i was thinking England circa 1348. But I understood that reference.This has a very 13th century Italian coast feel.
Fine, I’ll have to take the Black Sea coast circa 1347 then...i was thinking England circa 1348. But I understood that reference.
Drat!Fine, I’ll have to take the Black Sea coast circa 1347 then...
I believe 14th Century, but whats a century!This has a very 13th century Italian coast feel.
Fine, I’ll have to take the Black Sea coast circa 1347 then...
I am taking the " Who gives a shit" circa, ya gotta die someway, sounds like a virus that got loose from some military installion in China? Maybe Shiner will protect me from this shit...The US brought them people to Lackland so why would we not have some of it?
I've read different accounts (theories) as to the origin of this sucker. It's got a low morbidity rate, usually only killing the young, old and immune deficient. Easily transferred but low chance of dying. Is it even possible that this is a bio-weapon that hasn't been fully developed, yet it jumped containment due to how easily it's contracted? Perhaps. Could the Chinese have purposely let it off its leash to catalogue the spread pattern? Don't know. Life isn't valuable in China. So it's possible. But the economic impact this is having on China is not good. And it's coming at a time where China is trying to get a leg up on the US in trade, and this isn't helping at all.Lesson of the day:
Quit eating fu**ing bats! At the very least cook them nasty bastards first.
Nothing should really surprise us. Bio weapons scare me infinitely more than things that go boom.I've read different accounts (theories) as to the origin of this sucker. It's got a low morbidity rate, usually only killing the young, old and immune deficient. Easily transferred but low chance of dying. Is it even possible that this is a bio-weapon that hasn't been fully developed, yet it jumped containment due to how easily it's contracted? Perhaps. Could the Chinese have purposely let it off its leash to catalogue the spread pattern? Don't know. Life isn't valuable in China. So it's possible. But the economic impact this is having on China is not good. And it's coming at a time where China is trying to get a leg up on the US in trade, and this isn't helping at all.
I know they put regular army and marines through chem and bio training etc-- but since you guys were on the ground facilitating at times, the search for chem and bio and possible nukes in Iraq, did they put y'all through any more specific/specialized training over and above what was the norm?Nothing should really surprise us. Bio weapons scare me infinitely more than things that go boom.
Bugs have a natural tendency to rapidly adapt & morph to circumvent whatever is thrown at it. As bad as nature makes it, let a manipulative commie nation that openly states their goal is world domination genetically juice up a highly contagious bug that can spread 2weeks before any symptoms show up.....yikes.
It could have started from gnawing on a live bat from the local market, but it is equally plausible the mad scientists needed a field test. Jurassic Park infamously taught us that "nature finds a way."
Not really. There was a strong emphasis on "don't know, don't touch."I know they put regular army and marines through chem and bio training etc-- but since you guys were on the ground facilitating at times, the search for chem and bio and possible nukes in Iraq, did they put y'all through any more specific/specialized training over and above what was the norm?
My wife follows Russian news pretty closely. Russia is saying the virus shows signs of 3 other viruses that are completely separate in the hosts they infect. One is the bird flu, one is a strand that affects bats and the last is a virus that affects pigs.
In other words, the only way this is possible is if it was genetically modified.
Ya I get that-- but I trust Russian news about as far as I can throw a Volkswagen. I've been in too many security meetings about traveling to areas where Russian oil companies are operating, to buy into their BS. We got our asses kissed two October's ago by the south Sudanese because Trump took them off the naughty list--- and they literally told me to "thank trump" for doing that-- like I've ever met him-- and then told us how grateful they were and how they REALLY wanted to do business with US-- so much so, that I got an audience with the 2nd Vice President of South sudan--- ya, they have two vice presidents--- only to have them go with a freaking Russian company instead of us.My wife follows Russian news pretty closely. Russia is saying the virus shows signs of 3 other viruses that are completely separate in the hosts they infect. One is the bird flu, one is a strand that affects bats and the last is a virus that affects pigs.
In other words, the only way this is possible is if it was genetically modified.
