Outhereincali...

[fortworth4ou2]

Just wanted to give you a shout out for the civil and decent manner in which you post here. Based on my recent thread viewings, that seems to make you an exception to the general rule on OB. You are a rare commodity regarding the reasonable way in which you respond to others/visitors. I thank you for your good character. There are many others too that post similarly.

I'm not trying to get banned here but the qualities I attribute to you above do not appear to be embraced and encouraged by board leadership. That's not to say my opinion is accurate in this situation. There is a great deal of foul/impudent language in a rival's postings such as the Mayfield workout thread that is at the very least - through their indifference and inaction - seemingly condoned by the mod(s). And, it is not just in that thread. It seems fairly pervasive from what I read. Guess there are no board rules that addresses such ill demeanor.

Not that Orangebloods has to be similar to the Scoop but the Scoop has shown the door to those who interact with the incivility that is routinely displayed here. They have a much superior product now for regulars and visitors, imho.

I know, I know. As a visitor, I don't have to read or post here. That would normally be the refrain for my perceived insolence. After all, it's so easy to dismiss an outsider and their expressions.

Don't know what the general purpose - present and future - is for this site. As for me, I enjoy the reasonable and civil expressions of ALL who post. I prefer to give value to responsible, respectful and well-articulated perspectives. Guess that would apparently make me an oddity here.

Again, kudos to you outhereincali for your restraint, real and positive postings. You and others encourage responsible discourse unlike some here.

Just saying.

 

[Bass Elder]

What the hell...have you been hitting the sauce?

Have the informative insightful post of BringBackRoyal and Scholz rubbed ya the wrong way? Perhaps you should spend more time on Christian Chat or a sooner board thus your feelings will be spared vs. a Longhorn site.

 

[outhereincali]

Just wanted to give you a shout out for the civil and decent manner in which you post here. Based on my recent thread viewings, that seems to make you an exception to the general rule on OB. You are a rare commodity regarding the reasonable way in which you respond to others/visitors. I thank you for your good character. There are many others too that post similarly.

I'm not trying to get banned here but the qualities I attribute to you above do not appear to be embraced and encouraged by board leadership. That's not to say my opinion is accurate in this situation. There is a great deal of foul/impudent language in a rival's postings such as the Mayfield workout thread that is at the very least - through their indifference and inaction - seemingly condoned by the mod(s). And, it is not just in that thread. It seems fairly pervasive from what I read. Guess there are no board rules that addresses such ill demeanor.

Not that Orangebloods has to be similar to the Scoop but the Scoop has shown the door to those who interact with the incivility that is routinely displayed here. They have a much superior product now for regulars and visitors, imho.

I know, I know. As a visitor, I don't have to read or post here. That would normally be the refrain for my perceived insolence. After all, it's so easy to dismiss an outsider and their expressions.

Don't know what the general purpose - present and future - is for this site. As for me, I enjoy the reasonable and civil expressions of ALL who post. I prefer to give value to responsible, respectful and well-articulated perspectives. Guess that would apparently make me an oddity here.

Again, kudos to you outhereincali for your restraint, real and positive postings. You and others encourage responsible discourse unlike some here.

Just saying.

I appreciate the compliment, kinda wish it were true

But you haven't read what I have to say about aggies

There's also been a sooner troll I think it was baking water who I dissed all the time.

I will say this for the sooners. Like Texas they've been there done that.

Beating Oklahoma is 365 days of smiles. Losing is 365 days of would have, could have, should have.

 

[fortworth4ou2]

What the hell...have you been hitting the sauce?

Have the informative insightful post of BringBackRoyal and Scholz rubbed ya the wrong way? Perhaps you should spend more time on Christian Chat or a sooner board thus your feelings will be spared vs. a Longhorn site.

No.

I'm a fan of reasonable discourse without the abusive attachment. Neanderthals act in such inarticulate and brutish ways, not the civilized adults who desire the mature giving and receiving of respect generally associated with the responsible expression of considerate views.

