Oh please no....

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  1. 2300 Nueces

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    I'm all for conference realignment. We know its coming and the Big 12 most likely will be blown up when the GOR expires. To be honest, is there a perfect scenario for Texas? Not really. The Big 10 is better than the Pac 12 or ACC, and I don't think UT has a desire for any potential to join the $EC. The Big 10 probably makes the most sense.
     
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    The carpet baggers to the north want access to Texas. I saw we let OU go north and cut them off. Go west young man.... at least Cali has an equal amount of talent to pull from. The mid west is creating a huge sucking sound in more ways than one. They want Texas talent with little offered in return. We don't need them. They are making a power play through OU to try to get us to bite. I prefer playing in Lubbock compared to some corn or soybean patch.
     
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    Things ebb and flow. What is today doesn't mean it'll be that way 5 or 10 years from now. Logistics and time zones are also given consideration. I don't think the UT brass wants to be going to the west coast and playing games starting at 9:30PM.
     
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    What about football games-baseball games in -20 Fahrenheit?
     
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    These are money decisions, which means they are football decisions. College baseball is an afterthought on this stuff.

    I agree with you about going to the PAC 12 without OU being your better path. PAC12 would be much weaker than BIG10. BIG10 with OU would be a very tough playoff path. But since the playoff committee let OU in this year, why not just stay in the BIG12? Seems like the easiest path of the 3, although PAC12 wouldn't be much tougher.
     
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    The article is stating that tier1/2 monies are going to be a big drop off when new contract comes into being for Big 12 schools. Really?? For Texas?? I say go independent and turn the LHN into a major network beyond Big 12 athletics.
     
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    Football drives conference realignment talks. I don't think that baseball is even given consideration.
     
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    Have any of you seen the West Conference of the Big 10? That's some boring ass football. Wiscy, MINNESOTA, INDIANA, ILLINOIS, IOWA, and UNDUE PERVERSITY. PLeAsE NO! I also see significant hurdles in the Texas state legislature. Aggy got out when the getting was good. At least in the PAC there are gorgeous destinations..... not the back end of a John Deere.
     
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    In the end, money will drive your decision. I do wonder if being able to win more games is part of the thought process.

    Commitment to football on the west coast is pathetic, but money is more important than passion on these deals. The PAC12 championship was embarrassing. $8 tickets & still 50K empty seats. You guys could win big against those schools, they don't give a F about sports.
     
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    I'd go SEC before B1G. Plus I'd take many of the Texas schools with us over that crap listed above. We'd have more of those Yankees down here at our high school games. No thanks.
     
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    There are 153,000 farmers, 153,000 tractors, 85,000 combines, 327 crop dusters, untold numbers of pheasant, and the Ogalala aquifer in nebraska that are like "awww hell nah!".
     
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    Never the SEC. Just not a good fit intellectually. Pac 12 and Big 10 are only options. Latter would be better due to game times.
     
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    Wooooo hoooooo all those teams with I's on their helmets. I can't wait to see those games. I guess we'll be dropping swimming and tennis for men's and women wrestling/hockey?:rolleyes:

    I guess this would put the rest of the teams in the Big 12 save WVU in the PAC or some combination...... TTU and OSU to the SEC? I really hate this. All the old rivalries exchanged for cash and pheasant.
     
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    The Big 12 is a shell of its former self. While it’s not desirable, a situation getting into the Big 10 stabilizes TX long term conference standing wise. Plus they already have a rivalry brewing with Ohio state. It would appease the academic side and be a win for athletics as well. The Big 10 wants to one up the SEC and hate the fact they get left out of the playoffs. They’ll do what’s necessary to increase their chances of getting not one but two teams in the playoffs. TX and OU helps in that regard and also opens recruiting doors and adds eyes to the tv. By the time this might happen I see the playoffs going to 8 teams and having 4 16 team conferences.
     
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    Anywhere other than the PAC 12. What about the LHN and ESPN contract? When does that end?
     
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    Texas best decision would be to can the LHN and save the Big 12.
     
