is very difficult to get the hiring right. Strong had a very good resume and appeared to be ready for the big time. He was a DC for Florida in their championship run, was DC for iconic coaches in Meyer and Holtz, and above all, he was very successful at a mid major. Though he wasn't my first choice, I won't say that it was a bad hire from the outset or that he was set up to fail. He is the HC and has an abundance of resources regardless of any outside noise. He has to make it happen. Second, is about coaches turning down Texas. It is a shot to our ego, but, it is factual to a point. I just feel that to a certain extent there is luck involved because of timing of where the quality coaches are in their career. They went hard after Saban. I liked it but, we all know it was a gamble because he had so much stability and reasons to stay. Even with all his success at bama, Saban actually seriously considered it from what was reported. Outside of that, I think there was Jim Mora and James Franklin maybe. Colin Cowherd was alluding to John Harbaugh which would have been a dream come true, but, that turned out to be nothing. I am on the outside, so I really don't know who really and truly was on Texas'/Patterson's radar.
Isn't that slander? He's dumber than Craig James and you know what happened Craig. As far as Strong I have no idea what you should do.
Not worth starting a new thread over, but did anyone post about Earl's comments? If so, it must have been taken down by a Mod. However, his comments tie back to this thread.
“You’re not going to win all the ballgames,” Campbell said on KVUE. “I think (what) the guy on ESPN said was right. (Kirk) Herbstreit or whatever his name says, let him stay, leave him alone."
“You’re not going to win all the ballgames,” Campbell said on KVUE. “I think (what) the guy on ESPN said was right. (Kirk) Herbstreit or whatever his name says, let him stay, leave him alone."
It's hard to see any coaching going on, when our record indicates we are worse off with this coach (losing record) than the one we had (winning record). Additionally, we have one of the worse defenses (again) in UT history. Finally, the coaching blunders continue to manifest themselves on Saturdays and it reeks of incompetence.
He's coached Texas for 30 games now and i've never seen a Texas defense look as awful as the one they're putting on the field now. They're getting worse, not better.That's totally inexcusable! The talent isn't that bad, it's the coaching. Thank God for Gilbert or we'd be 1-4.
It has nothing to do with race or anything else, its about wins & losses. If Charles Manson went 30-0 as the Texas head coach, we'd love him! That reminds me of a quote by Barry Switzer a few yrs ago when he was asked about that Missouri player that was gay if the NFL owners would draft him. Switzer said hell yes they'll draft him, if Charles Manson could run a 4.2 forty the NFL owners WOULD DRAFT him too!! haha
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