Some feel that shouting louder and crudely makes for a winning position. Such foolish, childish and demeaning behaviors should've been left on the Kindergarten playgrounds as we evolved.

Most forums I've visited have definitive rules for these types of bellicose antics. Apparently OB is one of those that does not. Or it does and those antiquated demeanors are simply allowed to breathe and metastasize in clear contravention to the stated rules. No law enforcement.

Incivility occurs usually on the premium sites, not the free ones. At least, that's been my experience. One usually has to pay for the privilege to be ridiculously obtuse and rude.

I am a regular on the Scoop and find it usually worth the effort to venture outside the friendly confines of home. Some interesting knowledge can be acquired in this way. Ignorance does not usually consider or appreciate a different perspective.

I see where you stand on the matter. Thanks.

 

[Metcalf #2]

So, you're saying abusive behavior is not allowed on SoonerScoop? What about your football team?

 

[fortworth4ou2]

So, you're saying abusive behavior is not allowed on SoonerScoop? What about your football team?

Yes. Go see for yourself. Pick any thread. You'll discover there is iron in my words.

Unsure as to your meaning of your second question. All football teams are abusive including OU. It's the nature of the violent game. That's why players wear pads and helmets instead of dresses.

 

[HornsRuleU]

The only hint of a negative thing about outhereincali is his username. It could be "Out here in Cali" or "OU there in Cali".

Obviously, it's nothing. We all know his loyalties.

 

[fortworth4ou2]

The only hint of a negative thing about outhereincali is his username. It could be "Out here in Cali" or "OU there in Cali".

Obviously, it's nothing. We all know his loyalties.

He is a good man but not an OU loyalist as you already know.

 

[LonghornMM]

Really? You don't agree with the board's moderation and come here with all of 10 posts to be negative? No one is making you read or post here.

 

[Scholz]

A) I always love it when a fan of Wifebeater U uses words like civility and reasonableness and decency.

B) $ooners don't deserve respect, sorry.

 

[fortworth4ou2]

Really? You don't agree with the board's moderation and come here with all of 10 posts to be negative? No one is making you read or post here.

You're right about your last sentence and was pretty much what I said in the OP.

I'm not seeking banishment as I stated previously. That would be reckless and silly for my stated posting purpose. Just pointing out a need that is fairly obvious to an outsider looking in.

This is a fine board and my point is all forums can and should improve. The Scoop did by embracing civility. If that's being negative as you assert, then I guess I'm guilty.

I've been around for a long, long time here and elsewhere. I was previously fortworth4ou. Combined, I have a higher post count than you. I'm only offering that since you made it a point.

It's difficult to blame a child for their misconduct when there is no parental guidance, structure and consequences regarding those misdeeds. I'm a retired public school teacher and that point is without question. Common sense rules are worthless without enforcement.

 

[fortworth4ou2]

A) I always love it when a fan of Wifebeater U uses words like civility and reasonableness and decency.

B) $ooners don't deserve respect, sorry.

I hope you have a change of heart. You're too much an intellect to stay the course that you espouse above. If not, I still wish you the best.

My point, btw, was not about OU or UT. It was about posting civility. That has little to nothing to do with our football teams. I don't officially represent OU so I'm not involved directly in their decision making processes. I just support them and give them my patronage. I bet you do similarly for UT.

 

[LonghornMM]

It's difficult to blame a child for their misconduct when there is no parental guidance, structure and consequences regarding those misdeeds. Common sense rules are worthless without enforcement.

So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that their is no "guidance" or "enforcement" of rules on here?

 

[fortworth4ou2]

So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that their is no "guidance" or "enforcement" of rules on here?

No, I'm not really stating that as an absolute. It is merely supposition on my part with my previously expressed caveat that my opinion on the matter may not be accurate.

I was also asking whether or not this forum has rules against unwarranted abusive conduct towards visitors.

 

[swVAHorn]

No, I'm not really stating that as an absolute. It is merely supposition on my part with my previously expressed caveat that my opinion on the matter may not be accurate.

I was also asking whether or not this forum has rules against unwarranted abusive conduct towards visitors.

Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you. Quit trying so hard sooner....you are educated above your intelligence.

 

[Metcalf #2]

Yes. Go see for yourself. Pick any thread. You'll discover there is iron in my words.

Unsure as to your meaning of your second question. All football teams are abusive including OU. It's the nature of the violent game. That's why players wear pads and helmets instead of dresses.

Well, I didn't think I'd have to spell it out for you, but I'm talking about abusive as in caving a girl's face in. Maybe you should be emailing Stoops with your virtue's instead of posting here.

 

[Switzerownsroyal]

A) I always love it when a fan of Wifebeater U uses words like civility and reasonableness and decency.

B) $ooners don't deserve respect, sorry.

You should go cry some more. We'll keep winning while you fight for bowl eligibility and have Charlie core values. Waaaaaaah. Go trump!!

 

[Switzerownsroyal]

Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you. Quit trying so hard sooner....you are educated above your intelligence.

Enjoying the long off Season in football. How does it feel?

 

[fortworth4ou2]

Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you. Quit trying so hard sooner....you are educated above your intelligence.

Perseverance is a virtue. Very little of significance would ever be accomplished without it.

Regarding my intelligence, you might be right. For the record, I've never stated that I am intelligent. But, you've piqued my curiosity. If you don't mind and you are able, what have I posted that has you doubting my intellect? I ask because I am always interested in learning especially in regards to myself.

Btw, have I done anything that would warrant an exit as your first sentence suggests? I know I am a Sooner but I hope that fact doesn't distort your response.

 

[fortworth4ou2]

Well, I didn't think I'd have to spell it out for you, but I'm talking about abusive as in caving a girl's face in. Maybe you should be emailing Stoops with your virtue's instead of posting here.

Well, you could've been a wee bit more specific in your original post. But, if you think distasteful acts are only committed by those above the age of 21, you might venture away from OB on occasion to expand your horizons. Just a suggestion.

And, glass houses. Unless, of course, you are convinced hypocrisy is noble and virtuous.

Why do you seem to have an issue with virtues? Are you implying they have little or no value? Or, are virtues relevant only to OB? Just curious.

If I am abusing my posting privileges, I have no doubt MM will inform me as to the specific rule violation. To date, I have broken no rules and this is a free board. If you don't like what I post, offer me an unbiased critique so I can improve. That, imho, would be virtuous.

 

[Scholz]

We'll keep coddling wife beaters while you...have Charlie core values.

Fixed.

 

[Scholz]

That, imho, would be virtuous.

A $ooner talking about virtue is like a politician talking about honesty or a porn star talking about chastity.

 

[fortworth4ou2]

A $ooner talking about virtue is like a politician talking about honesty or a porn star talking about chastity.

Really?

Your above seems posted with all the candor of a biased, seasoned and seedy politician. But, you're not a politician. Maybe, I'm wrong in my assessment and, if I am, my apologies.

Your post appears rather insensitive, harsh, hateful, petty, dismissive and prejudicial. Seems so black and white without an option for personal change. Would make a narcissistic politician - who has much to gain or lose - proud. As always, I could be errant in my initial analysis. Again, if so, my apologies. Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.

You are smarter - much smarter - than that, imho.

I've read on here where you are a Liberal both in your thinking and political allegiance. You know, the espoused and self-proclaimed group of true inclusion and purity. Am I wrong in what I read?

Is your above post truly reflective of your rational reasoning abilities? Or, has life dumped on you and you function by disrespecting others because you believe they don't possess redemptive qualities? I sure hope not.

 

[Scholz]

I don't coddle those who condone violence against women, sorry. In addition to all other manner of cheating and criminality $ooners have found acceptable over the past half century. The ou fanbase and football program and university get zero respect from me.

 

[fortworth4ou2]

I don't coddle those who condone violence against women, sorry. In addition to all other manner of cheating and criminality $ooners have found acceptable over the past half century. The ou fanbase and football program and university get zero respect from me.

I don't coddle and condone those behaviors either. So, we've found room for mutual agreement.

