Would you object to waterboarding to get to the bottom of this deal?
More Baylor Football Atrocities.......
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Who Art or these monsters oops kids he recruited? I say Art goes first and let these mf'ers sit and watch so they can just spill the beans!
I think thy only had an "on her" code
I dont mean to be flippant or disrespectful but things have been so disfunctional that one has to wonder.
Diadevic you're a good guy and you've always handled the ribbing in a good way. You get it, it's tit for tat. If it's any consolation, I will never believe in a million years that Baylor is the only place this stuff is going on. Unfortunately, college football is a business that can and does generate a lot of money. These coaches recruiting these 4 and 5 star athletes just hope and pray something like this doesn't happen at their school because regardless of what people would like to believe, there are a lot of very questionable character guys that are great at football. My school is no stranger to this either.
I think she should have gone immediately to the hospital,taken an exam and swab so you could trace the players with the DNA,case closed and players would be in a jail cell today where they belong.This comment was made by lady friend of mine who was a lab tech.
Gentlemen,
This going on all over Colleges. Athletes are popular. They like to party. They pick some girl at the party and drug her and drag her off and act likes dogs in the street. The little girl wakes up sober and blames herself for not keeping her drink in her hand and for accepting a drink from some jerk she did not know. Maybe she has a Daddy like me.
I had no girls, but if some lady in my family was done like that, the only safe place for the perps would be one pistol shot deep in a prison until they got word I had stepped off the earth.
I think Rape and ESPECIALLY gang rape should be declared a Capitol offense. Rape is not about sex. It's about domination or revenge and sometimes a combination of the two.
If you recall, at the beginning of Strong's time with us. two of our Wide receivers played that so well, I would say they had probably done it before in High School. Read the APD on that case. Right after that, Strong started mentioning respect for women.
I'm a country boy and I think getting a woman drunk or drugged up and raping her is much like tying one of a horse's back legs up by it's belly and later claiming you are a bronc busting Cowboy.
We need to treat the girls like they were our Mother, Sister, or Daughter and quit blaming the victim when the real truth is she probably was too trusting and had something dropped in her drink while she wasn't looking.
This going on all over Colleges. Athletes are popular. They like to party. They pick some girl at the party and drug her and drag her off and act likes dogs in the street. The little girl wakes up sober and blames herself for not keeping her drink in her hand and for accepting a drink from some jerk she did not know. Maybe she has a Daddy like me.
I had no girls, but if some lady in my family was done like that, the only safe place for the perps would be one pistol shot deep in a prison until they got word I had stepped off the earth.
I think Rape and ESPECIALLY gang rape should be declared a Capitol offense. Rape is not about sex. It's about domination or revenge and sometimes a combination of the two.
If you recall, at the beginning of Strong's time with us. two of our Wide receivers played that so well, I would say they had probably done it before in High School. Read the APD on that case. Right after that, Strong started mentioning respect for women.
I'm a country boy and I think getting a woman drunk or drugged up and raping her is much like tying one of a horse's back legs up by it's belly and later claiming you are a bronc busting Cowboy.
We need to treat the girls like they were our Mother, Sister, or Daughter and quit blaming the victim when the real truth is she probably was too trusting and had something dropped in her drink while she wasn't looking.
I agree she should have done this or that. She was traumatized and it's unusual. I think the entitlement of these players is worse than ever. The Flagship board had 9 fluff post about Sterns. This receiver Waddle gets a lot of attention naming his top 12. Heros still in high school.
I do believe Briles had a thug environment. With all the allegations we have 1 arrest and conviction and 1 ruling over turned. Call me what you want but I believe the individuals that were raped should always go to the cops and file a report. When you file a lawsuit to try and make $ I do have a problem with that. If they want to file a civil suit it should be against the perpetrators!
Again, the girl at Florida St did that, and look where it got her.
Agree with your post 100% topdeck. The young lady at FSU was intimidated by FSUPD TPD and the FSU administration. JW should be in prison today but due to his football prowess isn't.
Where is the outrage? Why isn't ESPN camped out at FSU like in Waco? Why aren't these women's groups boycotting/protesting Tampa Bay Buc games for taking this guy?
So any time we have an accusation the person accused is automatically guilty? Come on pussy cats don't be so hard on our judicial system! Not saying the jury's always get it right but it's a pretty good system.
I cant tell if you are serious, but if you are ...are you trying to say that FSU is bad as Baylor? Are you actually trying to compare them?...Baylor and Waco have been a cesspool for years. They arent the only place with problems, but trying to say everyone else is just as bad is like saying that a 5 gallon oil spill is just as bad as a superfund site.
I have to disagree with this one. Back during the Bobby Bowden years you wouldn't believe the things that the FSU kids did and it was swept under the rug. And now it seems like they're picking up where they left off. I don't know maybe it's because Tallahassee is their state capital and it's easier to make it go away?
I'm not comparing FSU to Baylor. I am trying to understand why girls don't go to the police. Topdeck rightfully brought up the Winston case as a cautionary tale demonstrating why a young lady would not go to the police. As a society, we should NOT allow that to happen. Intimidating victims to the point that they won't report a crime? Allowing the perp to roam free to strike again? Winston turns pro and the story is swept away forever?
As a society we shouldn't let people with power prey on those without. Agree. Unfortunately people in power often have great influence over society so it's sort of a dog chasing it's tail situation.
I agree completely. These crimes should have been reported to the local police, and not the campus police.
There is shame involved when it comes to women. They feel they will be labeled as a slut or whore by the public. In their mind it's better to keep quiet and not suffer the wrath of public opinion. It's better to deal with one traumatic incident than two.
Pretty simple.
Pretty simple.
I understand - but it is also simple to realize that the perp remains on the loose. If you believe all of the reports out of Waco, a good number of assaults could have been prevented if the initial victim(s) had come forward to the police (putting aside for the moment the administration's culpability in not going to the police). That's a lot of pressure to place on the victim. But it would save a lot of others the same horrors. I'm not sure there is a simple answer.
Makes you wonder why each woman went to the school first doesn't it? I mean NOT one of them went to the police first. Is there some policy that the student should go to the school first to report the assault? Serious question.
This is one of the reasons the problem is exacerbated.
No. Idiotic to suggest that or infer it from my post. The question was why victims don't always go to the police. In the case of Florida St., the girl did go to the police, and they told her to "think long and hard" about pressing charges, because Winston was a famous athlete.
Some girls don't go to the police for the same reason all people don't react the same way in other circumstances.
Let me give you an example. Remember several years ago, there was high school in New York where underclassmen on the football team were being sexually assaulted (in some cases with pine cones and broom handles). This went on for years, and the victims didn't report it. Why didn't they go to the police? Your explanation will provide you with your answer.
Serious question aren't campus police the same as local police in authority? I mean if you bypass the campus police for the local police aren't they immediately just going to turn it over to the campus police? I thought they were both sworn police officers, they just have different beats. I assumed that's how it works, or are campus police essentially armed security guards?
No, if you go to the local police, they won't kick it back to the campus police. Campus police are closer to security guards. Not necessarily the individual police themselves, but the campus department. A police department is more than the officers who ride around in the squad cars. They also have detectives who actually investigate the crimes. You don't really have a bunch of detectives at a campus PD. They are more just uniformed officers making arrests.
That's exactly what happened at Florida St. The girl originally called campus police. Campus officers showed up, then alerted Tallahassee police, who showed up and took over the case. The TPD then assigned the case to a department detective.
Then you get these lame judges that don't even give the attacker any time.
Example - Nolan Bruder and Brock Turner
