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Players skipping bowl games

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Do the NFL declared players who quit their college team by deciding to skip the bowl games, still get their remaining scholarship benefits, especially like during the Spring semester?
 
I wish they’d play, but don5 have a real problem when they don’t. The coaches that get fired or leave for other jobs 99% of the time don’t coach the bowl games... These games are pretty meaningless especially for the big programs. The administration has known it for years. The players are just figuring it out.
 
They are meaningful to the Networks first and foremost. If you want to make bowls meaningful, cut the number of them in half.
 
They are meaningful to the Networks first and foremost. If you want to make bowls meaningful, cut the number of them in half.
Right. The only reason sevreal of the early ones are still around is because ESPN bought them for content purposes.
 
Do the NFL declared players who quit their college team by deciding to skip the bowl games, still get their remaining scholarship benefits, especially like during the Spring semester?
If you think players that declare for the draft in april/may are still waking up and going to class everyday................ you're right. Only, they aren't going to "school" classes, they are going to training classes.

If you're a for sure first rounder, you're probably flying to IMG or LA or some top shelf training facility in the mountains or in arizona. Your agent picks up the tab and you reimburse him with your rookie contract.

There's millions and millions of dollars at stake.
 
Yep. It’s just like the one and done basketball guys. They go to class for like a month in the spring semester.
 
This really pisses me off when players put themselves first by skipping a bowl game. If they do this, yes, they should absolutely lose their scholarship benefits.
This, plus the athletes are here for my enjoyment. They’re starting to screw up the one sporting event I still watch. Well, I guess I’ll go back to watching wrasslin’
 
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I wish they’d play, but don5 have a real problem when they don’t. The coaches that get fired or leave for other jobs 99% of the time don’t coach the bowl games... These games are pretty meaningless especially for the big programs. The administration has known it for years. The players are just figuring it out.

Difference is coaches don’t use the school for Pro day, medical attention, coaching after they leave or get fired. These athletes still use the school to help them get the next level even though they decided to not play.
 
Difference is coaches don’t use the school for Pro day, medical attention, coaching after they leave or get fired. These athletes still use the school to help them get the next level even though they decided to not play.
They don’t “use” the school. The school chooses to host pro days. Nothing saying they have to and nothing saying they have to allow players who skip bowl games to participate. Let’s be honest if anyone is getting “used” in this arrangement it isn’t the players.
 
Difference is coaches don’t use the school for Pro day, medical attention, coaching after they leave or get fired. These athletes still use the school to help them get the next level even though they decided to not play.
Pro days are good for all the players.
 
They don’t “use” the school. The school chooses to host pro days. Nothing saying they have to and nothing saying they have to allow players who skip bowl games to participate. Let’s be honest if anyone is getting “used” in this arrangement it isn’t the players.

I guess my point was mainly that when a coach leaves it's a done deal. When an athlete decides to leave the facilities and all the things that allowed that athlete to succeed are still available but yet that athlete didn't want to finish out his career in a bowl game with his teammates or for the school. Just my 2 cents.
 
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The Texas players that have announced they are skipping the bowl game are gone. Williams and Elliott, are prepping for the draft.

CWIII is transferring.
 
Is it going to make you guys feel better if they don't have access to the gym anymore?
 
Guess if it's a non BCS bowl game, it can be a win-win situation. NFL bounders are making a career move. Also, hopefully, a new younger player will have a great bowl game and will help put a giddy up into the upcoming season.
 
Is it going to make you guys feel better if they don't have access to the gym anymore?

No I'd actually feel better just finishing out their commitment to the team and school. I guess if the school doesn't mind which they don't then we shouldn't either.
 
No I'd actually feel better just finishing out their commitment to the team and school. I guess if the school doesn't mind which they don't then we shouldn't either.
I guess my point to that is why is it only the player that has to finish out their commitment? Why do the coaches not have to finish out their commitment? Hell Jimbo Fisher didn’t even finish the regular season. Jeff Traylor was supposed to coach the bowl game at SMU, but he didn’t get the full time gig and bounced.

I just don’t see why players get blasted for looking out for their futures when literarily everyone around them is doing the same exact thing.
 