But, do you really and truly believe violence, criminality and cheating is CONDONED and CODDLED by Stoops, OU's current administration or, for that matter, any current college athletic department when sanctions applied to such conduct are extremely harsh and incredibly detrimental? Or, do you simply prefer to dwell always in the distant past? Such rationale tends to lead to hateful behaviors based on what I've been taught.

And, what does the fan base reasonably have to do with the manner in which a program conducts its affairs? Fan bases come and go with time and ever changing bases support the recent and current product in perpetuity. And, why would any rational thinking person disrespect any fan base and hold them accountable for a program's past indiscretions - perceived or otherwise? Guilt by association? Are you that rigid and fatalistic in your thought processes?

I know you are smarter than to think that way. Tell me if I'm wrong with this post.

If evidence exists of such conduct at UT would you believe similarly towards your fan base and athletic department? Or, does your seemingly unrealistic bias lead you by the nose? Surely one would tend to believe that a free and responsible thinker would not be so apparently shallow and blind in their reasoning.

What you identify as a personal abhorrence, you seem to equally identify them as a positive. Confusing to say the least. I would imagine that those are behaviors of a truly narcissistic politician especially when a nefarious purpose/agenda is pursued. They don't even attempt to hide their real agenda. They simply have been proven that there are those actually stupid enough to believe in their self-serving lies. That wouldn't be you now, would it?

And, you profess to be a liberal? If that is the mindset of a liberal, I want no part of that.

 

[swVAHorn]

If this sooner were to talk the same way he writes on a message board (honestly to look intelligent no doubt) then other sooners would smack him in the mouth....they wouldn't know what the hell he was saying.

This is not an english paper. Most people just write like they talk on a message board. Who the hell would say to someone face to face "What you identify as a personal abhorrence, you seem to equally identify them as a positive."?? Look even ivy leaguers trying to be superior to everyone else do not talk like that....especially on a sports message board!

Trying too hard man. As far as him thinking the sooner coaches and football program are virtuous......hahahahahahahahahaha Sure they are. If they are then I have more money than Bill Gates.

 

[Scholz]

I don't coddle and condone those behaviors either.

You raise a finger when 4 recent wife beaters were on your football team (DGB, Shannon, Mixon and Chaisson)? Cancel your season tickets? Stop buying $ooner gear? Letter to the editor? Anything? If so, I stand corrected. I highly doubt it though. I'm betting it was business as usual with you just like the rest of your fanbase. As long as there are Ws, who cares about innocent girls being abused. Boys will be boys, amirite?

But, do you really and truly believe violence, criminality and cheating is CONDONED and CODDLED by Stoops, OU's current administration...?

Yes. And your disgusting and moronic fanbase as well. And it's not the distant past. Cheating and criminality have been rampant in your program since Truman.

And not sure what my politics has to do with the low character of $ooner fans, coaches and administrators other than you wanting to attack me. Makes no sense.

 

[Scholz]

Still waiting for that video of Joe Mixon breaking that girl's face to surface btw. But it won't. Know why? Because the judge, DA's office and PD in that case (not to mention the restaurant owner) have done their best to hide it from the public. Because football.

Disgusting.

 

[oldschoolcat]

This thread has potential......

 

[Belldozer1]

You raise a finger when 4 recent wife beaters were on your football team (DGB, Shannon, Mixon and Chaisson)? Cancel your season tickets? Stop buying $ooner gear? Letter to the editor? Anything? If so, I stand corrected. I highly doubt it though. I'm betting it was business as usual with you just like the rest of your fanbase. As long as there are Ws, who cares about innocent girls being abused. Boys will be boys, amirite?


Yes. And your disgusting and moronic fanbase as well. And it's not the distant past. Cheating and criminality have been rampant in your program since Truman.

And not sure what my politics has to do with the low character of $ooner fans, coaches and administrators other than you wanting to attack me. Makes no sense.

Scholz you should not feel ashamed of your political affiliations. Fortworth4ou2 is correct the fan base really has no say in decisions made by a coaching staff.