Mens BB vs #6 WVU
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A&M has a really good team. This year. But let's be realistic - Kennedy is a horrible coach. He stumbled into this excellent recruiting class because Avery Johnson's son wanted to be an Aggie. He played on the same AAU team as the other top recruits. Avery gets the Alabama job, and sonny goes with him. No more recruiting the top Dallas AAU talent. Once Tyler Davis, who is a beast, turns pro, its back to the norm. I wouldn't rule out the Aggies in the Final 4 this year. But I would bet on multiple Final 4's with Shaka in Austin.
I'll agree with most of that. I can't stand Billy Kennedy either. As far as X's and O's the guy sucks. His offense wears me out. He teaches pretty good defense and kids play hard under him, but tournament will be interesting because coaching gets better and I'm not so sure A&M makes it past the sweet 16...if that. I like the talent on this team, but I don't think it's utilized at all. They don't feed Tyler Davis near enough. Hogg should be posting guys with his size...etc. Shaka will have Texas doing well, and he really doesn't even have his type of kids yet.
If 20 wins is the threshold to make the tourney, I think it's going to be close. Texas needs 8 more wins. Are there 8 wins out there for a team that gave up 24 offensive boards last night? Oh yeah WV shot like 14 percent from the 3. I doubt the rest of the league will be so inept.
KU - 2x, TCU - 1x, Vandy-1x, Baylor-2x, OU-2x, Iowa State - 1x, WV-1x, TT-1x, KS - 1x, OkieLight - 1x.
KU - 2x, TCU - 1x, Vandy-1x, Baylor-2x, OU-2x, Iowa State - 1x, WV-1x, TT-1x, KS - 1x, OkieLight - 1x.
If I was coaching the Ags ----- Tyler Davis would touch the ball every possession. He is as impressive a freshman as I have seen since maybe Durant (I'm not saying he's as good!). He's huge, has soft hands, nice shot. I'd feed him every chance.
We need to keep in mind that Texas' tough defense had something to do with that poor percentage.
Oh the irony.
Just as Mack like quadrupled the history of all things ATM during his short tenure compared to ATMs 100+ yrs of futility.
Barnes era can boast the same thing as compared to ATM.
Your post is like a blind midget pointing out the dirt on a celebrity's shoe. Jealous much???
About the half hearted response I'd expect. While it isn't like football or baseball and we just smash you with National championships on top of every other category......Let's just take a comparison of the two, since you started this pissing contest for whatever reason in a TX vs WVU thread (isn't there some SEC board you can run to and play in your own sandbox since you cried and ran away from daddy):
Team A
12 NCAA tourney appearances
9 wins and 13 losses in tourney
3 sweet 16 appearances
0 elite 8 appearances
0 final four appearances
Team B
32 NCAA tourney appearances
35 wins and 35 losses in tourney
10 sweet 16 appearances
7 elite 8 appearances
3 final four appearances
And you don't want to see the H2H records or the conference title comparisons. Its ugly.
While there isn't any national title to be jealous of.....basically Texas at least triples everything you have ever done....and then some.
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But I thought National Championships is all that matters? Move the goal jsto. All those NCAA tourney appearances and no national championship?
Does it matter seeing as how aggys will never win a NC in anything worth while in your lifetime? We can go to conference champioships, which we blast you guys in... we can use tourney stats - which we blast you in... WHY do we need to move the goal when we trump agys in every aspect? Logic/reality amd facts - these are the things that elude aggy... well those and championships in things NOT involving farm animals..... but thanks for playing mikey
I knew you guys would bring this stuff after we beat you by double digits this season. It's your favorite thing to do when you lose. Just having some fun Soulja!
WV was a terrible 35 percent from the line. That's 15 points that had nothing to do with defense. Texas stole one last night. Nothing wrong with winning ugly. In fact, I applaud the gutsy performance. But I continue to think making the tournament will be a near thing.
Idiot mike. We have Shaka Smart. That alone means we are much more likely to win something long before you do. I think your coach is crap, but even if he did turn out to be great, some other school would just take him from you. You're aggy. You're a stepping stone. Shaka has reached his destination.
Of course you would devolve the argument and turn it in to a cat chasing his tail.
Now it is OU fans that post here that say NCs are ALL that matter. And they say this because they have more NCs and are behind in many other areas. So they vault up their talking point.
My stance. NCs are huge. They are by far what is most important. After that it is overall wins, Conference titles. Other accomplishments. H2H. And so on.
So to answer your question. No NCs is not ALL that matters. They are the most important thing. And when comparing two schools, which neither have an NC to their resume. Everything else certainly matters. Especially when we are not splitting hairs....UT triples your history and then some.
