Offensively Challenged

[CAHorn47]

I just don't get it. Why can't Augie recruit kids who can hit the effin baseball? I know we scored 9 runs in 1 game against Stanford, but that was an aberration. One run yesterday....no runs on 2 measly hits through 5 today. Already down 4-0. How long has it been since we had a Longhorn baseball team that wasn't offensively challenged? Back to the Jeff Ontiveros days?

 

[FlourBluffHorn]

I just don't get it. Why can't Augie recruit kids who can hit the effin baseball? I know we scored 9 runs in 1 game against Stanford, but that was an aberration. One run yesterday....no runs on 2 measly hits through 5 today. Already down 4-0. How long has it been since we had a Longhorn baseball team that wasn't offensively challenged? Back to the Jeff Ontiveros days?

I think them days are over CA, like it used to be every yr the hats were turned backwards and we beat everyone who came to Austin or other wise, I think kids put more into FB and Basketball than Baseball now, just thinking that's the reason


Hook'em

 

[CAHorn47]

I think them days are over CA, like it used to be every yr the hats were turned backwards and we beat everyone who came to Austin or other wise, I think kids put more into FB and Basketball than Baseball now, just thinking that's the reason


Hook'em

I hear ya, FBH, but other teams seem to be able to recruit kids who can hit. Why can't we?

 

[RoboCocks21]

We recruit well for baseball but you are right why can't we get guys that can hit like back in the early 00's those teams were fun to watch and those boys had heart! It makes me mad losing this much in baseball....we should always be a top 5 or 10 team every year in baseball and playing for a natty almost every year! You're right with other teams being able to get guys that can hit.

 

[salado_horn]

Cause Augie concentrates on Pitching and Defense. I'm tired of Augie ball!

 

[clob94]

Guys, Augie recruits the top tier kids. Those are the kids most likely to be drafted. Problem is, most kids drafted in rounds 1 through 3 sign the contract. Then Texas has to reverse coarse and start recruiting those 2nd and 3rd tier kids. Problem is, they've already been recruited for years by the other schools. Sure, we nab a few, but we are left with those 7th and 8th round kids. Pick of the litter is already sewn up.

 

[LonghornMM]

I love Augie, but this low to no scoring crap is beyond old. We've seen this for how many years now? It just isn't working. I agree with Clob about how Texas recruits, but they way Augie is doing things isn't working. He either needs to change how/who he recruits or it's time for a new baseball coach.

 

[FlourBluffHorn]

I love Augie, but this low to no scoring crap is beyond old. We've seen this for how many years now? It just isn't working. I agree with Clob about how Texas recruits, but they way Augie is doing things isn't working. He either needs to change how/who he recruits or it's time for a new baseball coach.

Well, look at the rest of our Sports, New FB coach, New BB coach so why not Baseball, I guess its like the George Washington Aircraft Carrier, you got to bring it in and change the reactor and upgrade to keep up and other stuff after 10 yrs or 20 so it can still be on top..I like Augie, but we have found out the last couple of yrs that changes can happen at anytime at Texas and for any reason

Hook'em

 

[clob94]

Virginia coach.......

 

[BurntOrange1]

Painful....painfully agonizing to watch. Cal has enjoyed their visit.....mother $@#!ers.

 

[CAHorn47]

The beat goes on....I'm ready for a new regime...can't stand these putrid offensive performances.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

Time to retire, Augie. From this job, at least.

He's really been killing our top all-time winning percentage over the past several years.

 

[westx]

Augie is already the winningest coach in college baseball history. At season's end he will have past the 2,000 mark for games won. He will also have over 800 wins at Texas alone. That is a great way to go out and I hope he takes it.

 

[ryan_sublett]

Yeah it's time to make a change. I argued for a change in baseball last year. I just thought with a new AD, new football and basketball coach we should start fresh from the top down. I think now it is time for sure to let Aguie retire gracefully but for Texas to start fresh.

 

[FlourBluffHorn]

How many times did Augie bat? What was his pitching record like for this game? How many strikeouts did he have or pop flys? Did he have any base hits? Sounds like to me your blaming Augie for a buncha kids that can't play good ball or else they don't give a shit one or the other..Augie can't make them win games, they have to do that their-selves, if they can't play ball then get rid of their young asses and get someone who can..they had to have played in HS before they got here in between partying with the cheerleaders and acting like studs....

Ya really loved him when he was winning the CWS's, didn't ya?

He is to Texas baseball what DKR was to football...

PS. I will send a letter to Augie to tuck their little asses in bed every nite...

Hook'em

 

[ryan_sublett]

How many times did Augie bat? What was his pitching record like for this game? How many strikeouts did he have or pop flys? Did he have any base hits? Sounds like to me your blaming Augie for a buncha kids that can't play good ball or else they don't give a shit one or the other..Augie can't make them win games, they have to do that their-selves, if they can't play ball then get rid of their young asses and get someone who can..they had to have played in HS before they got here in between partying with the cheerleaders and acting like studs....