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    Go Independent! we don't need the money! Play who we pick


    Hook'em
     
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    FB that would be great. Who else besides Oklahoma would play your asses on a regular basis? Y’all are arrogant pricks!! Hence the demise of the Big 12
     
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    I really don't see how it happens. Without Texas, I doubt any deal gets done on the west side of the US for the PAC 16. This will set CFB into disarray.
     
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    But, we are rich arrogant pricks! Money talks ! Other school just have dreams of what we have and they never will have...


    Hook'em
     
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    Well then go count your money. We’ll count championships and heismans.
     
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    The contract for the LHN ends in 2031. There is language in there that protects ESPNs investment. ESPN would hold our tier 3 rights until the contract expires and they would have the right to match any offer on other rights should we leave the Big 12. The grant of rights is through June 2025 so a potential suitor would have to do without our tier 3 rights for their conference network for 6 years unless its the SEC or ACC. ESPN already has First and Second Tier agreements with the other conferences but I don't know if it would affect the Fox and or CBS deals should we move.
     
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    ESPN-Disney want out. The LHN is losing money.
     
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    Sure would miss it! I watch a ton of basketball and baseball on there. Not to mention that last aggy ass whipping over and over and over.
     
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    Don't forget to count your ncaa infractions, domestic violence cases, gang rapes, trailers, teeth, and sisters you've impregnated.
     
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    If Texas and OU went to the Big 10 there would be five of the eight blue bloods in one conference. That’s insane! Currently the Big 10 and Big 12 are the only conferences with more than one blue blood.
     
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    Serious question. What are the requirements to be a blue blood, can a program ever lose it's blue blood status & who are the 8 blue blood programs. Thanks
     
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    Not aggy. Not lsu.
     
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    Maybe when you stop comparing all your accomplishments to a blue blood you’ll finally be one. Right now all I see is aggys measuring themselves to what others are doing. As long as you are doing that you will not be one. No one is saying “we need to be like aggy”, and that is the criteria. Others need to look up to you.
     
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    This. Same thing with Texans fans. They continually compare and measure themselves against the Cowboys. Its embarrassing for both a&m and the Texans.
     
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    So there are the super elite: Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, ND & USC, which are obvious. The more fringe blue bloods are were I was looking for clarification. It feels like there are 5 no brainer blue bloods, and then a bunch of debatable fringe blue bloods. Could not understand how the number was 8? Depends on the definition of blue blood, and how blue the blood has to be. You guys are definitely in if you take 10.
     
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    It’s not all about success on the field. Ask yourself which teams are hated the most throughout the country. There are teams in every sport that you either love or hate, no in between. For example Texas, most people hate Texas. Not many really hate A&M, because they really don’t care that much about A&M to have an opinion. It’s the teams that everyone circles on their calendar and wants nothing more than to beat them. It doesn’t matter if they are down that year or not, they’ll say “look, we beat ____”. It’s the teams that others measure their success against.
     
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    So Alabama is The Blue Blood. Everyone hates those bastards, and no one can come close to measuring up.
     
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    Generally, a .700 winning percentage in a p5 conference with lots of conference titles. Sprinkle in mnc's and heismans.
     
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    LHN lost almost 50 million in the first few years but it was profitable in 2016, 17 and most likely will be profitable again this year. No way Disney walks early until they recoup those initial losses. Now if there is a downtown and its not longer profitable I can see Disney wanting out but will Texas want to give up on the money?
     
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    Dunno, the article said the LHN was no longer an issue.
     
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    I'm not sure how clued in an reporter from OU insider is into the thinking at ESPN. Nothing is going to happen until 2025. No league is going to take a new school without its media rights. That leaves roughly 6 years of LHN contract. Based on current revenues The LHN won't be at the break even point by the end of the GOR in 2025. If we do go to a new conference ESPN will probably want to recoup their investment plus any projected profits. It's not iron clad like a GOR but its not going to be cheap either. Probably in the 30-40 million dollar range. Either that or they just decide to live with the LHN until 2031
     
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    It's leaking from someone inside the B1G main office. Fun days in the Big 12.
     
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    How about you shut the **** up as a start?
     
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