But by all means, take the above logic and make it illogical in your response. And also feel free to put more words/talking points in my post...because you don't want to face facts but want to spin it to argue about something else. We are used to you trolls doing this.
So what. Texas was 18 of 30 from the free throw line. That is 12 points we left on the table. Tell you what, I'll give W Va 15 points and we'll take our 12. We still win 68-64.
Truer words have never been spoken about aggy. Win something, lesser. Then talk.
And, as I pointed out, A&M winning helps Texas' seeding too.
I actually could see A&M winning their conference championship (regular season anyway), if that counts as "winning something." Now, granted that's mostly because the few other decent teams in the SEC this year are only on the Aggie's schedule once, but yeah, their regular season is going to look pretty good based on their record (and definitely by A&M standards).
And yeah, they have the head-to-head win over us, which sucks. I mean, it would be interesting to see how that game would look now, or how it would look in late February... we DID after all face them in our 3rd game of our 1st season under a new head coach trying to install a new system. It's still a loss, but I think most people would admit that Texas has been playing better recently than they did in their first few games, and that the hiring of Coach Smart isn't really even expected to have its payoff until next year or the one after that. But hey, they beat us and they're running wild in a bad basketball conference where the two teams that are usually "power teams" are having down years and everyone else is pretty bad. Good for them.
After last night's game, Texas has the #1 SOS according to RPI statistics and based on who is left on the schedule that shouldn't really go down too much. Texas A&M has the #41 SOS according to RPI, and the rest of the schedule could have that trending downward (with a game against Iowa State ironically one of the few games left that might help their SOS instead of hurting it, along with South Carolina and Kentucky... while our SEC/Big 12 challenge game against Vandy probably will be one of the few games that hurt our SOS, win or lose).
It's never fun to lose to the Aggies, but given the circumstances of this season in particularly I don't think there's much about it that is going to bother any of us. We're already improving quicker than most people would have thought and the upside of this team and of Coach Smart's future should be pretty freakin high.
Texas can't play the type of game they did last night giving up 24 offensive boards and shooting 60 percent from the line and expect to win 8 more games in what's left of their Big 12 schedule.
Yeah, for one, BBR is right. At this point, the top 6 teams in the conference should make it into the tournament pretty comfortably unless somehow something happens where teams 6-10 basically lose all the rest of their games. I mean, we have 6 losses this early in the season and we have a #15 ranked RPI with a #1 ranked SOS.
But that said, if you asked me to guess about how many wins we'd have with the rest of the slate, I'd guesstimate somewhere around 7 or 8 given our schedule and where we play each game. And that doesn't include Big 12 Tournament games.
You (Charlie Mang) may have seen a bad showing last night, but I saw a good strategy that took a really good team out of their system and made them take shots that they usually wouldn't attempt. I like that I've seen us win different ways against teams where different strategies make sense. We're still not the ideal team for what Coach Smart would like to implement, and one of our key players is out with an injury so I fully expect us to lose a game or two we shouldn't, but I think that we've also shown that we're capable of winning games against very good teams too. I expect a mix of both down the stretch.
Since we are on the subject of basketball then maybe you should practice what you preach.
Yep, I would feed him as well. Defenses would have to double him creating open looks for guys like Hogg, House, and Caruso who can all shoot the ball. There are times where they go 10 minutes without ever letting him touch it.
New polls have us locked in as a 6 seed.
They are saying 17 wins by the end of regular season would get us an 8/9 seed with our resume. Anything more is gravy and pushing us to a higher seed. 17 wins is doable, but not a given with our schedule. One would think a win or two in the conf tourney would easily put us closer to that 20 win magic # that locks you in for sure.
Looking forward to what Shaka is building here in future years. Pretty impressive the quick turnaround even with key injuries. The incoming recruits paired with what we have will make things interesting.
I'd assume we lose Taylor, Cam, and Felix this year. Roach and the incoming guys will play a big part on next years team.
They are saying 17 wins by the end of regular season would get us an 8/9 seed with our resume. Anything more is gravy and pushing us to a higher seed. 17 wins is doable, but not a given with our schedule. One would think a win or two in the conf tourney would easily put us closer to that 20 win magic # that locks you in for sure.
Looking forward to what Shaka is building here in future years. Pretty impressive the quick turnaround even with key injuries. The incoming recruits paired with what we have will make things interesting.
I'd assume we lose Taylor, Cam, and Felix this year. Roach and the incoming guys will play a big part on next years team.
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