PS. I will send a letter to Augie to tuck their little asses in bed every nite...

Hook'em

I could say the same thing about Charlie Strong. Coaches take the heat for losses and under proformence

 

[BringBackRoyal]

How many times did Augie bat? What was his pitching record like for this game? How many strikeouts did he have or pop flys? Did he have any base hits? Sounds like to me your blaming Augie for a buncha kids that can't play good ball or else they don't give a shit one or the other..Augie can't make them win games, they have to do that their-selves, if they can't play ball then get rid of their young asses and get someone who can..they had to have played in HS before they got here in between partying with the cheerleaders and acting like studs....


PS. I will send a letter to Augie to tuck their little asses in bed every nite...

Hook'em

It's the coach's job to recruit and develop players who will win games with good in-game coaching. If the players aren't getting it done over time -- especially in a program that has long been under the total control of the current HC -- then that is on the coach. Augie had a great run here (and elsewhere), but his teams have mostly failed to deliver for years now, and the buck stops with him. He has had ample time to diagnose and address the problems that are preventing the program from performing at an elite level.

 

[FlourBluffHorn]

I could say the same thing about Charlie Strong. Coaches take the heat for losses and under proformence

That's what I liked about DKR, you had to prove that you wanted to play for the Longhorns! He didn't give ya nothing but what ya earned..

Hook'em

 

[FlourBluffHorn]

It's the coach's job to recruit and develop players who will win games with good in-game coaching. If the players aren't getting it done over time -- especially in a program that has long been under the total control of the current HC -- then that is on the coach. Augie had a great run here (and elsewhere), but his times have mostly failed to deliver for years now, and the buck stops with him. He has had ample time to diagnose and address the problems that are preventing the program from elite performance.

You can't address the problem if ya can't get the players to come here to Texas and play, its just like FB, they all wanna play for a winner who's on top, they don't realize that there are so many places at the table....maybe Augie had some bad recruiters on his staff and need to turn his staff over like Strong did or clean house like Smart did.. anyway he has my respect just like DKR and I think if adjustments are made then he will be back on top, if ya bring a new coach in, ya gonna lose and not go no where for the 1st 3 yrs anyways


Hook'em

 

[Metcalf #2]

Any baseball coaches out there named Swift, Speedy, or something like that? That would be awesome.

 

[Metcalf #2]

nm

 

[FlourBluffHorn]

Texas will not fire Augie, he may retire but, not fired and when Texas does lose him their will be about 20 Big named schools just fighin to get him and that would make Texas loo like a buncha fools for getting rid of him, think about thst, Texas somehow goes to CWS and last team to beat is Augies from another school and they smoke the crap outa Texas, that would look good wouldn't it?


Hook'em

 

[Metcalf #2]

Augie won't coach baseball after Texas. He'll be retiring soon. Texas will probably allow him to go out on his terms. He's earned it. We just have to be patient. It's an honor to have had him at Texas, but I'm looking forward to change. I think he's lost it much like Gus did toward the end.

 

[FlourBluffHorn]

Augie won't coach baseball after Texas. He'll be retiring soon. Texas will probably allow him to go out on his terms. He's earned it. We just have to be patient. It's an honor to have had him at Texas, but I'm looking forward to change. I think he's lost it much like Gus did toward the end.

I agree Metcalf, Good Explanation!


Hook'em

 

[BringBackRoyal]

Augie had a great run here, but he didn't build Texas Baseball from scratch. We were already the all-time winningest program before he came to Austin. Augie does not have carte blanche to coach for as long as he likes. He was on very thin ice before the improbable CWS two years ago, and if he can't get the program back to where it's been for most of its history very soon, he'll be shown the door.

 

[JoeAg]

"Guys, Augie recruits the top tier kids. Those are the kids most likely to be drafted. Problem is, most kids drafted in rounds 1 through 3 sign the contract. Then Texas has to reverse coarse and start recruiting those 2nd and 3rd tier kids. Problem is, they've already been recruited for years by the other schools. Sure, we nab a few, but we are left with those 7th and 8th round kids. Pick of the litter is already sewn up."

Don't ALL the top tier programs have some form of this problem? I'm talking South Carolina, Vandy, Rice, LSU, UCLA, and probably TCU. Not a flame at all, but I think this is a problem for everyone, not just Texas.

 

[westx]

"Guys, Augie recruits the top tier kids. Those are the kids most likely to be drafted. Problem is, most kids drafted in rounds 1 through 3 sign the contract. Then Texas has to reverse coarse and start recruiting those 2nd and 3rd tier kids. Problem is, they've already been recruited for years by the other schools. Sure, we nab a few, but we are left with those 7th and 8th round kids. Pick of the litter is already sewn up."