If it helps...I was a Chemical Officer in Iraq early on. There’s really not a lot of extra training the average soldier can do, other than donning and wearing protective gear in that climate, or refreshing on identification measures (M8 and M9 paper/tape). They aren’t outfitted with the tools necessary to do much else (analyze, or decon). Our chemical unit was involved in two terrain decon missions, but other than that we were used for humanitarian missions, or post-wide operational activities that helped sustain our logistical base.I know they put regular army and marines through chem and bio training etc-- but since you guys were on the ground facilitating at times, the search for chem and bio and possible nukes in Iraq, did they put y'all through any more specific/specialized training over and above what was the norm?
Wouldn't doubt it one bit. Our gov has been busted doing similar field tests a few times. Just ask Guatamala how they feel about herpes.
Our own CIA released the whooping cough virus in San Fran, Tampa Bay, Savannah & Avon Park then dressed up as public health workers so they could study *uhem... I mean treat the infected.
Let's not even get started on all the voluntold soldiers that got injected with agent orange or radioactive solutions back in the day.
Did you ever grow a third arm or anything?I personally got the full round of the anthrax vaccination between the '01 USS Cole and '03 invasion
Did you get a knot on you? The yellow fever shot didn't bother me, neither did the typhoid shot. The twin rix (hepatitis) didn't bother me either. That anthrax sucked though. I heard they used to give the vaccine for Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever, but they stopped giving it to dudes because it can fvck you up real bad.I personally got the full round of the anthrax vaccination between the '01 USS Cole and '03 invasion
I know DOD has the Special immunization Program for certain individuals that work in certain specialized fields. I would assume you guys had to carry around special atropine auto-injectors which surely had the scare the living sh!t out of you-- the thought of using them, I mean. So you were based out of Missouri?If it helps...I was a Chemical Officer in Iraq early on. There’s really not a lot of extra training the average soldier can do, other than donning and wearing protective gear in that climate, or refreshing on identification measures (M8 and M9 paper/tape). They aren’t outfitted with the tools necessary to do much else (analyze, or decon). Our chemical unit was involved in two terrain decon missions, but other than that we were used for humanitarian missions, or post-wide operational activities that helped sustain our logistical base.
I don’t think there’s any Loose lips sink ships” slippery slope area here with any of this stuff. It’s all public record/knowledge by now anyway.I know DOD has the Special immunization Program for certain individuals that work in certain specialized fields. I would assume you guys had to carry around special atropine auto-injectors which surely had the scare the living sh!t out of you-- the thought of using them, I mean. So you were based out of Missouri?
Tripanchloride spring loaded injector right into the meat of your thigh is akin to bringing in a hospital bedside priest.I know DOD has the Special immunization Program for certain individuals that work in certain specialized fields. I would assume you guys had to carry around special atropine auto-injectors which surely had the scare the living sh!t out of you-- the thought of using them, I mean. So you were based out of Missouri?
The 2nd round lit my arm on fire for a good 30-40mins. Strange that the others didn't have any effect at all.I personally got the full round of the anthrax vaccination between the '01 USS Cole and '03 invasion
Triphenylmethyl chloride?Tripanchloride spring loaded injector right into the meat of your thigh is akin to bringing in a hospital bedside priest.
You're sh!tting me---- the mantra that we used for our ENTIRE weapons program cane from a freaking deer out in Leakey Texas?I never served myself, but I do have a couple of anecdotes. My father was an aviation cadet in 1942. Back then when you got vaccinated, the sergeant had one bottle, 1 syringe, and 1 needle. Daddy said that it didn't look right, but the sergeant said roll up your sleeve. One of the classes had a hepatitis carrier fairly early in the alphabet, say a Ford. 30 % of the cadets after him came down with hepatitis. Which is how we found out that hepatitis can be passed by dirty needles. The anthrax that is the source of the biological weapons came from a dead deer found near Leakey.
YepYou're sh!tting me---- the mantra that we used for our ENTIRE weapons program cane from a freaking deer out in Leakey Texas?
Did you ever grow a third arm or anything?