I guess my point to that is why is it only the player that has to finish out their commitment? Why do the coaches not have to finish out their commitment? Hell Jimbo Fisher didn’t even finish the regular season. Jeff Traylor was supposed to coach the bowl game at SMU, but he didn’t get the full time gig and bounced.

I just don’t see why players get blasted for looking out for their futures when literarily everyone around them is doing the same exact thing.

I can agree with that.

Does a head coach not have any repercussions for not following through with their contract?
 
I can agree with that.

Does a head coach not have any repercussions for not following through with their contract?
Well every coach or at least most coaches have a buyout that they owe the school. Ovbiously though very few of them actually pay that out of their own pocket. Other than that I’m not aware of any actual repercussions.
 
Well every coach or at least most coaches have a buyout that they owe the school. Ovbiously though very few of them actually pay that out of their own pocket. Other than that I’m not aware of any actual repercussions.

I guess that's what I meant about repercussions. Buy out.
 
Any repercussions on coaches are outlined in their contracts. It's not up to the fans to decide how to punish them. If these players scholarships outline a loss of benefits if the bowl game is skipped then I guess that's an avenue the school should pursue. Either way it doesn't matter as these guys aren't likely using their scholarship benefits anyway.
 
I guess my point to that is why is it only the player that has to finish out their commitment? Why do the coaches not have to finish out their commitment? Hell Jimbo Fisher didn’t even finish the regular season. Jeff Traylor was supposed to coach the bowl game at SMU, but he didn’t get the full time gig and bounced.

I just don’t see why players get blasted for looking out for their futures when literarily everyone around them is doing the same exact thing.

The players sign an agreement to play football for a certain school and in return get a full scholarship. It's a free country, they can quit whenever they want, but I'm sure they lose their scholarship. If they feel like leaving for the NFL early then they are no longer on scholarship. Either way they do not have to finish their commitment if they don't want to, but they don't get the free college degree anymore. Everyone seems to forget that they are getting a free education that can support them for the rest of their lives. I'm sorry but I just can't feel sorry for the players. Worst case scenario, they get a degree with no student loans, best case they sign a NFL contract for millions. I wish I had that opportunity.
 
The players sign an agreement to play football for a certain school and in return get a full scholarship. It's a free country, they can quit whenever they want, but I'm sure they lose their scholarship. If they feel like leaving for the NFL early then they are no longer on scholarship. Either way they do not have to finish their commitment if they don't want to, but they don't get the free college degree anymore. Everyone seems to forget that they are getting a free education that can support them for the rest of their lives. I'm sorry but I just can't feel sorry for the players. Worst case scenario, they get a degree with no student loans, best case they sign a NFL contract for millions. I wish I had that opportunity.
No one is asking you to feel sorry for the players. We are talking about weather it is ok for them to skip bowl games or not. If coaches can jump ship before the bowl game or in Jimbo’s case before the regular season I don’t see why players can’t look out for their own best interest.

The free college education isn’t really a factor. For example Conner Williams has a 25 million dollar contract waiting for him. He isn’t worried about $50:000 in tution if he decides to go back.
 
No one is asking you to feel sorry for the players. We are talking about weather it is ok for them to skip bowl games or not. If coaches can jump ship before the bowl game or in Jimbo’s case before the regular season I don’t see why players can’t look out for their own best interest.

The free college education isn’t really a factor. For example Conner Williams has a 25 million dollar contract waiting for him. He isn’t worried about $50:000 in tution if he decides to go back.

Players can jump ship whenever they want and they do look out for their own best interest. I'm not understanding your argument.
 
Players can jump ship whenever they want and they do look out for their own best interest. I'm not understanding your argument.
My argument was to those who have issue with players skipping bowl games. If coaches, asst coaches and administrators can look out for themselves not sure why players can’t do the same thing. I’d prefer guys play, but can’t blame them for not. A lot of money on the line for a lot of them.
 
My argument was to those who have issue with players skipping bowl games. If coaches, asst coaches and administrators can look out for themselves not sure why players can’t do the same thing. I’d prefer guys play, but can’t blame them for not. A lot of money on the line for a lot of them.

But what about the fans best interests, no one cares about the fans. We're the ones having to watch this crap and spend our money on tickets. What about us man! I'm 90% kidding, but still.
 
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