Don't ALL the top tier programs have some form of this problem? I'm talking South Carolina, Vandy, Rice, LSU, UCLA, and probably TCU. Not a flame at all, but I think this is a problem for everyone, not just Texas.

Clob made this point above. Also, MM made the point that Augie should/could have changed recruiting strategies due to this issue.

 

[ryan_sublett]

All of the top programs deal with their top kids getting drafted. If that's why Aguie is struggling he does need to retire because his peers are dealing with the same thing and winning.

 

[Metcalf #2]

Augie had a great run here, but he didn't build Texas Baseball from scratch. We were already the all-time winningest program before he came to Austin. Augie does not have carte blanche to coach for as long as he likes. He was on very thin ice before the improbable CWS two years ago, and if he can't get the program back to where it's been for most of its history very soon, he'll be shown the door.

I can't really argue with any of that. I'm tired of it, too, and normally I'd be all for shit canning his ass. It's just that whole winningest baseball coach of all time thing I guess that makes me want cut him some slack. Besides, it'd be kind of awkward to fire a guy, then build a statue in his honor, and there should be a statue. I'm just hoping he sees the writing on the wall and rides off into the sunset soon.

 

[CAHorn47]

Up 7-0 after 7...give up 2 in the 8th and 5 in the 9th for a tie...then lose 10-7 in 11. Series sweep for Cal. There is so much wrong with this team....hitting...defense...pitching...no one phase of the game that doesn't suck. The program needs an enema.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

Jesus Christ. First time Texas has ever suffered a four-game sweep. Disgraceful.

Time to pack it up, Augie. Either take the dignified approach and retire or get sh*tcanned. Your call.

 

[FlourBluffHorn]

If everyone is ask for Augies ass, well where do we send these worthless players that can't play Baseball worth a shit to? I mean ya'll said they can't hit or pitch or what else so what good are they? Your only solving half your problem by sending Augie away. Reminds me of how the fans wanted to hang DKR and he came back and won, now look a stadium named after him and statues and he was more popular then the Prez of the US and the Pope at Texas and still is most reverent .....



Hook'em

 

[BringBackRoyal]

If everyone is ask for Augies ass, well where do we send these worthless players that can't play Baseball worth a shit to? I mean ya'll said they can't hit or pitch or what else so what good are they? Your only solving half your problem by sending Augie away. Reminds me of how the fans wanted to hang DKR and he came back and won, now look a stadium named after him and statues and he was more popular then the Prez of the US and the Pope at Texas and still is most reverent .....



Hook'em

So we should just indefinitely retain underperforming coaches who recruit and develop underperforming players? Grant them tenure like professors?

 

[FlourBluffHorn]

So we should just indefinitely retain underperforming coaches who recruit and develop underperforming players? Grant them tenure like professors?

I don't have the answers for that, I think we oughta give him another season to see, everybody has their own opinion about that word underperforming I'm sure, is he really underperforming or is his team not that good, or are they that good and just letting him down, the fault just can't be one person, I think a little staff cleaning would be good and perhaps getting a staff that can go out and recruit these guys that are good, the more I hear it sounds like that's what's needed, look what they did to the recruiting in FB and BB, maybe that's what we need to be done in Baseball, but BBR, the kids only care about how fast they can make it to the Show, or to the NFL or NBA and nothing else and they want to pick a team that's already winning instead of one that's not, some don't even care about their education, sometimes the program goes thru a bad spell and can't win as fast as the fans want them to


Hook'em

 

[clob94]

"Guys, Augie recruits the top tier kids. Those are the kids most likely to be drafted. Problem is, most kids drafted in rounds 1 through 3 sign the contract. Then Texas has to reverse coarse and start recruiting those 2nd and 3rd tier kids. Problem is, they've already been recruited for years by the other schools. Sure, we nab a few, but we are left with those 7th and 8th round kids. Pick of the litter is already sewn up."

Don't ALL the top tier programs have some form of this problem? I'm talking South Carolina, Vandy, Rice, LSU, UCLA, and probably TCU. Not a flame at all, but I think this is a problem for everyone, not just Texas.

Joeag,

Trust me when I tell you this is the Texas recruiting MO. We target specifically the top tier kids and then the staff goes in and says "ok, so what if you're going to be drafted in the 3rd round. Come to Texas, get top flight coaching, win a national title, and then you're a first round pick". I have a cousin that plays on the TCU roster and played select ball since he was 9. He's played on multiple select world series winning teams and knows freaking errrbody. Hell Mike Schmidt worked with him a few years back on his fielding. This is our method. Top tier kids, and Augie still believes he can reel them in. The contracts have just gotten so freaking huge now that it's tough for a kid (aka his parents) to say no.